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I don't think that's the case. The whole story is centered around Arceus and the meteor. There are hundreds of pieces of dialogue that contradict this, like the ones In the library, the texts in the sanctum and the conversation in the void. Narratively, it would not make sense, and would be kind of a letdown. It would not be a plot-twist, just a big shame if they drove the storyline like that
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See, I do disagree with your theory even though I think it is extremely well thought out and here is why. If Arceus is the god pokemon, I don't think it is something that would truly be evil. Lin (at least in the adult form we know her as) is truly evil. Forcing friends to fight and torturing (not just killing or trapping to get rid of those in her way) but truly torturing is evil. Additionally, she cares nothing for loyalty or family, only "unbridled power". My personal take, is that perhaps the Lin we see as an adult is Giratina and Child Lin is somehow with Arceus. Perhaps Giratina took this form or is making a projection of Lin to Spite the god that condemned him. Idk it just doesnt seem like the current Adult Lin's traits would fall in line with the ideals of the Creator pokemon.
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Okay, so I have a theory about Lin and why she seems to be such a powerful figure and it all boils down to this that the Lin we see is just a projection. You see what I think that the real Lin is just a child who's in the Citae Arc-d'Astrae Aerie the place where you battle El along with Arceus. My proof is that we know from Laura that Lin was at some point an orphan at Dr. Sigmund's Orphanage. Sigmund must have done something really bad to Lin otherwise she would've stayed at the orphanage. My theory is that Arceus rescued her some proof to back this up is a journal you can find in the Glitch World in Cinnabar Mansion where it says "hee hee this is fun, I can see everything from up here and I can make everybody play with me it's all thanks to baby Arceus I'm going to make sure to repay him by setting him free then we can all live in the new world together and have lots of fun forever." Think back to how old Laura says Lin is younger than Anna so it only makes sense that she would say something like that. It would also certainly explain why when you exit the Citae Arc-d'Astrae Aerie someone says "Hee hee hee. This is fun... Hey...Everybody... Come back and play again sometime, okay? Let's keep playing together for a long time... Isn't that right? Hehehe...." this sounds a lot like what's in that journal the whole playing together connects the two of them and this is probably the girl form of Lin watching you. Also just wanted to point this out but. Lin and Terra seem to be good friend which is why the journal can be found in the Glitch World Terra creates This also explains why as soon as Lin joined Team Meteor their motive started to change when Lin became the boss. Think of what Eclipse said before she died that Team Meteor's goal was to purify the city under Solaris, but she dies before getting to tell us how their motives changed but it's pretty obvious at this point that Lin the head of Team Meteor is trying to collect the 4 keys and free Arceus and why she would change their motives. This would also explain how Lin seems to be immortal as she isn't real or she is real but Arceus is protecting her which explains how she's able to survive being stabbed by Titania. Or how her Hydreigon is so strong, or why she can create something from nothing, or how she can pull beings from the void and manipulate them,or why Anna can't see her because the Lin we see doesn't really exist it's just a projection from Arceus and Arceus is empowering the projection to help Team Meteor. This is all going to play out in the end when I think you find this out as Team Meteor gets all four keys and then you have to battle Lin or the little girl who Lin really is and that's somehow going to kill her either because the projection gets destroyed or Arceus no longer needs it so it just breaks the projection's body. I'm not really to sure what will happen after that if this is really the case though but that's how I think we'll find out if this theory is true or not or I don't know Amethyst could just tell us right now that everything I said isn't true and that I'm connecting dots that don't exist or when she finally releases Episode 19 this could all just be disproved. But I'd like to hear what you think about this theory and I'm really forgetful so I probably forgot some evidence so if you have any more that I didn't mention please tell me. Also if you disagree then tell me why but I'm sticking with this theory no matter what anybody says even Amethyst because the only way she could change my beliefs are if she revealed to us the truth and I don't think that's going to happen soon so just please give me feedback because I tried to find as many clues as I could and watched so many people play this game over and over again.
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Hey Everyone, now I dont think this at all to be the case but thought it would be a neat twist. What if the Meteor, the one they say brought Arceus and that Reborn is built above, was not actually a meteor bringing Arceus, but instead it was Deoxys. Perhaps Arceus sealed the Deoxys away to prevent it from destroying the world it had created and thats why people thought Arceus had a tie there. Lin is actually a puppet animated by Deoxys psychic power which explains her unnatural abilities.
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Very unlikely because Radomus' wife (woman who tells the shooting star story) is in the void and so is gardevoir but in a different place, so it is implied that they are 2 separate beings.
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What if gardevoir is radomus' wife after she died. First of all, Radomus explained to Anna that her mother was somebody who pulled him away and knew everything about him. This could correlate to the fact that Gardevoir is obsessed with radomus. Secondly, Nostra, Anna's doll who told her everything that was also given by there mother. It's not to farfetched to say that the person communicating with Anna is Gardevoir. Finally. Gardevoir wanted to marry Radomus. Aaaaaaaand well... you know. Also. Gardevoir said she was sent by his wife to take care of him. This maybe far fetched but what if thathe was a lie.
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@IBW_3000 Euphie is the "taciturn woman in a black and red suit" that is mentioned in the prophecy. I'm not sure how the pictures will show up when I post this, but Euphie is the one with the dark hair. The one with purple hair is Radomus's late wife, Zina Vanhanen. You can find her tombstone in Beryl cemetery, although it should be noted that she only went missing and was never confirmed dead, but it's been years since anyone's seen her.
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Oh well. Can't be right every time. I originally assumed Euphie was Radomus' wife, but this definitely changes things for me. And yes, the Sprite pictures would be appreciated please.
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I see your connections, but Shade is pretty much confirmed as a girl that was somehow transported from the previous timeline to the current one. I believe her name was Euphie. You see this in the Void when you pass through a section and Shade appears briefly, followed by a girl in a black and red suit. I can post the sprite pictures if you want.
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I have a theory regarding shade. It's a bit out there, but I believe he is Giratina in Disguise. Even though Giratina has only ever been mentioned once in the whole game in Coral Ward, the two do share heavy similarities. Shade's actions and way of speaking are that of a nigh-omniscient entity, he has powers connected to shadows, he's a shadowy figure, and his eyes and mouth remind me of Giratina. There's also the fact that he barely intervenes, and when he does, his actions leave a big impact on the story. He saves you from the train crash, he directly progresses the plot after you beat him, he warns you about making the right decision in the waterworks, and he brings you out of the black hole. All of those actions coincide with Giratina's official canon role in the world, that being to correct any mistake that would, is, or has happened. The fact Giratina is mentioned at all in Reborn, since they have no official prominent role in the story, is also something to consider. No other character shares similarities with Giratina. Shade is also the ghost-type gym leader, and Giratina is dragon/ghost. There's also Shade's story. It could be that Shade deliberately humiliated that trainer so as to teach them a lesson, only losing to them on purpose when they changed, further supported by how easy shade's battle actually is. As to why he was so interested in a no-account trainer that was only mentioned once, and the ramifications that would happen if Shade did not stop them, that is beyond me. There's not much else I can think of, but you guys are more than welcome to add your own thoughts. Also, this is my first theory so feedback is appreciated. Lastly, shout out to uberle for making his/her own theory on shade:
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Hey everyone. I'd like to discuss what my theories for the Gold and Ivory Keys are in Reborn. Mostly to get it out of my head, but also to debate it with you all. So, without further ado: My theory for the Golden Key is that it is you, the player. It's been pretty much all but confirmed through dialogue with other characters, such as Anna saying that you're "glowy" or that "your light shines brighter in the darkness", and Bennett straight up calling you the "golden child". You also fit nicely within the motifs of what gold has symbolized throughout history, most notably courage, nobility, and incorruptibility. Strength and wisdom are some runner-ups. Now for the Ivory Key. This one is harder to pin down for a few reasons. Like the first, I do not think that this is a physical key, rather a person (or Pokemon) that incarnates as or mantles the archetype. So where the Golden Key is someone who is pure (uncorrupt) of heart, strong, wise, and noble, the Ivory Key would likewise be someone who displays the motifs of Ivory. A quick Google search nets "purity" and "innocence" as the two most common things that Ivory can represent. (A quick note: "purity" in relation to gold is a description of how all other elements separate from gold ore when it is melted down, hence it being incorruptible or a "noble metal". "Purity" in relation to Ivory is more akin to chastity or child-like innocence.) Now for the hard part: it's been established that all of the Keys have an effect on whoever they come into contact with (you can look up the individual key's effects on different people in other threads), so suffice it to say that whoever the Ivory Key is would display the traits mentioned above. The problem is while all five other keys have *confirmed* owners, no one in the story has been identified as being particularly innocent or pure so far. This leads me to the speculation section. There are only two serious contenders for this spot as of now in my mind: Lin and Arceus. I know what you're thinking: "What?! Lin?!?!". I have some misgivings about her, too, but several things pointed me in that direction. Firstly, she is described by everyone that remembers her as a child, which fits with the whole "child-like innocence" thing, if we're going to stereotype children. Which I am, for now. The second thing is how the adult Lin seems to be crying out for help when you meet her in the Void. As you know, the Void shows events as they truly happened, not just what was perceived. When you talk to Lin, she start her usual "you thought you were strong" speech, but then it devolves into her emphatically stating that "no one ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever helps". I've always read that final part as her begging someone to stand beside her in a fight against something. Some other things that add onto this is how she never harms you or wants you harmed (like she's aware of you status as a Key), and how she tells Titania that the two of you are actually working together. The other event of note is how the voice in the Citae (believed to be the child Lin) asks you in the Void if you "even know who your real ally is". This is further elaborated on by the dream Hardy has while he is asleep in the elevator during the raid on the Glass Workstation. I can't find a quote anywhere, but he basically says that he dreamt that he and you (the player) were in a room or cave facing down a powerful Dragon-type Eevee king. All of your mutual friends were there with you, too, along with a "doppelganger" Eevee king that wanted your help killing or stopping the other one. The first thing I took from this is that the adult and child Lin eventually fight each other, and one of them will want the help of you and your friends. (Side note, again. The reason I believe this is because Lin was the Dragon-type specialist back in the Online League days). I suspect the adult Lin is the one that will want your help for several reasons. Firstly, the "doppelganger" bit. In order for something to be a doppelganger, the original must first exist. My point is that the child Lin existed before the adult Lin (as far as we know), so the adult version is the one needing help. (Remember "no one ever ever ever ever ever ever ever helps" ?) The other reason is simply because the child Lin has implied several times that she is at a power level basically just shy of omnipotence, so I don't think she needs any kind of help with anything. The problem with this whole "Lin is innocent" theory is that it requires an extremely loose definition of innocence and purity; the adult Lin is a sadistic murderer, and the child Lin is always described as nothing less than a budding sociopath. The only way I can see this working out is that the adult Lin is under some kind of control by the child Lin, and wants to, or will, break free. Once she does, she'll request you and your friend's help in stopping the child version of her from doing whatever it is she wants to do. I think that much is certain; the two Lins will go head to head at some point, with the all powerful adult Lin losing (remember Shade's gym?). Watching the big bad go down without putting up much of a fight would definitely set the stakes as to how powerful this god-child Lin is. Lastly, we have Arceus. There is not as much to go off of here, but it's cleaner information. Firstly Arceus is described in numerous books as being "the ivory beast". If that isn't a reference to ivory, I don't know what is. The other interesting piece of info is how Arceus is described as a baby in the journal in Terra's digital world. I don't know about you, but I don't have much of an issue appling the terms "innocent" and "pure" to a baby version of an ivory beast that radiates light. As you can see, Arceus fits the bill of the Ivory Key much nicer than Lin, or anyone else for that matter. I am not sure what the implications of this could be, though; the religious texts are not clear or consistent. Some speak of six keys being used for something, some speak of only four. However, I've noticed that when only the four keys are being referenced, it's talking about what is required to open the doors that surrounding the impact crater, and one book talking about "four pillars of light" that bind this world to another realm just like it. But when all six keys are mentioned, it talks about a great darkness that was sealed away using the power of them all. I am unsure what this darkness could be (I don't think it's Giratina, but we can discuss that later), but it seems that in order to fight it, it takes the four keys, plus the two incarnated heroes. There is so much more that I could try to add into this post such as why Lin wants all of the keys in the hands of their rightful owners (the Elite Four), or the multitude of times that the radio signal or static motif is used in the game (it's even on the development scoreboard, for crying out loud!), but we'll stop here for now. Let me know what you think. Feel free to ask for clarification or chime in if you think I missed something; there is still much we do not know.
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The owners of each key does generally follow the seal's attribute not necessarily appearance. So they would follow what each seal stands for (eg Amethyst being the seal of the beyond so fits Anna perfectly). Also the Key's owners ended up being members of the E4 but this was by coincidence. Heather/Corey - She is the owner of the Ruby ring (the seal of pain). Heather has gone through a lot of suffering in her life with the loss of her mother during childbirth, her father's restrictions on her life based upon trying to protect her which only stifles her. Also with the loss of her father to suicide. This ring was originally bought by Corey as an engagement ring for his wife back in the times when he was a happy guy with his loving partner. As he says before he commits suicide, Heather and the ring were the only things keeping him going and he committed suicide as he felt unneeded after they both were gone. Laura/Amaria - For Laura, she was the original and final owner of the Sapphire bracelets (the seal of love). In her case it would probably be her love towards nature and her sisters. Also how much she cares for her friends. I could also extend this to what seems to be a budding romance between her and Bennett by what they say in E18 and I believe they dated at some point during the online league. Laura's parents initially bought the bracelets as it reminded them of their eldest daughter (Sapphira). Laura. would have been distraught at when they were lost in the fire and found by Titania. In Amaria's case, it makes sense that she was not the original owner. Her love for Titania was built upon a lot of falsehoods and whilst she may have loved her, that love was extremely destructive as really evident within the Reshiram route. Radomus/Anna/Zina - These two both have an attribute that allows them both to be prime candidates for the Amethyst Pendant (The seal of the beyond), the fact that they both have some element of power that allows them to see through the facade of people and to see some elements of the future (the methods for Zina is unknown but Anna can through Nostra). Radomus to an extent says this when he says that Zina was the only woman to have seen him for what he is. Anna obviously also manages to see through him in the Glass Workshop too. Radomus initially received the jewellery pieces after stealing them from Meteor and sold some of the other pieces to hide their whereabouts (this being the method he made his fortune). He kept the pendant for himself to give to his wife and then passed it on to his daughter when his wife died. He then put his children into Sigmund's orphanage in order to protect anyone who would hunt for the jewellery. He could be a candidate for the pendant for his ability to foresee what others may do (due to his chesslike thinking).Miss Direction could potentially be another candidate for the Amethyst pendant due to her foreseeing powers but she's not one of the main cast so. Sirius/El/Luna - Within the jewellery room in Agate city, there's a diary that points to Sirius being the creator of the jewellery that holds the keys. Like Corey, Sirius was once someone who was naive but had this illusion ripped away from him which turned him into the sadist he is today. This change also symbolises his loss of faith in people, this is ironic because he also loses the Emerald brooch (the symbol of faith) via El potentially stealing it from him. El is another candidate for the emerald brooch because of his faith to Arceus (probably due to its power). As we all know, El was initially blind until Arceus' power restored his sight and has since tried to communicate with Arceus again. However, El also has the Emerald Brooch taken from him by Luna. In Luna's case, I believe her faith is faith to her family. However, this isn't to her blood family but rather her Adoptive family (Claiming Radomus as her father and Serra as her mother). You would initially think Luna as a candidate for the Amethyst pendant due to her otherworldly nature and knowledge of the void. However, this wouldn't be the case as she cannot predict the beyond like Anna and Zina can. I want to talk about your candidate choices for the Emerald Brooch being Lin, Fern and Florinia. Lin - Even in this penultimate episode, we do not know too much about Lin and her motives. She seems to tolerate the MC meddling in her plans with ease compared to other people who have. I guess you could say she has faith that her plan will succeed but I don't think she would qualify for the key. Fern - He doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in people and seems to constantly berate them if things don't go his way. Fern is someone who is very lost at the minute to the point of falling in with the Meteor ranks. He would not qualify for the key. Florinia - Once she may have had faith in people, perhaps she still does. However, she has had to suppress this along with her emotions in order to protect herself. She does seem to have faith that she can deal with her brother but it's not the sort of faith that the key would symbolise.
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So I'm not sure if this has been brought up at all on this forum, buuuuuttttttttt I'm gonna talk about it because frankly, I've thought about it for a long while, since e16 I think? Well anyways, one thing I noticed was the owners of the keys matched- color wise- with their respective key. Anna has purple as her general color and carries the amethyst pendant. Heather owns the ruby ring, and while she isn't red, pink is a tint of red, so technically she fits the bill. Plus in her battle Sprite, her hair looks more reddish? Not sure about why that is. Now, for the sapphire bracelet, while the original owners ARE Saphira, Charlotte, and Laura; but seeing as how they wounded up loosing it in a fire, only for Titania to give it to Amaria, I think Amaria is the 'Official Owner'. The color scheme says all basically, but it does bring up an interesting idea: that there's some outer force in the game that already chosen the keys "protectors", which could explain the color coding as well. But there's one that threw me off, and that's the emerald brooch. What we do know of the brooch is that it came into El's possession by Solaris, and gave him his sight back somehow, and Luna made off with the brooch and claimed Randomus and Sierra as her parents.(E18 potential spoilers under cut) With the above said, El isn't the brooch's "Owner". Luna is a maybe, but not very likely. But listen: After Obtaining the Brooch, El gets practically mania and becomes extremely religious, to the point of being a sacrificial cult leader. He's obessive. After running from El, denouncing him as her father, and stealing the Brooch, Luna claims Sierra and Randomus and her parents, and her family values, especially in the latest episode, are very much highlighted upon, as if family is her top priority. A trend with this brooch is a strange obessive quality comes to the people who own it. So here's what I think: To know who the real "Owner" of the brooch is, they should/most likely possess these qualities: -color pallet consisting of greens mostly -obsessive over something (it's past two owners obsessions have something to do with two, incuding the owner, or more people involved with some sort of "togetherness/organization"; a common ground in a way.) Annnnddd we are down to three candidates. Lin, Florina, and Fern. Now, the color thing is self explanatory, so let's talk about the obsessions side of the deal, starting with Fern. Fern isn't likely, but more likely in my eyes than Florina, but he does kinda have some lead way I guess, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt. Fern is obsessed with kicking your ass from the get-go it seems. Honestly he's just obsessed with you in general. After no show for a long ass time, he comes back from nowhere to fight you in route 1, then later JOINS TEAM METEOR JUST TO SPITE YOU FURTHER. This kid is the definition of petty. The only issue with this criteria, but also could be a standing point for it, is that there's no "organization" or togetherness between Fern and the player. How this could be a standing point is that we aren't sure if the brooch will affect the "Owner's" differently compared to those who had it beforehand. It could very well be that the true owner will rupture a disconnect with organizations and/or togetherness between others or themselves. Also the alternative timeline thing that the Beryl ward witch lady brings up. In a word where you don't exist, Fern is the one to take up arms, and that's your togetherness. You both are different sides of the same coin. Florina doesn't have much going on in her case. I could argue that she's obsessive with being emotionally cold and/or finding her brother, but it's not as pressing or as notable as Ferns rivalry with you and Lin's obsession with power. That's why I don't think she's a likely canidate. Now Lin. Lin is probably the most likely option of the trio. It's only in reborn's style to make the evil OP lady also be the true owner of the brooch. And not to mention her obsession with power. Like I said with Fern, maybe the brooch affect the true owner differently, by making then against the idea of togetherness, like Lin. She's the epitome of rugged individualism and teases those who rely on each other. Also the brooch has shown to have some sort of magical properties to it, seeing as how El can see now, and he wasn't even the true owner. If it was in the hands of the true owner at any given point, I'd imagine it's properties would increase dramatically, to the point where, oh I don't know, you can make things out of nothing? Sorry if you couldn't follow along at all, it's 1 am and I'm all over the place mentally and I'm also very tired.
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This is probably it I'm curious to see what happens when we finally meet her Ok so Changed the title of the topic because as I'm going through E18 Reshiram path I'm finding out some very interesting things I'll write them out here as I continue through because there is some stuff that I have missed and/or am discovering due to now being on the Reshiram path So in Zekrom you wake Anna up, and she says now isn't the time But in Reshiram You get something very different. She says this You made it! Buuuuut it's not time to wa- Wait, what? No this isn't supposed to- It wasn't supposed to be like this... The boy with the broken wing wasn't supposed to-- Wait... No, I can fix it-- We can still fix this! Um. You just do your thing don't worry about it!!! Good night! And then she doesn't talk if you use Heal Bell So We just found out in letting Taka die we just f*cked something up. That's right Not only are we living with the pain of Taka's death but turns out in doing so we might have doomed us all! Reshiram path, what the hell are you? If I find anything else I'll post here. If you guys found anything interesting feel free to share!
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All the Eevees are our pals. They usually specialize in something, like how Eeveelutions are mono-type. I'm thinking the doppleganger is the child Lin whose lines we keep hearing throughout the story, starting when we chase El down the grand staircase.
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Ok So playing through E18 again and found something interesting. So when Hardy falls asleep you can take Glaceon to him after opening the elevators and try to wake him up. Turns out he just had a very interesting dream. Yo, I just had a dream with a Glaceon... There was... A machine, and, like, an Eevee-lution King, and I don't remember how I got there, but... ... All the Glaceon were like... Tired.. ... So the Eevee King was... like... A really really big Dragon-type Eevee And you were totally there, <Player>! You like, appeared and were helping me fight it, And all the other Eevee banded together with us... I think. But then it turned out the Eevee King was the one who got us there in the first place. Like... Fighting the Eevee King was what it wanted all along And even it was fighting itself with us Like a doppelganger or... I dunno... So let's break this down Hardy's dream involves him, the player, and all the other characters represented by Eevee fighting a Dragon Eevee-lution "King" who had a machine I think it's safe to assume that the Eevee King is Lin, and the machine is her PULSE 2 Hydreigon or the ARC-PULSE. And apparently the Eevee King wanted the player to succeed which confirms a suspicion I had that Lin is just letting the player do everything for her while taking out anyone who might inconvenience her later, such as the Champion Ame. This is easy to figure out. Then there's the Doppelganger. So Lin is obviously not human The fact that she casually walked into the lake Agate is built on top of and got the power source is evidence enough. So my pitch is this. The Lin we know is a robot, or maybe an artificial human created to be as she is. Like Mewtwo. So the doppelganger could be several things. It could be whoever created Lin, or maybe a clone of some sort. Either way it's someone close to Lin and seems to bear a very strong resemblance to her. Or it could be Lin herself, we don't know. If it's the former then they will in all likelihood be there to help us in the final battle. This is yet another mystery that we will have to wait until E19 to find out. Let me know your thoughts, and remember. That's just a theory. A Reborn theory. Thanks for reading.
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NOTE:this contains a lot of black hole information¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now, we all saw the new banner on the site. The one with a Gardevoir creating a black hole. It's not a surprise, as her PokeDex entry reads: The title of episode 18 is, as we all know, "The Void", and I would not be surprised if we see a Gardevoir, either a PULSE-Gardevoir or our favourite Gossip Gardevoir creating a black hole. Before the theory, let's begin by asking: what's a black hole? By definition, a black hole is a region of spacetime, from which nothing, not even light, can escape. So, bad news if it happens. A black hole appears when massive stars collapses into itself at the end of their cycle. The result creates a supernova too, but we're not interested in it. Black Holes cannot be seen, due to the strong gravity which pulls light into the middle of the hole, thus appearing black. The boundary of a black hole beyond which nothing can escape is called an Event Horizon. The most amazing part of a black hole is the Singularity, the "heart" of a black hole. The Singularity is a one-dimension point with an huge mass in an infinitely small space, where the laws of physics stop to operate. It is speculated that black holes can be portals to another universes, a wormhole, but first you'd have to survive being stretched as thin as a spaghetti, due to the black hole's gravitational pull, and shorten back to normal. Enough about black holes physics and science. Let's return to our universe. To create a black hole, Gardevoir would have to mass subatomic particles together, as it happens when a star collapses. To do this, it's said she uses her psychokinetic powers to do so. Basically using telekinesis to mash particles together. Only there is a problem. During this process, micro black holes can appear, but disintegrate quickly, due to matter being consumed. A black hole will have just as much mass as the particles used to make it. Not a lot, mind you. Black holes lose mass due to something called Hawking Radiation. Stephen Hawking proved that black holes emit radiation, and radiation has mass. So, as a black hole emits radiation, it looses it's mass, it gets smaller. If Gardevoir could create a black hole, it would disappear in seconds, doing nothing to protect it's trainer. Maybe if it squished the moon into something microscopic, then, yeah. Only, if something like that would happen, well... Let's say Gardevoir use something as big as the moon to make a black hole. The object will be squished down until it would look like a pebble. A pebble with the weight of the moon. Remember, black holes are created my consuming mass. So the pebble black hole would still have the mass of the moon. And if it would be on the Earth, ... more bad news. The black hole would fall, as it's still affected by Earth's gravity, only it would not stop when hitting the ground. It would continue to devour and devour, reaching the center of the Earth, and begin consuming everything, growing in size as it consumes more and more mass. If you think a the black hole growing the size of the Earth is bad, ... you know the drill. As the matter is consumed by the black hole, inside it, apart from becoming part of the hole, it compresses. And when you compress matter, it heats up, creating pressure. Imagine inflating a balloon the size of the Earth. What happens of you inflate it too much? *POP* So the Earth would be destroyed before we get squashed under the infinite pressure of a black hole. Good news, I guess? So either Gardevoir creates black holes too small to do be stable, disintegrating from existince, or she creates black holes large enough to be stable, and completely destroys the Earth in the process. But at least it kills anything that would protect the Earth, so mission accomplished? This whole theory was made with the help of a video from Game Theory. Click here to watch it.
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Reborn Theory: The Jasper Ward Prophecy
uberle replied to uberle's topic in Reborn Theory's Reborn Theories
Might be. We'll probably find out what this is about in E18 as it's called "Void Kissed" -
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Pisy replied to uberle's topic in Reborn Theory's Reborn Theories
Gothitelle, in the library, says: "You will meet the void. It will embrace you. This much is inevitable. What happens after that, however... that, not even Arceus must know". Is it related? -
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Pokemon Reborn E18 Sneak Peek Theory Part 2
robin1 replied to MadHappy's topic in Reborn Theory's Reborn Theories
What if the person who said it was Lin. A popular theory is that a younger version of Lin is/was in the orphanage and is the kid who was tormenting people. What if in the timeline where the player doesn't exist Lin wasn't in the orphanage but in the Onyx Academy and the event that made Flobot non emotional happen to Lin instead and Lin become a crazy lunatic. -
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uberle replied to uberle's topic in Reborn Theory's Reborn Theories
So upon reading this theory I realize some new facts as they came to light. Mainly for this verse The sleeping star invokes a wish From there the suited girl disappears And that future follows shortly after So when everything falls apart, Arclight and Fern die, and Cal goes back to his petty rivalry with Blake But what of Anna and this lady in black who we have yet to meet? Anna makes a wish. Meaning that there's a chance that Jirachi may actually awaken soon in the game, but that's not important. What is important is Anna's wish in the other world. What could it be? Answer: A wish to reset the world and bring forth a warrior who can stop Meteor. The player. I mean, think about it. Where did we even come from? Why were we going to Reborn in the first place? And we conveniently always seem to stumble upon Meteor and not die even after multiple attempts on our lives. We are a wish made by Anna. Which could explain why we apparently glow to her. Though there are a couple other things. Jirachi grants 3 wishes. So what were the other two? I think one was to transport the "suited girl" into this new timeline, as she vanishes before the timeline does. But that still leaves one wish left. With everything going to pieces you would think that Anna would use all 3. So what's the last wish? Or was there only one in the first place? You decide. -
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DigitalAmber replied to uberle's topic in Reborn Theory's Reborn Theories
I kinda have a reborn theory that could sort of fit the prophecy. Be warned it involves time fuckery. Shining armor strikes I choose to take this as literal armor and not emotional armor. Currently we only know two characters who wear armor or anything similar to it: Titania and Lin. While this could mean that Titania takes up her Aegislash to fight,I choose to believe it means Lin due to its inclusion and Fern/Titania having a bad relationship. I included Lin in this because it says 'shining armor.' As in, 'knight in shining armor.' Who is known to be a knight at one point in time: Rylin. Alternatively known as Lin. The sleeping star invokes a wish From there the suited girl disappears This can be taken to be interpreted as Anna making a wish and then disappearing, or it can be interpreted as Anna making a wish and Lin disappearing. The first interpretation is because one can take 'suited' to mean "suited to a task", of which Anna is suited to wish granting through Jirachi. It could also mean paired. The second interpretation and the one I choose to believe is the one where Lin vanishes. Suited could mean Rylin/Lin disappears(Suit of Armor). Alternatively it could mean bodysuit, of which Lin is a girl who wears one. Why either girl vanished is unknown. Anna might have vanished because she was the wish caster, or maybe Lin vanished due to being forsaken for some reason. Perhaps because she uses a Hydreigon, which can curiously be summoned at a holy alter. Kinda like summoning a demon in a church. Arceus locked her out of salvation, which might have been what Anna wished for. What my theory could be would be that Anna wished for salvation or a second chance. As a result, the timeline was reset. Except, Lin never got reset with the timeline. Lin was teleported from the end of the original to the start of the new timeline. Her older self replaced her younger self over and over, explaining how Lin is old and yet her younger self in the orphanage existed. The player has only existed prominently in two timelines: a previous one and the current one. In a previous one, the player might have been allies with Lin, who believes you can be swayed to the dark side like in a past life. Your existence as the hero has thrown all altered events apart and made knowledge of future events completely unreliable. Also: Why did Lin enter the orphanage? Was it non existent parents, or was it the fact that she was regarded as insane due to babbling like a child about the future. She was taken in for treatment and fought back. Just a crackpot theory.