Round 2. FAITO.
Pokemon marked in Red are proposed to move up in tiers. Pokemon marked in Blue are proposed to move down in tiers.
Ubers (Pokemon banned from the OverUsed tier):
OverUsed (Pokemon banned from the Borderline tier)*:
*A note about Reborn's OU:
One of the greatest appeals of Reborn is that we do not follow Smogon tiering. Drizzle+SwiftSwim will not be banned here in the foreseeable future, and if it is (unlikely), SandStream+SandRush and Drought+Chlorophyll will go right along with it. Pokemon like Blaziken and Garchomp that have been banned by Smogon are probably not going to make it to Ubers here for the sake of preserving a (reasonably balanced) environment in which they can still be used. Shadow Tag Chandelure is another such case, but we have had an in depth discussion on it recently in which justification for its ban could not be logically resolved.
Borderline (Pokemon banned from the UnderUsed tier):
UnderUsed (Pokemon banned from the LittleUsed tier):
LittleUsed (Pokemon banned from NeverUsed tier):
NeverUsed (Pokemon not banned from any tier):
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Descriptions for all of these choices are found in the posts below, tier by tier.
Rule #1- Discussion of these Tiers should be kept off of the main server chaat.
Back channels are fine, and posting the log if something is decided might be nice- but for the most part let's try and keep tier discussion to the forum (server talk about tiers tends to turn hostile). Preferably this topic, but if a single Pokemon warrants a high amount of debate, a separate topic can be made for it.
Rule #2- ITT: Opinions
And chances are, someone does not share the same opinion as you. But we are contesting ideas, not people. Remain respectful of those ideas, and the people behind them.
The Pokemon currently listed to be un/banned are not set in stone, however, we WILL vote for them. Pokemon can be added to this list if there is a suggestion and a Second for it. As discussion goes on, I will update the below posts with any other suggested Pokemon, as well as summations of the defense for already-listed ones.
Discussion will be open for one or two weeks. If, by Monday the 23rd, there is no continued discussion on this or peripheral threads, we will vote then. If there is, it will be post-poned one week.
After that vote has been resolved, tiers will be adjusted, and discussion will be open for another two weeks to make any final changes (after everything moves around, there might be a few things unbalanced again) so after two more weeks, a third and final vote will be had on any new propositions. Concerning this third period, Pokemon may not go into double jeopardy unless there is significant reason for them to be reconsidered. For instance, suppose Celebii drops down to UU, but Crobat stays in BL. It then might turn out Celebii is too powerful in UU- Crobat could be reccomended to drop down to UU to serve as a counter for the new UU Celebii with Taunt, Brave Bird and 4x U-Turn. After several more weeks a final vote will be had, and after that, tiers will be considered settled again.
Scoring system:
Votes are scored on point, not majority:
Outliers (more than one tier in the reverse suggested direction, more than three in the intended) will be removed except in special cases (like Thundurus. ._.). Point values will be averaged, and scored as such:
This topic is now open for discussion! Remember, keep it all off of main chat, please!