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Sheep, the Type-Moon Nerd from the Land Down Under who I forgot was a mod...so thanks. One thing i noticed people forgot killing the other servants in a battle isn't the only way to win you could just ignore them and kill the masters instead(well except for archer since Independent action.)

yeah i should set a max of her territory as well probably go with Five miles that would seem about right(and in a densely populated country like japan its quite a lot of people too)though it seems a bit small for it as well hmm... i am actually fin with everyone seeing everything(down side it takes away some of the mystery of it but its would be a bit fairer in the long run) it might help clarify some things as well as help fine tune them all. ((oop accidentally double posted could either delete the first one or combine them Hunkuna))

Psst, i know i am just having fun theorizing things.

you would reckon right Hukuna except that shes a Caster and she has familiars (which given who she is would most likely take the form of spirits) which she can use to gather information and you second NP has a distance limit. and second her first NP is not an aura its a bound field placed down upon the place she claims as her territory. which if he entered it on his own most likely would cause Banquo Rage to happen more often on its own. at least that's what i think. cause anime and make people fight in very impractical clothes there's probably a troupe for it. yeah that happens but it really all depends on the development of the story be for anything else though her first NP may not do much to yours but her second one is a whole other story.

its more like Sheep said likely she would cause him to go in permanent Banquo rage mode potentially killing him and his master through mana drain or use his madness to fuel her second NP which relies on to growth of her First one. most likely would fall somewhere in the middle of those two. She would probably keep his madness slightly controled so it can fuel her second NP well using him as guard for her territory. well that depends on the events which happens with in the story and which side i decide her to be on. as loner or a MA goon.(most likely loner just cause how she works.

I see I see still going to quote it just because its one of my favorite scenes. Macbeth "Thou losest labour: As easy mayst thou the intrenchant air with thy keen sword impress, as make me bleed: Let fall thy blade on vulnerable crests; I Bear a charmed life, which must not yield to one of woman born." Macduff "Despair thy charm; and let the angel whom thou still hast served Tell thee, Macduff was from his mother's womb Untimely ript." ((also the reason my caster would do well against him is because she is quite good with causing madness especially paranoia, well as long as he his with in her territory which is like five to seven miles given the size of the place she is from))

You did quite a good job on Berserker Hukuna. Yeah making servants makes for a fun challenge. and the Banquo rage isn't super OP just super exploitable for my caster hehehehehehe. though i have to ask you guys do know why Macduff was able to fulfill the prophecy despite being a man whose mother was human right?

Hmm...i was thinking i might of made my caster's perimeters a bit higher but only two are above C rank luck and mana/magic luck being actually weaker since its has a minus where mana is high do to being caster. so i think it works fine. or i could just account it to being summoned by an average or slightly above average master. Since she is a relatively young heroic spirit she would be weaker compared older ones. never ranked her NP's but then again hers are ones that change in power quite a lot depending in different variables(mainly time, size of area and number if people)so it would be quite hard to place. Also Hukuna your servants looking quite good.

did some reading up on Medusa and her stuff her Pegasus is considered the same as her weapon she uses that chain dagger thingy which isn't a NP. Bellerophon allows her to turn the normal peaceful Pegasus into a weapon basically. In all honestly with out knowing who Rider is and what your thinking of i can't say what it really would be. @ Hukuna normally a Berserker does have weaker perimeters then the other classes before the mad enhancement(the ones seen would be considered powerful servants in other classes as well.) so its make sense they would be slightly weaker.

Yeah that's what i was trying to say her NP is the Bridal(i have now clue where the Pegasus came from guessing it came when the NP was activated.) But yeah that would defiantly be a NP not a skill.

yeah that is something different since Medusa only has the Pegasus through the activation of her NP which is the bridal not the creature(don't actually remember what its called.) its usually limited to three or less per servant, The only three i know that have more our Archer of Red, Achilles, and Perseus. well and Gil but that's only because of the Gate. Well the magic and stuff is all the same and they are said to be happening around the same time. about the only things you would need to understand is the Holy Grail War and how servants and masters work.(or watch the first couple episodes of Fate/Zero to get the best explanation for it.{hell even Fate/Ilya explains it better then the original Fate/Stay Night anime.})

well i did some looking on the wiki familliars are a personal skill for Assassin of Red and they where doves(and she gets away with a lot of magic stuff because of her other skill double summon which allows her to have the attributes of both Assassin and Caster) but if it really doesn't identify him to much i wouldn't be against him having it as a skill though you could name it something else if its related to him in a why. I know the feeling its the same thing that happened with me about my Caster. (she took about a mouth or so to get her to the level I did but i was doing that all on my own for the most part)

Luck is.....well luck. basically like in most video games it would slightly increase the other perimeters as well increase or decrease the odds of something happening.(like say increase the chance to hit of a weapon that's hard to aim. or decrease the the likelyhood of a servant dieing from a insta kill NP{like if Gea bloge is thrown the chance of it hitting the heart of the target is reduced}) basically its the balance perimeter. if this was Fate/Extra i could say Luck increases the chance of a critical hit and chance of hitting higher on your damage and reduces some of the damage. Yeah but most Heroic spirits don't have that insane amount of luck like Mat.His luck would be akin to a NP more then anything. as Bfroger said its possible but its very rare. The servants that do have EX in a perimeter are Spartacus in Endurance, Frances Drake in Luck(pirate so why not) Hans Christan Anderson in Mana and the alter egos of BB. which are made of different goddess and its something involving the Moon-Cell which would be best to avid talking about since its an entity separate from the Grail.(its basically a giant computer on the surface of the moon) EX is only for something that can't be quantified under the normal system of the grail. Herc doesn't even have that in strength and he is the Strongest hero for that perimeter. Ex is more likely to happen for a skill then a perimeter.(such as Spartacus has Mad Enhancement of EX since his madness could not be quantified under the normal means{he is still able to speak a bit well Herc could really only growl})

well with him being bersreker best bet would be to have a passive NP like Herc's God Hand or Lancelot's one not an activated one like Excalibur. Two that come to mind for me are The Prophecy of the Wired Sisters(mainly the line "He could not be killed by a man born of woman.") which would work similer to servants like Siegfried's Armor of Fanfur, or Achilles both who are invincible unless hit in their weak point.(the heel and heart for Achilles and the back for Siegfried.) and the Curse of Macbeth which would relate to the whole bad luck part of the play or something like that.

another couple that might work Macbeth(Shakespeare's Macbeth was inspired by a real person) and Orion from Greek Myth(he could work for archer as well.)

Hmm... Well for the RP I did my berserker was Dr.Jakel/MR.Hyde it pretty much is self explanatory of his NP. Look into Norse mythology you might find a good one from that.

good job Sheep much better then what I could have explained. though on thing i need to ask is about witchcraft if its a different type of magecraft or what. then there' s the whole magic origin and magic type i can't seem to quite get ah that's no fun well hopefully you enjoy reading it anyway Notus.

If he as a specific thing from his legend to why he would have higher magic resistance then you should keep it higher then. C would work since that's what Nero had as hers and that was only because she was a Saber.

then defiantly it would be part of his NP if its his mount as Rider and is specific to his legend.

yeah some thing like that could work i guess if say the Charisma is ranked higher but in general the two don't mesh well. and well since Charisma is not only inspires but also makes good leader well the other leads to one working alone but can't achieve anything on their own....ugg it feels like my brain is just going in circles with this. anyway feel free to pm them to me if you want if anything at least i am good at making servants i hope.(it the only thing i feel i did right in my RP) yep perfect way to keep your brain sharp or turn it into mush.

His personal skill; Nature of a Rebellious Spirit (Localized as Restless Soul) gives one the temperament of a lone wolf, unable and unwilling to settle in one place or serve one master. This person will never be able to follow greatness, yet is incapable of finding greatness on his own. This skill negates the effect of Charisma skills of the same rank.The skill was sealed as this skill will very likely make him betray his Master. It is a rare example of using the correct characteristics of the Berserker class. Honestly it would seem unlikely that one servant could have both since it seems that it would cancel out each other. since a lone wolf really doesn't inspire people which is what Charisma does. and that would be a wast of two slots for personal skills. and most likely like it said that servant would kill the master he was summoned by. also in this case the non localized name really changes the meaning of it since restless and rebellious are to different things.(translation fail) http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Berserker_%28Fate/Extra_Rin_route%29 this is the link to the page that has this on it. hopes that helps.

yeah i understand that though for me the ability to summon something dangerous like say a pack of hunting dogs would be more in the area of a NP then a personal skill. a personal skill in my head is something that the heroic spirit is capable of on there own. like you wouldn't have a weapon as a personal skill but you would have weapon training as one. i hope I'm explaining that right and you get where I'm coming from with it.

so looking at your Rider.... Bfroger class and personal skill ranks usually would not be affected by having a weaker master.(Sabers are the same for Shirou who is a very poor master and Rin who is a very strong master). also a B rank in Charisma skill(which in its self is a very rare skill) would put your Rider on the same level as Saber. the Charisma skill is usually only given to servants who where rulers. B rank is for a servant who didn't have enough influence to rule a empire but enough for one who ruled a single country. and your riders magic resistance(which out of the four classes that get that skill theirs is usually the weakest) of b is only a rank down from sabers whose magic resistance is the highest out of most every servant because of her dragon blood. though i could be entirely wrong with my brain here given i don't know who your rider is but he seems a bit off to be ruler. and familiars for a personal skill is a bit weak given a caster or most Mages can summon a simple familiar with out much problem.