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As far as I know being one who plays Grand Order there is nothing that confirms or denies that.All I know is that there's only one master you and your actually suppose to be a weak mages,and that servants like saber keep there parameters from the vn or light novel saber has her parameters from Fate/zero Gils are the same. And that all of the servants are official and that most of them have to get approved by Nasu.

he's meant to be versatile and stronger then regular assassins do to him being one who killed giants and not humans. He is somewhat similar to Shuten Douji who is a high class oni in the assassin class(whose three physical parameters are ABB btw). Jack is a Knight of the Round Table in the assassin class since how he fought was more fitting for the assassin class then saber which him being a knight of the round table who used a sword is the only reason he can fall into the saber class. i was doing some looking into NP's of other characters and actually found a base for invisibility which is E(thank you Fate/Iliya for having Gil actually use more then a sword rain.) so that's going to lower his coat to E as well and removing the whole A++ presence concealment since it just hides him from physical and magical sight. his sword is A- do to its description in his story "Anything it strikes will be cut asunder" so it can cut anything, but Jack lacks any ability to make it strike things that aren't physical or at least have a visual effect(like a sword beam or what not) that he can see. his shoes basically give him Okita Souji's Reduced Earth skill though his is less of a technique and more just speed so i'm going to reduce the rank to C or B- and stat that they give him that skill at like B- or something. his hat though i can't find a base for so i'm going to keep it as is. also keep in mind that sabers parameters of BCC is her with Shiro as her master and would be her at her weakest. Her with Rin as her master her parameters are ABB which would be her strongest well Jacks strongest is only BCC. also his Agility is crap for an assassin most of them have B or higher agility he basically trades the really high agility of assassins for higher strength and endurance then normal since you don't need to be overly quick to dodge giants but you do need to be strong and able to take hits. hell its probably only because of the assassin class that he even has that high of agility. if you want i can give you the exsamples from his story to why he has the ranks that i gave him. also the whole bad at fighting non giants is something i put there for murdoc to relate to something in Fate/Grand Order where Beowulf fought Li Shuwen in hand to hand with Li Shuwen winning because Beowulf(you know the guy who ripped a monsters arm off with pure strength) was use to fighting monsters where Li Shuwen being a master martial artiest who very good at fight people. Well Jack is great at fighting giants put him in a straight up fight against saber, lancer, or rider class servants he would lose(then again Jack doesn't fight fair so hehehehe). he's actually probably best at fighting berserker class servants (well at lest none Hercules or Lancelot berserkers) since they would probably favor more of the way giants fought. well and casters since he actually killed mages in his story though he only really did it after he got his NP' s. it was there to show even with high stats he would lose most fights if he didn't fight like Jack. edit: I changed his sheet to show what i said here.

well here's Jack the Giant Killer version 2 I reduced his endurance and NP ranks as well as change his Unknown guidance to Revelations rank B. added that his coat gives him a really high level of Presence concealment and his cap giving him Magic resistance and eye of the mind (true). limited only when wearing said item. Also reduced the ranking of his Np's a bit. and put a clause that he can't have more then two Np's active at a time without causing a major drain on both his and his master's mana. added a new points of interest for you to read.

well i guess since you actually someone i have interacted with more so then most here so........ Happy Birthday!!!!

an easy way to solve this would be to have Aiko being alive and not finding Tokiomi ready to compete in the war or being to stubborn not to do it himself, or something to that effect.

well here i thought you would have more problems with Samson since i made him to be really OP. well i get what you getting at i can't really see reason to why he would have any of his NP's sealed away do to his class. Nor do i feel it would be the same character if i did. He's meant to be a character who could either fight as a saber as an assassin or as an assassin as a saber. He's not really suppose to change much depending on his class. I could argue and say he doesn't have two NP's on the sheet already one being his first sword and the belt that came with it and the other a horn he used at the end of the story. both of which would be bad for an assassin since the sword and belt have his name written on them so everyone would know who he is and the horn being used to declare his victory before he even sees hes enemies. i'm fine with dropping his parameters a bit since even i felt them to be a bit high (well at least his endurance anyways) hell i would drop the ranking on his NP's if i could find NP's to compare them to.i don't quite know how invisibility compares to anything else since i don't have a base line for that from other NP's at least none i can think of off the top of my head nor do i have one for his cap of intelligence since it grants him the knowledge he wants or needs(though i could change that to mainly granting skills like magic resistance and eye of the Mind true). what do you think would be best? I'm coming from a skewed point of view since i made him like that so i need an outside opinion or at least some suggestions.

i see i always considered it as if history has given you a monstrous reputation like Vald and Barthory who both are portrayed in popular culture as vampires with Anderson's being a bit weird since his comes from "The Curse of the Readers" which basically is just rumores because he was a famous author of Fairy tales he must "surly be like this" which they really never explain that well. but i get what your going for since there isn't a cannon skill really for involuntary appearance change other then innocent monster. (though nothing is stopping you from making you own skill since there isn't anything monstrous about that change, but do what you want to do i won't stop you.)

finally finished the first part of the event yay. now i can grind for resources so i can get the ascension items for Scath. at least until part two starts.

1. i understand where your coming from, but I'm having trouble seeing how that would count as a monstrous reputation since its still writing about regular people where in Anderson wrote Fairy Tales. it sounds more like shapeshitf or something along that line or maybe something like transformation at a lower rank.,but i will differ to your judgement for since this is your character and you know what your going for. 2. thats makes since.

Oh no those are the gold servants I've gotten since I started playing. This event I only got two ninjas boys, robin hood and David. Two ryunoska CE and the Sita CE for the event. And a number of three star CE THAT I don't care about

its fine i tend exaggerate thing on occasions so having people keep me and check is good.I've know Jack and the Beanstalk was based off of another story for along time. i forget that not everyone likes to look into things like that like I do. If you think i should weaken him just let me know.

yeah i haven't been lucky enough to get some event servants or all of the items for them so i've been relying on rolls for gold servants. Lets see i've got D'eon, Saber, Kintiki, Beowulf, Fran, Rider pirate girls, Iskander, Rider Martha, Mc Cool,and Siegfried.

Hence why i said one of and not the most. Maybe saying fairy tale characters would of be better since he's Jack of both of the stories(and maybe finish the word i was writing) . I mean how many people don't know Jack and the Beanstalk?

yeah Jack and the Beanstalk is a much more kid friendly version of Jack the Giant Killer (no having Jack hanging giants or driving pickaxes through giants he trapped in a pit he dug in Jack and the Beanstalk). The story is usually considered to have been made because people where getting bored of stories of King Arthur so they made Jack to replace him. hence why i said i could SaberFace him easily since he was just a new version of King Arthur.

yeah the only gold lancer i have is Mc Cool who i really dislike. i still need a gold archer and caster definitely a caster(you know like Maria she adorable in this event). well i need an gold assassin too which hopefully i can pull off this event (if i can get all the ascension items)

so just going to point out that we don't even have enough servants to use. Lexi and me are the only two with Berserkers, but i"m the only one with an Assassin and Lexi is the only one with a Lancer. If either her or me play Berserker then either Assassin or Lancer won't be played so we need either another Lancer, Assassin, or Berserker before we have a full servant roster. i will make a Master at some time once i figured out how i want them. hell i will even play as the master for one of the families. which actually reminds me i need to put a disclaimer on Samson that if some one wants him as there servant they better have a way to supply a lot of Mana to him or he will burn them up. Just a few questions Acqui. 1. innocent monster i guess you got from Anderson's profile. He has it to represent the stories he wrote(The Litter Mermaid, and the Ice Queen.) so this skill doesn't do much for him other then make him have scales and frostbit on his body. So the question where did Charles Dickens get it from since he is well know for writing bildungsroman novels? 2. How fast did he/her write books? Anderson has High-speed incantation because he was really fast a writing stories. asided form those questions the servant is actually really cool and very interesting i would love to see what you could do with Him/her in the RP. @Tartar. As Lexi said parameters are just how the servant appears on paper and are just a quick judge of their power. They can actually change depending on the mage who summons them Saber( King Arthur) has three different sets of parameters One for Shiro as her master, one for Rin as her master and one for Shiro's dad as her master they all are different.( Rin's being the strongest cause Rin is a strong mage) Other things that effect a servants strength that really don't show up are. The age of the Heroic spirit being the older the stronger(usually), popularity of the Heroic spirit, and if the servant was summoned in there country of origin (KIng Arthur would be more powerful if summoned in Britain then in Japan, well a hero like Achilles is so well know throughout the world he is always summoned like if he was in his country of origin). the two i put up. Jack the Giant Killer is one of the most famous fairy tales out. And Samson well its Samson the one guy in the Bible who literally got super powers, and not to mention just how strong Judo-Christianity heroes are in Fate.

that's is if you get anything unlike me who didn't get anything from over 16 rolls that annoyed the hell out of me....dang it Ryonoska i don't want you CE i wanted a fanservice Servant i would of even took pirate girls this time. and i definitely won't have anything to use for the roll for the second half sorry Martha and Maria.

best way i can think of to incorporate a lot of the ideas would be to just give him one NP which is a Reality Marble where his fantasies are made real or something along those lines. His parameters seem fine to me though i don't know the story having never read it. all i know is that its the second most printed book next to the bible, and its old. servants who are purely fictional are allowed give the story is old enough(hell the first servant i put up was Jack the Giant Killer who wasn't ever real). Though do to how servants are wrote just go with "as a real character whose actions and traits have over time been embellished and falsified by authors to make a mockery of the man" that's what i would do it it was me. yeah Grand Order made it a lot harder to find none cannon servants.

just to correct something Tartar. Pioneer of the Stars isn't just for inventors. To quote the wiki on the description of it "Pioneer of the Stars is the unique Skill given to heroes that became turning points in the human history. All difficult voyages and challenges which are considered "impossible" turn into "events that can be realized". The cannon servants who who have it are Tesla, Francis Drake, and Da Vinci. Tesla because he "tamed" electricity and Drake for circumnavigating the world for the first time, and Da Vinci for well his inventions. though i do agree he would be very hard servant to role play though it would of been a fun character to see played sad to see him go. Though just for clarification servants and NP don't just have to meant for battle. I mean Shakespeare,Mozart,Hans Christian Anderson, and Florence Nightingale are all servants. hell another servant has a NP that creates a infinite amount of food.(mainly rice)

for the most part not much since its true power is sealed because Berserker. so it just acts like a weapon of the rank. Though i probably should of said something along that line. Alternatively it could just unleash giant shock waves when swung cleaving through all enemies in its path....hmm that makes a bit of more sense for an anti-army NP. though its not like he needs more.

I think i broke something.....

the typemoon wiki is where i pulled that from. go look in references for him its the first thing they show.

I know in Grand order they place things different since class skills are passive effects for servants. this is the profile for Astolfo in Apocrypha(minus the NP since we don't need to see that for this) Class: Rider Master: Celenike Icecolle Yggdmillennia True name: Astolfo Gender: Male Height/Weight: 164cm/56kg Alignment: Chaotic Good Strength: D Endurance: D Agility: B Magic: C Luck: A+ Noble Phantasm: C Class Skills ■ Magic Resistance: A Cancels all magecraft A rank or under. As a matter of fact, Astolfo cannot be injured by modern day magi. Because of the Book Noble Phantasm, Rank was greatly elevated. It is usually D rank. ■ Riding: A+ Riding Ability. Can ride beasts that are Phantasmal Beasts and Divine Beasts. However, Dragon Kind is not applicable. Personal Skills ■ Evaporation of Reason: D Reasoning is disappearing. It is impossible to keep any secrets. Carelessly chatters about own team's weaknesses and True Names, forgetful of important things, etc. A kind of extreme curse. This skill also serves as "Instinct." During battle one is able to, to some extent, feel the optimal course. ■ Monstrous Strength C- It is possible to rank-up Strength. However, in the situation that this skill is activated, every 1 turn that passes damage is taken. ■ Independent Action: B Ability that allows the magical energy from the master to be cut off and be independent. In the case of B rank, can last two days in the current world without a master --------------------------------------------------- they place it as a personal skill. I not saying he can't have it. i'm just saying that class skills are the skills that every hero summoned under the class will have.(with some exceptions like Siegfried not having Magic resistance since his NP gives it to him.) if they have other skills that are class skills of other class they become personal skills since there something that the Hero not the class haves. its really just and organization that bugs my head a bit. if you want it that way then i'll let it go(with a lot of groaning on my end where y'all can't hear me)