Luri

Awesome, meeting those goons outside the Fight Club and reading the note they drop should have triggered the side quest Criminal Activities. Just complete that side quest and that egg is as good as yours!

No problem at all! It’s quite a bit of fighting lol. You’ll know if you triggered it if you talk to the judge in the Fight Club and he gives you a wad of credits and says something to the effect of there’s not much more you can do. Hope you get your axew soon!

Hiya! Currently there are two ways to get an axew. There is the Mystery Egg you obtain in the Old Woodlands which can contain one. The other involves winning five elite trainer fights in the Cellia Fight Club in Cellia Central. That will trigger the side quest Criminal Activities and once that quest is finished, you will get an axew egg.

Desolation has always been a glimmer of brightness for me amongst the darker moments in life, and quite frankly, it is a beacon amidst the absolute chaotic world-state we find ourselves in right now. As it seems for many others as well. It’s a game that holds a special place in my heart. It has given me a sense of solace in hard times. It has provided a story that has stoked my curiosity and resonated with me. It has rekindled my creative spark. And of course, provided many joyful weekend discord adventures with friends. You started something special that has touched many of us, which is a pretty amazing feat. I hope that instills in you a sense of pride. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for all that you have given us. All that being said, your mental wellbeing comes first and foremost. I hope you one day conquer the hardships. Maybe even find inner peace. You deserve that and much more. Please take care and farewell Caz! We wish you the very best! Now that the torch has been passed on, I have faith you guys will do a phenomenal job. It won’t be the same but that’s okay, it doesn’t have to be. Different perspectives allow for creativity to thrive and flourish. I’m sure your new vision will harmonize with the essence of Desolation thus far and inspirit a new and wonderful adventure for us to experience. That’s an exciting prospect to look forward to and I know I can’t wait to see what all of you have in store for us! Cheers to the start of a new chapter for Desolation!

Hi there! Does the NPC say why you need to head there? My guess is that the Underground might be the Undercity. The Undercity is located to the left of Cellia Central’s Ranger station (on the same street as your manor and the Cellia Battle Tournament building). Garret’s crew should be standing in front of the alleyway that leads down there. Unfortunately, you will be rocking Snarl for a while longer. As of this current version, there aren’t any other special dark TMs besides Snarl.

Yeehaw! I am certainly anticipating future spelunking. Looks like a blast!

Yep yep, power works best with a motive to fulfill a meaningful purpose (I suppose most things do lol). Personally, I think power for the sake of power can work well if it’s a desire that is spurned on by a lack of agency or freedom for a character. Situations that would actively cause someone to seek out power or positions of power and use it for themselves. That sort of hurt people hurt people phenomenon. But so far it doesn’t seem that Waldenhall falls into this camp so we will see if he has a greater goal to achieve! Not only would Zoroark look so cool with a shiny new Perfection form, but its ability could absolutely give us some great twists along the way! The prospects omg…. I do think it would have a purpose in the overarching story. Hardy was introduced to the player as early as Route 2 and has cropped up several times in the main story. He was chosen specifically by Lilith and he’s now a high-ranking Black Fox. He has quite a bit more story significance than characters like Aderyn the flying type gym leader or Aaron the steel type gym leader (sorry Aaron, you’ve been on the sidelines for a while now. Hope he makes a return at some point). To add to his story presence Hardy and Emily are the only two prominent characters that have silhouettes in the Wildlands Cave in the Dreamscape. Even now I’m not quite sure what that really means in the grand scheme of things but it’s such an odd detail to persist throughout the episodes that it feels significant in some way. I think he has quite a bit of story relevance still. His Zoroark is part of their Project Perfection so it is most likely being dosed with Perfection serum. His arc will eventually have to tackle that. And it would be a perfect time to do exactly that now that we have an inkling of what Perfection is. Hardy’s situation could provide a unique perspective of Perfection and give us more context about it. We got to see Umbreon's transformation but as far as we know Perfection hasn't affected Lilith. If Hardy's Zoroark gains the Perfection state would Hardy also be unaffected? Or would it be different for him? Plus Hardy isn’t chasing Perfection for Perfection’s sake. He is a contrast to those with a desire to use Perfection for their own gains. And with Lilith currently MIA (who knows if she’ll be back in time to help the protagonists…that last note attached to the Black Piece is kinda sketch imo) Hardy could fill this role until Lilith is found or the protagonist obtains a Perfection mon of their own. If it turns out not to be a “in the race” situation (I could be overestimating that aspect given that Darkrai’s trainer has already booked it over to Darkrai…things might fall apart a lot quicker than anticipated) then he could still have a hand in the plot as an ally. He only allied himself with the Foxes to help his pokémon and I don’t think that’s changed even now that he’s in the higher ranks of the Foxes. Zoroark gaining Perfection could provide extra firepower if things get dicey for the heroes. It might not be as thematically strong as him being a proper candidate and what that signifies in conjunction to the other two, but it could most certainly add more spice to the story! Of course, the whole counter to all this is that artificial Perfection serum has never produced anything but failures, leading to the idea that Perfection cannot be man-made or artificially constructed. Assuming Zoroark has been juiced up with Perfection serum then based on those results Zoroark will probably meet the same fate as other experiments. However, if this whole theory has some merit, it could throw out some of Waldenhall’s and Team Cresent’s findings…that Perfection can’t be manufactured. Or at the very least it might show that the stringent requirement of Perfection outweighs the synthetic recreation aspect. It might be less about how it’s obtained and more about adhering to the aspects of bonds and desolation. That’d be kinda neat. Oh, the irony of that would be so good! If Waldenhall does achieve Perfection without pokémon some repercussions have to happen. Absolutely! I think that’d make for an exciting turn of events! I agree, tonally the main plot beats usually reflect the gravity of the situation pretty well and any levity in them tends to be down-to-earth and fitting for the cast imo. Not to say silliness doesn’t have its place…Jarred and Ryder brings that in spades! I also think Darkrai would probably just yeet him into the Grid and call it good! If anyone from Team Darkrai were to do such a thing, my money is on Shiv (assuming he’s truly drunk the kool-aid at this point and will be more antagonistic going forward). He’s pretty dramatic so I can see him doing it to toy around with Waldenhall. It’s certainly silly, could be framed as borderline mocking, but also doubled as a show of force. In that essence it coulddddd work. Or combine it with disposing of the pokeball in some fashion. Like Aurora yeeting the pokeball and it smashes to pieces or use poke-Waldenhall in battle or something along those lines and presto! Now the silliness a moment ago isn’t so silly anymore…it takes on a darker hue. Might be a bit more fitting for the situation at hand. In all honesty I’ve played Deso on and off for several years now…I think I stumbled upon it around e3? E4? Somewhere around there. So certain characters have been ingrained in my noggin (clearly just not Cedric xD)! The Waldenhall estranged theory is more of a crackpot theory that doesn’t have any strong evidence. Emily, Connor’s sister and electric type gym leader, has blonde hair and red eyes and I think of her every time I see Waldenhall. And Connor is seeking his own form of power; to be a strong trainer. He’s never satisfied and since he stepped foot on Arcanius he’s been even more impatient and rash. He is jumping into things alone and relying on his own strength at the expense of others. He burned the fallen logs that the workers were trying to clear despite the fact that could have caused a forest fire. Can’t forget that also means they have no work now. Plus, he ran into the group of Foxes alone and the protagonist, Scarlett, and Garret had to jump in to help. It’s very loose interpretation at best and more of a silly theory than anything else. The plausibility is quite slim. But entertaining the scenario I’d think it’d be an interesting family dynamic for Waldenhall. Plus, it’d give more time for development between the three of them. Maybe those traits of Connor’s stem from this estranged relationship with Waldenhall? And Emily obtained more of the physical traits? That’s about it :). There’s still time for an estranged narcissistic mother to enter the picture if Waldenhall turns out to be a bust! At the very least I feel like that could make for some interesting headcanons. My heart goes out to you on that front! Totally, when there are choices present within a game there will always be a small aspect of we are what we choose to be. Especially if we get a story split later on (no idea if we will or not but fun prospect to consider). But there is most certainly something more lurking beneath the surface. The protagonist’s past has potential to recontextualize the present self. Maybe piecing together their past will draw out a dormant personality (each protagonist seems to have a distinct personality shown through flavor text when changing character appearance in Cellia Central)? If the protagonist proves to be a part of Darkrai’s trainer in some form or another then that opens up a can of possibilities. Of course, there’s always the chance that their present self might not change much after the reveal. But external factors can change. Like as far as I can tell it doesn’t seem like Darkrai recognized the protagonist the way the entity (probably Darkrai’s trainer) eventually did. How others react to the knowledge will be interesting at the very least. I definitely hear ya! It’s been a hotttt minute since I’ve played earlier versions so grain of salt here but I kinda got that vibe more in earlier iterations of the game. More of an unfortunate soul who happened to get caught up in the thick of all this. The protagonist washing ashore near Darkroot with protagonist amnesia and the mysterious connection with the major antagonists was not on my bingo card when booting up e6! So, I do hope we get a bit more on that front as well :)

Sorry things have been a bit chaotic and whatnot! Yeah, I can totally understand that. I am most invested in the Darkrai side of things as well. It’s past with its trainer, whether or not Darkrai and its trainer are going to get along with one another, what exactly is going on with the twins, the whole kit and caboodle. Lots center around them. And the intrigue of how the protagonist actually fits into the picture is just too enticing! I do think a part of it, at least for me, is that Waldenhall hasn’t had enough screentime. We’ve heard characters mention him, we’ve read some journals left by him. We know what he has done but he hasn’t made an appearance until episode 6. He’s now an active participant wrapped up in the upcoming chaos so we will see if he deviates from the pre-defined scientist template or expands upon it. Kinda like Artem. There is something there that kinda sparks an interest in me about Artem. He has been researching the Grid and uses it to obtain info but outside of that he’s had so little exposure so far that it’s certainly anyone’s guess as to which direction he will go in. They could absolutely end up being temporary figures in the end. I’m certainly not ruling that out as a possibility though I like to think they have potential to be something more. Though totally gonna admit I do have fondness for archetypal scientists so that does fuel my personal intrigue a bit :) I don’t really have a set idea about how his story might go but more of a collection of thoughts and whatnot about Waldenhall. If he does end up being a more traditional curiosity driven character that can still hold some potential. If it’s something like that then his convictions and reactions to the upcoming situations will determine if he will be an interesting character with depth. Though I suppose I read his character a bit differently. I don’t think it is just curiosity or testing boundaries at play. He uses words and phrases like he is destined and this is his fate, his world. Perfection is an opportunity and something that has always belonged to him. He thinks of Perfection as a crown of silver and that he is destined to inherit the mantle. Crowns and mantles…objects that have associations with power, authority, and leadership. All the while others are unworthy of it and are his adversaries. And as Garret said there seems to be a sort of desperation driving Waldenhall. His motives may have started off as rampant curiosity but have slowly become tainted by unchecked ambition and egocentric entitlement. He somewhat gives me Elliot vibes. Reeve and Waldenhall sunk so much time and effort into researching Perfection. It’s his life’s work. He is destined to have his crown of brilliant blinding silver for all his efforts. He’s also giving me major Darkrai’s trainer vibes. Both seem to have these narcissistic tendencies, they both have used the sheep and shepherd analogy, both had the grand idea of bypassing the bond requirement, both think that Perfection is something that belongs to them, and they both have disdain against others (Darkrai’s Trainer has something against those “destroying the sanctity” of Arcanius and Waldenhall doesn’t seem too keen on Darkrai’s trainer, the priests at Kanzen Temple, or really the protagonist). And I think it’s this that connects him to Darkrai’s trainer. Not like any sort of actual connections but instead they are rather similar in some regards (at least to me. Though who knows…maybe there is a deeper connection between the two?). Waldenhall feels like a reflection of Darkrai’s trainer right now (fitting they meet in front of a mirror). Maybe his story will start shifting towards being tied to someone or something that is an equal to his own evil. Being antagonized by someone who has the worst qualities of himself. It could lead him down the path of self-reflection or he could just double down and struggle towards his goals which might ultimately lead to his own demise. I also had this little idea that Hardy and his Zoroark will obtain Perfection. Aside from someone like Tristan the dude is doing everything in his power to save Zoroark. He cares deeply for his pokémon, so much so he abandoned his hopes and dreams of becoming the Champion and ended up working with a criminal gang in order find a cure for it. Having a subordinate and a test subject obtain the one Waldenhall is pursuing sounds like peak irony. Quite a slap in the face for Waldenhall. Who knows if something like that could drive a wedge between him and the Foxes. Or maybe he’d make use of it somehow to further his own ends. It would be quite interesting to see what he’d do in a situation like that. Waldenhall has a lot of connections to other characters which could potentially help flesh out him as a character and give him more depth beyond chasing his ambition. He has his past mentor relationship with Reeve, the brewing conflict between Baron and Artem, the Garret/Eden situation, a potential conflict with Darkrai’s trainer and the rocky alliance with the Foxes. Such conflicts could elicit hidden motivations out of him and, depending on what happens, could start shifting his current goals. I also have to wonder what he would even do if he even achieved Perfection. Spending so many years chasing it…he’s bound to have some idea, right? Though I suppose if it turns out he doesn’t have any plan speaks volumes. Just gonna spitball some wackier ideas here. Stuff that borders on the line of a runaway imagination rather than anything concrete from the game! Maybe he comes from a similar background to Reeve. He may be brilliant and skilled, but he has nothing to his name and that bothers him. So, he pours years of his life into this research with Reeve, hoping to gain recognition. A way to prove his existence. His greatness. Maybe even had a thought or two of how it could aid Ayrith for the better, but in the end this type of research isn’t something that can be valued by the public. Not something that can give him the recognition he deserves, not unless he succeeds. He cannot go back to having nothing at all, being nothing at all, having his name fade away like the names of first trainers who arrived on Ayrith. The only way to achieve his goals now is to make it his sole driving force. He has no other choice. Huge crack theory but he turns out to be Emily and Connor’s estranged father or father that left them as children to pursue his research. It’s the blond hair and red eyes man... Putting the legitimacy of that theory aside, a family aspect such as that and all the complexities they hold could also help give the ambitious scientist angle more depth. There’s a part of me that really wants him to get his way somehow, preferably by some loophole or something. Let him get what he wants. The plane of creation or whatever it is can sense his “impurity” so any creation he crafts will reflect his very nature. His nature that refused to love and care for pokémon or anyone else. Everything he constructs ends up corrupted and filled with a burning flame of ambition and a black heart void of empathy and love. He ends up hunted by his creations for control of the place. Since there’s no theoretical way to get back, he’d just be stuck in this Perfection plane of existence. Now watch him get turned to dust next episode and then both him and my ideas can just blow away in the wind xD

That is quite an interesting idea about Tristan. I could see that working. For Darkrai to have such control over Tristan and to snuff him out so easily there’s a chance Darkrai dreamed-up Tristan. His likeness could be based on its trainer. And they were using the normal gym leader’s death to confuse the protagonist…Tristan might not be Tristan the normal type gym leader. There’s something kinda sinister about that. I really like that interpretation of Perfection and the relationship between Darkrai, its trainer and the protagonist! That the story is about the trials and tribulations of bridging the gap between the shadow and the self, acceptance of the whole, and healing and growing as a person! What do you think about Waldenhall given this interpretation? He’s following a similar path to Darkrai and its trainer, sharing similar narcissistic tendencies and committing atrocities for the sake of Perfection. It makes me wonder if Waldenhall will be able to defy his fate and have a chance to reconnect his internal and external sides? Or will he be an example of what happens when someone embraces their shadow but never reaches a balance between the two? Very fitting that Darkrai and nightmares go hand in hand. Those are all good points about dreams and direction…without them it can feel like aimless wandering that can lead to anxiety and nightmares. I think there’s also the pressure of not being able to reach goals or dreams, which can result in fear and anxiety. While many lack direction and goals in the Dreamscape there are also those who struggle to achieve them. Before Anna found out that they’d been bamboozled the Odis Council were scrambling to deal with the lack of resources and infrastructure for the town. Same goes for the South Settlement. There are quite a few interesting concepts that the Dreamscape seems to cover. As Aurora once said to a couple of Foxes “It will soon be time for you to pick a side”. Absolutely, many have a vision as to how the world should be and they inevitably drag others into it. Even in the Dreamscape normal folks aren’t safe from it, with Mattias, a previous Black Fox, vandalizing the shrines and thinking that the strong should guide the weak, that they should be the ones in charge. It will certainly be exciting to see how a resolution will be reached between all these factions! Side note response- Actually, that’d be quite a neat idea! I feel it…I don’t know how many times I’ve forgotten Cedric’s name when writing a couple of posts on here (I remember his piercings more than his name…sorry Cedric I’m terrible at remembering names DX) I remember during my playthrough of e6 my friend and I talking about Serentiy’s camera, and I thought it’d be kinda cute to snap photos of locations and friends and they could be displayed in the manor with. Could do something like that and add little bios for important characters/locations and a summary of events (it gives me a chuckle to think about the protagonist pulling out a camera upon first meeting Darkrai and snapping a photo for the scrapbook back home lol). Aside from that the Wiki does provide some helpful information that makes it a tad easier to remember things. It’s slowly being worked on so at some point it’ll be more accurate and up to date.

Yeah, quite a bit needs to be added and whatnot. Never added stuff to a Wiki before but I could probably pitch in here and there! Also yeah go for it. I believe the Wiki is open for the public to edit and work on so the more the merrier.

I don’t believe Hisuian forms are available in v6.

Regional pokémon are evolved in a slew of places! To get Galarian Mr. Mime you have to evolve Mime Jr. with Mimic in Silver Forest. You can get Alolan Marowak by evolving a Cubone at night. Evolving Exeggcute with a leaf stone in Sunshell Town will give ya Alolan Exeggutor. And Alolan Raichu can be obtained by evolving Pikachu with a thunderstone in the Abandoned Power Plant in Cellia Central.

Honestly, going through a bit of experimentation is no biggie to make sure ya could use the Lycanroc of your choice. I’m just glad I could help! Enjoy your spikey friend <3 Tbh I totally forgot about the whole evo method of mainline Dusk Lycanrocs (it’s been a hot minute since I’ve used one), hence my first suggestion. Wasn’t until dudeguyman commented I was like oh duh silly me, that was a bit of a flub on my part xD. I wasn’t quite sure if the time was the contributing factor here, so I added that just in case. Glad I did! No need to apologize, it happens~ Looks like ChatGPT needs to go study the pokedex again. Its times are a bit off lol! Quite a solid team there. Sound strategy too, who needs defense when the opponent can’t even use a move :3 I feel ya, I quite enjoy the challenge and the fights and occasionally beating up smug trainers like Connor, but the story is what draws me in. I hope your team helps you with the challenges we will face come the next version! Yep yep, Perfection requires a strong bond between a trainer and a pokémon…that said that’s actually kind of an interesting idea about Tristan! If ya feel up for it and have some more theories on the story ya should totally pop on over to the Thoughts & Theories thread. We’ve been chatting about all sorts of aspects of the story and characters. It’s always exciting to hear other’s ideas and perspectives about all the mysterious goings-on! I don’t wanna bog this particular thread down with too many non-Lycanroc related topics but I *might* have some time-saving tips. Dunno if ya know either of these tips but there is a nature changer in Deso too. He’s in Cellia South, next to the Pokémon Center. Costs 5 credits per nature change. So, if you have some spare credits laying around, ya can go change Alolan Ninetails nature to the preferred nature instead of soft-resetting for it. Also holding down the Esc key scrolls through dialogue much faster than mashing through it. Saves quite a bit of time if you just wanna book it through the dialogue without reading it. If ya do know all that…well I tried! xD Ditto, I adore the others, but Deso has to be my fav as well. Have fun with your next play through! :)

I went back and double checked! I’ve evolved three Rockruffs with each of its ability (Keen Eye, Steadfast, and Vital Spirit) at 7:40 PM and each evolved into a Dusk Lycanroc with the Tough Claws ability in Desolation. Own Temp is not needed to evolve a Rockruff into Dusk Lycanroc in this particular game :) I'll just attach a photo of my experiment just in case!

Oh yes, I see what you mean now! You don’t have to worry about your Rockruff not having Own Tempo, Dusk Lycanroc will always have Tough Claws as its ability in this game.