Maelstrom

I have yet to read that anywhere, actually. The absence of a recording when there normally be one would be absolutely suspicious. And illegal. Doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.

Karpy said 3/4 mile earlier, and now you say 3 and 1/4 mile. I know from deployment experience how timelines aren't always completely accurate. If you had robbed a store, would you be walking away from the location or running because you didn't want to get caught? 1. 3/4 of a mile in 6 minutes, IF that time gap is even accurate, is pretty easy when a full mile in 8 minutes is considered rather slow. 2. Even if it's not him, the theft itself has nothing to do with the actual incident in which the officer made the decision to the pull the trigger and a bullet hit Brown in the head. 3. His friend who was with him during the shooting admitted that Brown stole the stuff. So, it's far more likely that the timelines are imperfect than the thief wasn't him after this fact. 4. The theft only lends credibility to the cop after the fact- IT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A VIABLE REASON TO SHOOT BROWN TO DEATH. So you guys need to stop acting like that was actually the reason behind the shot when the COP HIMSELF SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS THE THIEF. THAT MEANS THE THEFT WAS NOT A FACTOR IN ANY WAY IN HIS DECISION TO PULL THE TRIGGER. The most likely way to prove one way or another is to review the dash cam from that car, if it had one, to prove either the friend's story or the cop's story. At this point, there is still room for either one of them to be lying.

We don't know yet. If the altercation happened at/near his police car, at least sounds of the alteration should have been captured on the dash cam. We'll have to wait for that bit of evidence to be released. A lot hinges on that. And as I mentioned earlier, he physically threatened a gas station worker. It is therefore far more likely that Brown would have chosen to use violence against a police officer.

You forget that stealing something like that isn't grounds for a lethal shooting, so it isn't a defense. And the cop probably hadn't seen the footage till later, being out on patrol in his car. He only responded to the location of the call and got a description from the dude that got robbed. The altercation with Brown soon after is really only a coincidence that the cop actually ran into the thief without knowing. The fact that he was a thief lends credibility to the story that Brown attacked him. The primary point of defense for the officer is the claim that he was attacked and that Brown was trying to gain control of his gun. The fact of the theft is practically irrelevant except for the fact that it stands as evidence against Brown's character. And the riot, as many riots do, would then be a wrongful reaction to a situation where the wrong things were assumed as a result of the segregation and bigotry that apparently seems rampant in the area. IE, people were so willing to believe that the worst, wrong thing had happened that they acted on emotion rather than straight facts. @ Erick, that is indeed a black mark on the department, however... it only means so much, especially when the officer in this particular incident was not one of involved in the case you mentioned. It does not mean every officer in the department are so disposed to violence and bigotry. As evidence, this is both highly circumstantial and very weak.

So you're assuming the time on the possibly closed circuit security camera is 100% accurate. And I still don't see the point. As far as I can see, they looked at the footage of the store later and saw some similarities between the thief and the guy that got shot and figured he could be the guy. NEVERMIND the fact that the guy with Brown admitted that Brown had stolen the cigars. I still don't see why you bring up the store footage when the robbery itself has nothing to do with the use of lethal force when the officer encountered brown later. The store robbery is reported by the police as a foundation of character for Brown. He used violence against a clerk for cigars. It makes it much more likely that he then turned around and attacked a cop for getting after him for what basically sounds like jaywalking. The cop has been working for 6 years without a complaint filed against him. The kid he ended up shooting physically threatened another man in a theft not long before he was shot. This background information implies that the cop that shot him wasn't a bad cop, while it paints Brown in a violent state of mind with no regard for the law or authority.

The article said the cop went to the store and searched the immediate area and didn't see him, but soon after driving away he happened to encounter Brown. I don't see your point in going over this fact again. Police report filed or initiated at that time? Or estimated time of the event? One does not simply check one's watch all the time. Who knows how the time was decided on a single form. Not that we can read the form from that picture. Stealing is one thing. Attacking a cop and attempting to wrest control of his firearm from him are two different things. Pretty sure a cop is authorized lethal force in order to prevent his firearm from being taken from him. So the initial assumption of death for theft is clearly wrong if such a struggle did indeed occur. Edit: On a sudden random political tangent... Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power. http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/politics/rick-perry-indictment/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html That 'teen' is one big fucker. Who stole $50 worth of cigars after strong-arming a much smaller gas station clerk. The friend of the kid who died claims the officer grabbed his friend's neck and tried to pull him into the car. The officer claims he was physically pushed back into his car and was assaulted by Brown, who then also was trying to take his pistol from him. "grabbed his friend's neck and tried to pull him into the car" - this is retarded. This is not how police are trained to restrain anybody because something like this is stupid beyond all reason and would absolutely leave the officer vulnerable to attack. I call bullshit. Given the physical aspect of both Brown's size and his method of theft, I know whose story I believe.

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Nephilim

You say it like it's a nationwide problem when it isn't. Missouri is deep south and the roots of resentment are deep. Do you remember that one guy in the movie Lincoln who was against slavery but could not vote on emancipation because he could not in good conscience without enfranchising all of them. Do you know what he meant? He switched his vote to help the 13th amendment pass but you can look to the south to see how unsuccessful the US was to enfranchise and enable these newly freed men and women. This failure has had significant consequences. ... and what fact were you talking about? I hope you don't mean your dire prophesying.

So I'm some tomboy princess with a red pony tail and a spear who uses wind magic. She's like an Akali-Jenna mix.

"I took the liberty of re-editing the Daily News' shameful Robin Williams cover." Bless him.

Time to have fun and play devil's advocate. Tear gas isn't made to make you feel good. It's there to make you get the fuck out of there. Same with rubber bullets. Used when words just don't do the trick. I wonder if they're cheaper than the bean bag launcher system... hmm... But yeah, do we know what actually happened before the decision to use them was made? Not that I know of. But what we can generally assume that there was a initially a large crowd of angry people- you know, things that scare highly outnumbered cops who are thinking about their well-being. I can see some trigger fingers getting itchy. riot- a violent disturbance of the peace by a crowd protest- a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something the difference is the violence part. Cuz that's the part that's destructive rather than constructive. Start lighting shit on fire and throwing things with the intent to destroy or injure and shit gets real. Anyways, the order of escalation by both sides is important here and we don't have a clear picture on the whole situation. It looks like the kkk members there are backing the police and not the other way around. Or the police are doing what they usually do when kkk members congregate- keep other people away so it doesn't escalate into violence. Relatively speaking, that kkk group is being civil in that picture. I live under a rock so all I really know is that a fatal shooting of an unarmed teen was the trigger that unleashed all sorts of bad feelings there. Anybody have any more details? Do you think they intentionally gassed that news crew or do you think the news crew was being a news crew and taking their nosy selves into the thick of things? Context matters. And what we have are photos with no context. Photos by people generally around, but not directly involved in the situation. Probably people following the big group, trying to find out what's going on and getting gassed because of something the group did earlier. Everything I've seen so far has been pretty one-sided and very little showed any clear understanding of the real situation. Going into houses to arrest people? As a soldier, if some taliban guy shot at us or threw a grenade at us and ran away into some buildings or houses, you can be damn sure we'd go in there to try to nab the guy. A house won't save you if you've been seen doing shit you weren't supposed to. Hopefully they're all equipped with cameras and stuff to record because shit has hit the fan and every action, decision, and order of event will be questioned and scrutinized for fault once things have settled down. What a mess.

The one with diamonds for eyes thanks to Old Spice.

Banned for having a secret evil base.

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^ I thought it was one of those jokes/pranks people play on soldiers when they're out in the field. Like, we go out into the woods and shit for days and weeks on end and aren't technically allowed our cell phones and some ask their buddies in other units or whatever to keep them updated on the news via text. And back when all the celebrities were dying in the same year a few years back, there were a lot of pranks of random celebs dying. I was really hoping this was a bad joke.

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