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@Alistair Well what else do you have to say about me? I’ll stay in the spotlight as much as you’d like, it won’t change anything but the fact that you’re playing into the outlaws’ hands of turning us all against each other. There’s one more left and to be all on their own I feel like they’d do everything, more now than ever, to stay away from the whole discussion going on here. -
@Alistair As for someone who rarely gets mafia roles in these games, my thought process is not always the strongest because I’m clever but more in a deduction and detective way. Also relying on a fake gun would be silly as the one who possesses it has the ability to just not use it. Also to bring them into the spotlight in case Susanoo happens to also be innocent, what about Refty’s 2 other suspects? Paul and ECT? I kind of suspect ECT now that I think about it. Rather quiet this time around, Idk...
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Woah well this just got interesting. As for being suspicious of me, that’s really putting yourself at risk Amber and not at a great cost if you ask me. The mafia most likely wants me dead but sees you all turning on me so theyre focusing other targets and relying on you all to turn on me and lynch another fellow town member. I feel like their two potential targets tonight will be me and Amber if we are not lynched. I have less suspicion about you now Amber but I do think you’re making a mistake if you take that 50% chance on me. Think about it, Refty suspects me all game, the fabricator decides it’s a good idea to give him a fake gun. This could make some suspect me (or any of his other suspects) as the fabricator trying to quietly off him but if I was a mafia role I would have killed Refty right away in all honesty. That much suspicion and conversation is a huge risk. I have an important role to you all. I suspected Lykos and didn’t vote him as I knew he wouldn’t be healed and would bleed out. He’s honest but fully and I was able to see through his lies. That being said I myself am in as much danger as the others. The coyote needs to go down then we can wrap this game up with ease but until then? It’s a blind game of darts and us taking shots in the dark is our only real option. We need to think about other suspects rather than me, Refty suspected me all game and stillndidnt die until just now, why would I be Mafia if he was allowed to live this long? Edit: @Alistair I was a bit busy when day three went up so I couldn’t speak much or read anything until now. Susanoo’s defense is eerie that’s a fact.
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@Alistair Alistair Alistair's Someone Who is Not Alistair?
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I have been suspicious of Jace. As for Seal, not so much (still a little though). A third party suspicion that I'll leave in the air for others to consider is DigitalAmber with that coyote situation. Seeing as time is running out and Jace & Seal are our two contenders as of now I will go with my gut and pick who I feel more suspicious, and as Alistair said, hard to read. If you have anything to persuade my vote in another direction feel free to give your opinions. Eliminate - Jace Stormkirk
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There are only 3 that could've done so: Venus (most recently killed), Drakyle (lynched), & Megagun (first night killed). Whoever did it that's pretty crappy in all honesty. And I am stating your argument isn't 100% as valid as you make it seem. Sure it makes you much less suspicious and I am not currently suspicious of you in the first place; however, it's just not an argument you can use to state that we should trust that you are in fact town. You made a correct guess with no real evidence, just from reading and stating your analysis from Drakyle's posts. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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@Refty365 I was literally just stating that you can't just say "Oh I am leading discussions and talking a lot therefore I am not Mafia" and be 100% safe. It's kind of ridiculous because a mafia member could do exactly what you did with the fact that Drakyle didn't do anything to support their side.
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Weird how Jace says he'll vote for who the town votes instead of making his own decisions... something an outlaw may try to do in order to seem innocent. It seems too planned if you think about it. Votes for Anti then chooses to allow his next vote to be decided by the rest of us. Idk seems very strange to me. As for defending ourselves I feel like the only one with a real alibi is Anti. The rest of us don't have much to really say other than the standard "Don't kill me I'm discussing a lot so I'm town." (Looking at Refty on that). Then we have Digital with role questioning leaving the possible coyote role. They can deny it; however, anyone can deny anything that's how the game goes. We're all slightly suspicious with not much we can say to defend ourselves, that's just unfortunately how it is. That being said, of course pulling a Drakyle isn't smart but none of us want to get Alistair'd either. It's quite a predicament :/
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@Refty365 I'm just saying like there are others to be wary of not just me. As for Digital that is true, we could have found the coyote but it also could just be a coincidence. I'm honestly like suspicious of the two who refrain from speaking in these discussions but my luck if we end up voting for them they're either townies or get modkilled and it's a waste of a lynch which created a predicament. @Shadowsusanoo & @Seal Where have you guys been? Some input might be helpful.
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@Refty365 I don't know if you've noticed but for the most part you're only going after me, and you seem to be the only one going after me. You said it yourself you have others to be suspicious of so why me? We also have to look at those who aren't saying anything at all entirely: Shadowsusano & Seal. Is it perhaps to try and avoid incriminating themselves? As for me defending myself, you can't roleclaim in this mafia game it's a death wish in itself. So what do you want me to say other than I'm not an outlaw? The coyote will get me if I say what town role I am and the outlaws will very much so target me if I make it clear as to which potential roles I may be. I promise you it's valuable, but we can only speak in circles and riddles such as how Lykos is. If he were to make it more obvious than 3 roles (which already gives the coyote a 33.3% chance to get a kill which isn't high but still dangerous) he would basically be a goner. Basically, there are a couple others to think about as well, not just me. And there is not much we can give to help each other out without risking our own lives. We can't even really know who Venus or Drakyle were as whoever has that information would be the Undertaker. Edit (Digital's post didn't show up before): @DigitalAmber How do you know the gunsmith isn't giving out guns? I recall you saying they should refrain from it to render the Fabricator useless yesterday but unless you're stating you're the gunsmith yourself, we can't truly be sure. Of course, using a gun wouldn't be logical because we can't tell if it's real or not until the Barkeep determines such. But it is still not something we can know 100%.
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@Refty365 Give it a rest, I was not defending Drakyle as I have stated before already. Anti was acting very nervous in defending himself and trying to prove his innocence which is something mafia members may do in mafia games. You can be suspicious of me all you'd like; however, there's a difference between defending and just seeing sides and arguments differently. As for me voting? You don't know why I voted because you're not in my head, I voted for Drakyle as when he continued to speak he seemed more and more as if he didn't care to be killed regardless. That leaves the two suspects and their "personalities:" Anti: The antsy suspect wanting to clear his name at any cost & Drakyle: The suspect who could care less which way the vote goes. Both had reasons to potentially be Mafia members. Drakyle further pushed himself into the spotlight and made it an easier pick for all of us. Had Drakyle been anyone else with a different personality this could have gone an entirely different way. If this doesn't clear everything up for you I honestly don't know what to tell you. Side note your multi-posting is quite a lot you can always edit and just put "Addition: " under and put in reason for editing: "added more thoughts" rather than posts back to back but you do you. @DigitalAmber This means we lynch Alistair today right? Lol I kid I kid @Alistair Cactuar from Final Fantasy probably could
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@Refty365 The way you worded that question is confusing so I'm not really sure what you're asking. It seems the outlaws didn't target Anti because I guess they don't find him really too important? It's clear to us all at this point he's a townie, as we made the correct decision on going for Drakyle instead. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but then again with little information I tend to do that for the most part anyways. I give others a chance to prove themselves until true evidence comes up which in this case, none really did; however, Anti did really fight for himself there. As for the outlaw target from tonight, why would they go for Venus? It's a shame we don't know which role (other than our own personal one & the Saloon Owner) was lost tonight. Maybe they were just thinking Venus got another healing role like from previous mafia games since it seems like that is how some like to play the game. We'll have to see what everybody thinks before coming to a logical conclusion here.
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Looks like I'm out of time and have to make a decision. The discussion fits voting Drakyle to be more beneficial to us than Anti. Eliminate - Lord Drakyle
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@Venus It was moreso why did you go for Anti right away but since you cleared that up I don't see much of a reason to think differently now.
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In all honesty it's more just let's not be so hasty rather than protecting them, who knows maybe I will vote for them. I'm just saying being quick to judge can result in a horrible decision, I'm thinking of what's happened in a previous game where that mistake was made and the town killed their own nurse. If you're right in your suspicions I'll say sorry for doubting you, but it's not like I am planning on voting for Anti over Drakyle.
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@Refty365 How do we know you're not a mafia member as well though? You could be mafia and essentially know which of the two is mafia and which isn't so you'd vote towards the townie to save your fellow outlaw for one more night. Which could also bring @Venus into question from switching their vote. Doesn't necessarily mean you're mafia or town but it raises suspicion in my eyes.
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@Refty365 I think none of us should base our decisions based off of past games, I've made said mistake before and it has never ended well. Just thought I'd throw that information out there before you continue this way of thinking. As for the current discussion going on, @Lord Drakyle brings a good point that fingers should not be pointed it's one's word against the others. If one of the two is mafia, and we do tip the scale to one or the other we have a 50/50 shot to get a fellow townie instead. This would obviously create an easy target for the next night/day; however, if said mafia member is an Illusionist they'll use their special ability then to strike and could possibly take out a crucial town member before they fall. If neither are voted for, then who is voted for is a random choosing which will create an even harder case to crack. Potentially a bigger mess as well. I still refrain from casting my vote as I am having trouble analyzing who may be the mafia member. Anti is much more quick to defend himself and seems worried about their lynching while Drakyle is more calm and neutral about the situation. I'm all for the rush to kill someone but with little information we could end up with someone as important as the doctor being dead.
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It's pretty clear both are the prime suspects and most likely one did it. I have an idea of why you jumped into voting right away and can agree it's a good reasoning (him trying to state both are innocent seems suspicious because who else could've done it?) But @Venuswhy so quick to vote? I'd like to hear your reasoning as it could help me and the others on our decision
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I was half joking cause of the whole sjw saying it's problematic but to be fair there is a lot of like bad things surrounding the real Columbus and all that jazz. But as ya said it really depends whom you're talking to which goes for a lot of different things.
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*Intensely stares at the Indian role* Isn't that kinda problematic considering they're more Native Americans even though they're called Indians I'll join why not
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[Epilogue] WitchHunt! - Coven Win
Quinn replied to Daniel Blackworth's topic in Reborn Mafia Club's General Mafia
So many details to this one it seems so hefty but also very interesting and a much harder mind game than the typical Mafia. Seeing as I will be starting a new job soon and will be very busy with little time to put into helping analyze and act during this game I'm afraid I'll have to step aside for this one. Good luck to all those who do join though! -
Welp congrats to the cult, well played to Lykos. As Dive said many of us on the alliance could have played our roles better but it's alright you can't win em all
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The only way this could backfire is if Lykos is a follower of N rather than N himself, which in turn still helps us slightly. But I believe he is telling the truth. [Final Vote] LykosHand
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He also gave me a bit of information that cicada is the last Mafia. Considering he has not really recruited any Pokémon alliance members and we suspected cicada to begin with it checks out. So that could be our target the the next day or even tonight. I can reveal his role next night however I won't be able to speak the next day. @Magister Divergent Can I still vote during that period though? If I can vote and you see me vote cicada that's all you'd need to know. But I'd need protection this next night for this to work EDIT: @Cataline My action allowed me to chat directly with Lykos personally and I asked a question that wasn't related to the Mafia game that could help me solidify if he was N. One of his favorite games is Black which N originated from. And then in regards to actual Mafia he believes me and Megagun are the key to winning this and he was heading to us next. I believe this is the right move it checks out logically.
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Alright I've confirmed it. LykosHand is N. Eliminate LykosHand. He was going to convert me to a cultist tonight tonight but I stopped him in his tracks. Long story short to put an end to the cult he must go today.