Am I the only one who runs Haze on almost every team because of this? Got to be honest, That is the only reason I have been able to defeat Crep countless times. And by the way, That is only on one of my teams out of many. Whoever said it was 'Just Crep' is a pathological liar first of all. I've seen it on Rahul's copied Crep team and a few other people who have been effortlessly trying to copy his team. At least 5 times outside of Crep have I fought this and it's getting rather annoying and guess what? Surprise, Suprise, I'm not in AO, So clearly it isn't just 1 specific group of people who are wanting to win considering I don't even ladder and yet I STILL face these things like Clefairy and Clefable with minimize and cosmic power mixed with sub, Making it nearly impossible to kill with Hazards, Regular moves, or the commonly used pokemon Conkeldurr or Speed boost Blaze. After it subs and goes straight into Minimize and I fail to hit through the sub cause of the +2 boost, I'm completely screwed because it stalls out my moves, I had to change Hi Jump Kick to Double Kick, And guess what? Surprise surprise, It didn't hit for anything. We're literally sitting here having to change our teams because these people are copying Crep or using their 'edited original version' of his entire team by just switching maybe 3 pokemon entirely? Yes, It is a problem, Yes it is making people rage, Yes it is causing us to have to carry a specific pokemon just to counter the team entirely which almost makes it entirely useless in the regular competitive world since things like Aura Sphere and Aerial Ace are completely useless otherwise. Maybe you don't see it but the fact you sat there and say 'Only people in AO use it so they can preserve their wins' I could possibly very well speak for me and countless other regulars who don't like it that aren't even in AO so, You might want to consider rewording that because that statement was completely false. I have been keeping on changing the focus of a small part of my team specifically for these evasion people. Things like Ninjask are already hard to hit entirely but when you throw baton pass on it and throw it onto something like a Baton Pass team, It makes the entire point of the team useless unless you focus into one point of the game. And most of us are tired of having to change our teams to account for the incredible amounts of unfairness in evasion itself. And in case you don't see it, I'm not the only one, I can completely guarantee you that people like Brave are probably tired of it to, And all these people you say are 'raging about the metagame' should say something to you all about being completely oblivious to the real issue evasion is even causing for at least half of Reborn. I'm tired of seeing "OMG EVASION WTF" on the main chat, And I'm sure the auths are by now as well.