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  1. to be honest, I don't see the battling even being relevant... If you can successfully initiate a battle with your target, your chances of killing are staggeringly high..
    I only go perhaps 1 in 20 battles without losing at least 2 Pokemon.
  2. Q: How are you supposed to force people to battle you? Asuming they play smart and make sure they don't get isolated in a back channel, and never battle except with ana lt against their target.... You just can't really get them to battle you.
  3. [quote name='Maelstrom' timestamp='1310436834' post='17737']
    Everything has become so... unreal. The chat has deteriorated into obsessive rp'ing and shallow whisperings that I've no desire to be part of. For me, gone are the days of meaningful and humorous banter I used to enjoy. This place just doesn't suit my style anymore.
    [/quote]

    ya think?

    it's pretty ridiculous, and the main reason I just lurklurklurk.
  4. I love Dusknoir... but... he... just... doesn't really kill you anymore. Like, he'll burn a couple of guys and... revenge kill with Shadow Sneak? ._.
    BL seems good for him.
    Suicune, it doesn't really do anything against some of the things it comes in on. Ok, so it can Ice Beam Dragon-types, and... hope to burn with Scald on everything else? It can't really Calm Mind up fast enough to be a real threat.
    Starmie, yeah, UU is pretty ballsy, BL sounds good.
  5. Sooo, why am I doing this?

    [quote](13:54:28) +Tenshi: ehhh, I think tiers could use some polishing :S
    (13:54:50) +Amethyst: Last updated April...[/quote]

    Yeah, it's been quite a while, and well, things could use some moving around.

    Current tier lists:

    [size=4][b]Uber[/b][/size]
    [scroll]
    Mewtwo
    Lugia
    Ho-Oh
    Groundon
    Kyogre
    Rayquaza
    Deoxys (Normal)
    Deoxys (Attack)
    Deoxys (Speed)
    Dialga
    Palkia
    Giratina
    Giratina-O
    Manaphy
    Arceus
    Darkrai
    Reshiram
    Zekrom
    Shaymin-S
    [/scroll]

    [size=4][b]OU[/b][/size]
    [scroll]
    Alakazam
    Machamp
    Tentacruel
    Slowbro
    Cloyster
    Gengar
    Gyarados
    Ditto
    Vaporeon
    Zapdos
    Dragonite
    Mew
    Politoed
    Espeon
    Wobbuffet
    Scizor
    Skarmory
    Kingdra
    Suicune
    Tyranitar
    Blaziken
    Swampert
    Breloom
    Salamence
    Metagross
    Latios
    Jirachi
    Deoxys (Defense)
    Garchomp
    Lucario
    Hippowdon
    Gliscor
    Dusknoir
    Heatran
    Victini
    Serperior
    Excadrill
    Conkeldurr
    Whimsicott
    Zoroark
    Reuniclus
    Ferrothorn
    Chandelure
    Haxorus
    Mienshao
    Hydreigon
    Volcarona
    Terrakion
    Thundurus
    Landorus
    Keldeo
    Genesect
    Meloetta
    Ninetales
    Starmie
    Porygon2
    Latias
    Weavile
    Bronzong
    Darmanitan
    Chansey
    [/scroll]

    [size=4][b]BL[/b][/size]
    [scroll]
    Aerodactyl
    Snorlax
    Forretress
    Heracross
    Celebi
    Ludicolo
    Sableye
    Sharpedo
    Infernape
    Abomasnow
    Yanmega
    Togekiss
    Mamoswine
    Rotom (wash)
    Azelf
    Cresselia
    Shaymin
    Scrafty
    Jellicent
    Golurk
    Mandibuzz
    Jolteon
    Smeargle
    Wynaut
    Blissey
    Kyurem
    [/scroll]

    [size=4][b]UU[/b][/size]
    [scroll]
    Venusaur
    Sandslash
    Nidoking
    Clefable
    Venomoth
    Dugtrio
    Arcanine
    Hitmonlee
    Omastar
    Kabutops
    Moltres
    Feraligatr
    Azumarill
    Umbreon
    Slowking
    Steelix
    Houndoom
    Donphan
    Hitmontop
    Sceptile
    Swellow
    Flygon
    Volbeat
    Milotic
    Dusclops
    Gorebyss
    Registeel
    Electivire
    Magnezone
    PorygonZ
    Gallade
    Froslass
    Rotom (all forms except normal and wash)
    Stoutland
    Scolipede
    Lilligant
    Crustle
    Carracosta
    Archeops
    Cinccino
    Gothitelle
    Sawsbuck
    Escavalier
    Galvantula
    Bisharp
    Braviary
    Durant
    Tornadus
    Cobalion
    Virizion
    Crobat
    Quagsire
    Ninjask
    Empoleon
    Roserade
    Staraptor
    Krookodile
    Cofagrigus
    Alomomola
    Accelgor
    Lapras
    Seismitoad
    Raikou
    [/scroll]

    [size="4"][B]LU *[/B][/size]
    [scroll]
    Charizard
    Blastoise
    Raichu
    Nidoqueen
    Primeape
    Victreebel
    Golem
    Rapidash
    Muk
    Kingler
    Exeggutor
    Hitmonchan
    Kangaskhan
    Scyther
    Articuno
    Typhlosion
    Lanturn
    Ampharos
    Jumpluff
    Qwilfish
    Shuckle
    Ursaring
    Miltank
    Entei
    Shiftry
    Gardevoir
    Slaking
    Shedinja
    Exploud
    Aggron
    Medicham
    Manectric
    Camerupt
    Cacturne
    Zangoose
    Whiscash
    Crawdaunt
    Claydol
    Cradily
    Walrein
    Relicanth
    Regirock
    Regice
    Bibarel
    Luxray
    Bastiodon
    Rampardos
    Floatzel
    Drifblim
    Toxicroak
    Lickilicky
    Tangrowth
    Magmortar
    Glaceon
    Probopass
    Mespirit
    Regigigas
    Simisear
    Simipour
    Swoobat
    Leavanny
    Sigilyph
    Klinklang
    Beheeyem
    Beartic
    Eelektross
    Vanilluxe
    Gigalith
    Sawk
    Throh
    Musharna
    Uxie
    Emboar
    Samurott
    Mismagius
    Honchkrow
    Spiritomb
    Drapion
    Rhyperior
    Leafeon
    Armaldo
    Absol
    Huntail
    Torterra
    Ambipom
    Pinsir
    Weezing
    Hariyama
    Bouffalant
    Druddigon
    Altaria
    Liepard
    [/scroll]

    [size="4"][b]NU[/b][/size]
    [scroll]
    Raticate
    Butterfree
    Beedrill
    Pidgeot
    Fearow
    Pikachu
    Wigglytuff
    Vileplume
    Parasect
    Persian
    Golduck
    Poliwrath
    Farfetch'd
    Dodrio
    Dewgong
    Hypno
    Electrode
    Seaking
    Mr. Mime
    Jynx
    Tauros
    Flareon
    Meganium
    Furret
    Noctowl
    Ledian
    Ariados
    Bellossom
    Sudowoodo
    Sunflora
    Unown
    Girafarig
    Dunsparce
    Granbull
    Macargo
    Corsola
    Octillery
    Delibird
    Mantine
    Stantler
    Mightyena
    Linoone
    Beautifly
    Duxtox
    Pelipper
    Masquerain
    Delcatty
    Mawile
    Plusle
    Minun
    Illumise
    Swalot
    Wailord
    Torkoal
    Grumpig
    Spinda
    Seviper
    Lunatone
    Solrock
    Kecleon
    Castform
    Banette
    Tropius
    Chimecho
    Glalie
    Luvdisc
    Kricketune
    Mothim
    Wormadam(all forms)
    Vespiquen
    Pachirisu
    Cherrim
    Gastrodon
    Lopunny
    Purugly
    Skuntank
    Chatot
    Carnivine
    Lumineon
    Phione
    Simisage
    Unfezant
    Audino
    Basculin
    Emolga
    Stunfisk
    Heatmor
    Rotom Normal
    Zebstrika
    Garbodor
    Swanna
    Amoongus
    Cyrogonal
    Shedinja
    [/scroll]

    Let's see, some quick opinions...

    Suicune - This thing is OU, because...? Ferrothorn easily makes Suicune its bitch, Chansey walls it to hell and back, many Pokemon use it for setup fodder, etc.
    Swampert - It sets up rocks, and....? It doesn't have nearly enough bulk to dominate a tier, and BL might actually let is see some play.
    Ditto - Why restrict it to OU? It copies a Pokemon, but does that make it too good? It's only as good as the Pokemon that are avaliable to copy.
    Meloetta - In normal forme, it has mediocre speed and not enough power. To get to step forme, it has to waste a turn using a weak normal move. Klol?
    Zoroark - It doesn't have a spectacular movepool or dominating stats. Once you realize that Illusion is nothing more than a cute trick, there's not much good left.
    Venusaur - [i]This thing[/i] is in UU? Venusaur in the sun can be a huge threat in OU, to say the least. While that doesn't warrant insta-OU, I'd say it should be BL at least, considering Vulpix exists.
    Virizion - This thing hurts a lot. Especially with Calm Mind. I think it'd be better in BL.
    Lapras - There's no real point in making it UU instead of LU since well, Drizzle doesn't exist below OU, and Lapras is pretty mediocre without permarain.
    Amoonguss - Spore + Great bulk seems easily LU at least. Isn't the new NU supposed to be the reject tier?
  6. Now, I understand there are many people out there who are following these anyways. But this is for those who have not(not naming any names), as well, they need a reminder one way or another.

    1. Don't post the same set.

    This seems obvious, right? I would think so. Yet, so many threads, I see with one person posting a [i]carbon copy[/i] of the previous set with one changed move. Really? Now if there's another option for that particular set, you can simply contact that person, and tell them to add a slash with the other option(s). Seriously, don't do it. If I see it, I'm deleting it and adding a slash to the original set.

    2. Have a description.

    Seriously, put a description people. If you have a set that you want to post, but don't have time to write a description for, save it. Wait until you have a description for it before posting it. Also, one sentence is not a description. If I see a set with no description, delete.

    3. If you make a topic for an unconventional Pokemon, add a set.

    For example, Cottonee. Why is there a topic for this again...? Yeah, if it's not a fully evolved Pokemon or something mainstream like Chansey, then you should post a set right away, or I'm going to question why the topic exists. If you [i]do[/i] have a set for a Pokemon that doesn't have a topic, feel free to make one.


    If anyone has more, I'll be glad to add them.
  7. The metagame changes. People discover new sets. Specific Pokemon see an increase in usage. There's no such thing as tiers being "set". They are and always will be imperfect; our goal in modifying tiers is to make them as close to perfect as possible. It doesn't matter whether someone is a "regular" or not, anyone can give their input if they feel like it, and if [i]you[/i] don't like their input, don't reply.
  8. LolChandelure
    Anyways, as the topic in question is Shadow Tag Chandera, the possiblity of other abilities will be dismissed in this post.

    Well, first of all, one thing. Chandelure is incredibly simple. Come in, KO, switch out. ANY assumptions that the fact that you can bring in a Pokemon to resist its chosen move after it gets a kill, and thus it is not Uber worthy, is incredibly silly. The point is, Chandlure can repeatedly switch in, kill certain Pokemon, and you can't do anything about it. The number of Pokemon that can truly kill it reliably are incredibly slim. Pursuit users, Dugtrio, and uhhh. That's it, really. The fact of the matter is, a Chandelure user has 5 other Pokemon. You can't expect them to just sacrifice Chandelure with the logic that "oh it killed something, it has done its job thus I can let it die". The sole reason it should even be considered for Ubers, is that it [i]doesn't[/i] just kill one Pokemon, it kills, switches out, and kills more later. That's the entire point, what can you do to prevent this? Well, hazards play quite the role. Being a Fire type, Chandelure will take a whopping 25% upon entry if Stealth Rock is up. Spikes, Toxic, Sandstorm, etc. can further weather it down. But, you [i]can't[/i] expect to have hazards up consistently. The fact of the matter is, what can you do about it? Pursuit Tyranitar is undoubtedly a superb option for killing it, but I wholly understand some people just don't want to use certain Pokemon for the sake of one Pokemon. So, what warrants banning? Overcentralization. If the majority of teams need to build accordingly for the sake of one particular Pokemon, then that's a clear signal for banning. Course, there's the problem with banning, we're [i]humans[/i]. No matter the result, there will be those who agree and those who disagree. It's simply [i]impossible[/i] to satisfy both groups. So we can only decide to the best of our judgment, because there is no "correct" answer. Anyways, back to my argument. Well, what defines overcentralization? It's fairly obvious that my example of the majority of teams adding counters is quite the exxageration; if such was true, we wouldn't be having such a discussion. Looking at the Reborn usage staistics, Chandelure is #9 in usage. But does that tell us anything? No. Reborn statistics hardly define the literal metagame of Reborn, the fact is Unrated battles simply would be more accurate. That's the reason Smogon statistics work, the ladder [i]is[/i] the metagame. But here, it's anything but. So what am i trying to say? Well, I'm solidifying my argument that you [i]can't[/i] be sure, ever. As mentioned prior, there is no correct decision. You [i]can't[/i] see if there's truly overcentralization to push for a ban, Reborn tiers are pretty much theorymon I'll admit. With that said, I'll be neutral for the time being.
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