N8theGr8

Well, there's several good water types introduced this generation. Gamageroge (the frog thing) is decent and it gets some useful abilities, Abagoora (the turtle) is one of the very few to get the amazing move Shell Break, and he can actually use the Special Attack boost in a mix set. I've seen Burungeru (Pringle face ghost) used quite a few times, working as a staller for the team. Even better at stalling is Mamanbou (bigger Luvdisc), who has monstrous defensive stats and can always support the team, and last, but arguably best, there's Kerudio (Water horse), who gets the amazing Mystery Sword to take out Blissey, making it a monster special threat if it sets up, with its great Special Attack and even better Speed. This isn't even mentioning the +9000 Water types that were improved this generation. But, anyhow, time for my analysis of the three... Let me start off by saying I haven't seen one of these be used yet. [i]Maybe[/i] once, but they're just so meh compared to the rest of this generations' monsters. Even still, they get a stat that's over 100 (Base 101 Speed), but that's pretty much uniform on Pokemon in this generation. Base 98 Attack and Special Attack are really not too shabby, but like I said, when you look at the Base 135 Attack of Hihidaruma and the Base 129 Special Attack of the previously mentioned Kerudio, it just isn't viable enough to compete with this generation's awesome sweeping power. There are great boosting moves there for them, and they have an OK movepool to work off of...but they're just not hitting hard enough. Porygon2 can eat all of their best attacks up for breakfast and hit hard with a Special Attack or just cripple them. Nattorei can easily take on the ones that aren't fire, and anything with Flash Fire (or even better, Heatran), eats him up. Obviously, there are options out there, as there are for almost any Pokemon (Unown), but there's just better options, plain and simple. Sure, you're the only Water type who gets Nasty Plot, or one of the very few, but who needs it when your base Special Attack and Attack are outclassed by almost every offensive Pokemon this generation, and that's not even mentioning the pretty bad defensive stats that they have. And there are my 2¢. More than anything, I'd run a Nasty Plot set, if you really want to use these guys. If not, there's better options.

1. Especially with the League not being on, more tourneys is always a good thing. I understand that we were taking a break, but it's been like 1.5 months now. Restart them, and also, I'd be willing to just throw together some unofficial ones with no prizes, aka just for fun, that are themed. 2. Featured Pokemon sounds great, a link to it can be the topic, or even a channel on Reborn to discuss it. It would need to include... -Analysis -Movesets -Synergy with other Pokemon -Some others I can't think of Also, we could pick Pokes that appeal to us, instead of the ones that Smogon feels are most important. 3. Pffffft, I use "My Controls" to edit my signature and avatar, and rarely the PM checker. But really, PMs aren't that necessary. But yeah, the rest of it is next to NU for me. Also, I'd be more than willing to help make cards (I've brought this up multiple times before). I have all of the "perfect candidate" qualities you listed except some FTP experience, but I have a lot of spare time (usually), and I'm sure I'd have no trouble learning. Also, I'm not sure that I'd fit as mature. :3

Knight, you're 20 now and I hope your birthday is a great one!

Ooooh, it's Halloween time (almost), and I'm a familiar face if you didn't like reading books as a little kid: It's not a question of who I am as much as where I am. OMFG I LURRRV BEIN ONE OF THOS PICWHORES Oh, and that black stripe? Imagine it's red. I couldn't find an all red/white striped shirt.

Will wins because of the inevitable anger that the manual breathing brings. I was waiting for someone to say the Automod, though...

Edited the name of this thread because it's pretty much a RMT.

(─‿‿─) [b]Trolltastic[/b] ~Of being a troll ~Attempting to piss somone off ~Dorogon

Replaced Kirikizan with Warubiaru.

This thread is for us sharing our teams we use on Pokemon online. A description of what each Pokemon is used for is preferred but not necessary. Also, please post your teams for us to try out by copy/pasting the Export button in the TeamBuilder. Then, just import it in and try out someone else's strategy for fun! Feedback, of course, is welcome on any team and suggestions are always welcome as well. Here's my team right now for an example: Nova (Deoxys-S) @ Focus Sash Trait: Pressure EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Stealth Rock - Spikes - ExtremeSpeed - Taunt Bruce (Hitmonlee) (M) @ Liechi Berry Trait: Unburden EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Substitute - Reversal - Stone Edge - Meditate Herm (Iwaparesu) (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Broken Armor EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Shell Smash - Stone Edge - X-Scissor - Earthquake Kiba (Warubiaru) (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Earthquake Spiral EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Crunch - Stone Edge - Pursuit Shinku (Gyarados) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Earthquake Spiral EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Earthquake - Stone Edge Helheim (Shandera) (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Nitro Charge - Fire Blast - Shadow Ball - Energy Ball And now for the description: [b]Deoxys-S[/b] [img]http://www.arkeis.com/images/animations/386_s.gif[/img] The lead. You're fast, fast, and more fast, stopping sweepers from setting up and stopping entry hazards from being laid. Luckily, Deoxys hasn't been banned yet, so he's fine in normal play...for now. [b]Hitmonlee[/b] [img]http://www.arkeis.com/images/animations/106.gif[/img] Reversal sweeper. Hitmonlee has a clear cut advantage over other reversal users: Unburden. Doubling speed lets you hit a whopping 546 after Unburden, which outspeeds just about everything, and a lot with a scarf. Meditate is replaceable with another attack, but I like being able to set up further if my sub isn't broken. [b]Iwaparesu[/b] [img]http://www.arkeis.com/images/animations/558.gif[/img] Shell Break/Smash. An amazing move, especially when paired with Breakable Armor. What Breakable Armor does is lowers your Defense one stage after a contact attack. In return, it picks up +1 Speed after said contact. Amazing, seeing as you can get +3 Speed and +2 Attack in one turn with Shell Break. Also, this thing takes physical hits well, so provided you're slower, setting up shouldn't be a problem. [b]Warubiaru[/b] [img]http://www.arkeis.com/images/animations/553.gif[/img] The revenge killer. He's got a scarf so he outspeeds a LOT. With Overconfidence, Warubiaru can easily come in and take out whatever was bothering my team and snowball until his attack is destroying everything. Also, he looks completely kickass. [b]Gyarados[/b] [img]http://pkmn.net/sprites/hgss/male/130.png[/img] (No Animated yet on Arkeis ) Gyarados needs no explanation. Especially now with Overconfidence, Gyarados is more of a threat than ever. He's just monstrous if you let him set up...and he's bulky enough to set up, provided there's no Electric moves. Gyarados is probably one of the best DDance users as of now, rivaling Salamence and Ononokusu. [b]Shandera[/b] [img]http://www.arkeis.com/images/animations/609.gif[/img] Shadow Tag is a frightening ability, especially with a Pokemon that has 2 immunities and several resistances. Let Shandera Nitro Charge and he's outspeeding a lot, while still "fire"ing off powerful special attacks. As I said, feedback is more than welcome and I encourage you to post your own teams!

Alright, time for some more then... [b]Tyranitar[/b]- As dangerous as ever, but with a new partner who benefits greatly from his Sandstorm: Doryuuzu. Together they form an amazing core that little can brag about being able to tear through. Of course, Tyranitar still has the amazing boosting move, Dragon Dance, and also has options like Scarf. Tyaranitar's still going to stay on top, being a monstrous threat. [b]Zuruzukin[/b]- AKA Lizardpants, this guy is going to be a pretty big threat due to its bulkiness, access to Bulk Up [i]and[/i] Dragon Dance, amazing movepool, and fantastic abilites. All three of its abilites (Shed Skin, Intimidate, and Overconfidence) are fantastic and none should be overlooked. Also, he's blessed with the near unresisted Dark/Fighting STAB, which also warrants great STAB including Hi Jump Kick, Drain Punch, Crunch, and an extremely wide variety of other options. Zuruzukin's a Pokemon that should not be overlooked on any team. [b]Feraligatr[/b]- He's still an inferior Gyarados, but this generation he brings his own ability to the table: Encourage. This boosts Waterfall, Ice Punch, [i]and[/i] Rock Slide's power in exchange for their secondary effects being taken away. As cool as this is, Feraligatr's UU for sure this generation with even more things hitting hard. [b]Whiscash[/b]- Ordinarily, I'd say, GTFO Whiscash, you suck. There's so many better dancers out there. But this time, Whiscash gets a new toy: Hydration. Now he can function as a bulky sweeper, resting off any damage while slowly speeding up and getting stronger. Kind of like Zuruzukin with Shed Skin, but a way different movepool and more reliable Rest. I think he's still UU as well, though, due to Gyarados being inevitably king of the physical Water sweepers. [b]Tropius[/b]- Another Pokemon with a fun new ability: Harvest. What does Harvest do, you may ask? It lets you use a Berry infinitely in one battle. This opens up a whole slew of new possibilities, including immunity to status with Lum and using Salac as a psuedo-Speed Boost. Even though his stats are horrid, Tropius could do a bit of damage in this generation's UU. [b]Crawdaunt[/b]- He gets DDance too, you know, but he's yet another dancer with an amazing ability: Adaptability. In case you don't remember, this changes the STAB multiplier from 1.5 to 2, which is exactly what gave PoryZ all of his hype in 4th gen. Water + Dark is good STAB, too, which hits a giant amount of Pokemon for neutral damage. [b]Charizard[/b]- Sorry Charizard, I love ya, but everything you used to do has been completely outclassed. Hihidaruma Belly Drums better with a terrifying attack, there's so many better Dragon Dancers, and there's even more special sweepers out there. He gets Solar Power, but coming off of 109 special attack, it's not much to fear. And that covers all of the Dragon Dancers.

"[b]Ononokusu[/b]" and "Considerable threat" don't work together. With a scarf he's outspeeding many things at +1 and with that incredibly sexy 147 Attack, this guy will fucking rip you to shreds. And now for the others... [b]Garchomp[/b]- Still is good, but Ononokusu is a way better scarf user. Plus, Ono gets DDance, something Garchomp's always dreamed of having. Chomp is still faster with a scarf, but you don't need speed as much as you do power when you're a scarfed user. (See Heatran and Sazandora) [b]Salamence[/b]- Yeah, because we all know how [i]badly[/i] Mence needed an improvement. Giving a Dragon Overconfidence is a bad idea, and GF also gave the OP OC to Gyarados, a beast who was at the very top of the 4th Gen OU metagame. Sure, Mence doesn't get Outrage with Overconfidence, but Dragon Claw can be better in some areas as it does not leave you locked in and doesn't confuse you afterwards, which just seems better if you're trying to sweep. Plus, who needs extra power when you get +1 ATK after EVERY KILL? [b]Dragonite[/b]- He's getting worse, I'm sad to say. He's not the best special dragon anymore with the inclusion of Sazandora who can Draco Meteor with the force of a small city and he didn't get the incredibly overpowered Overconfidence that Salamence got. He still has good defenses and Dragon Dance, but now that this metagame is faster than ever, even more things will outspeed a +1 Dragonite, even if it's Jolly. [b]Flygon[/b]- I haven't even seen one yet. Why? Because there's no need for it anymore. Levitate's a good ability, but he still has the 4x weakness to Ice that Ononokusu just doesn't have, making Ono better overall. Even if Ono gets banned, Mence is going be king Dragon with the kickass Overconfidence. [b]Altaria[/b]- Cloud Nine, Cloud Nine, and more Cloud Nine. Altaria works as a fine supporter with its good defenses, but Cloud Nine is what will keep it from falling even further than what it was. Now that weather is seen on 50% of all teams, it's awesome to have a PKMN that can stop weather in its tracks. [b]Kingdra[/b]- Oh boy. Kingdra's loving Politoed. Like, he wants to make mad sex with it because Politoed just gave him the biggest advantage ever: infinite rain. And Infinite rain + Good defenses + Good attack [i]and[/i] special attack + Doubled speed + 2x Water attacks + Fucking DRAGON DANCE = A threat. A huge, huge, monstrously incredible threat. It rivals Doryuuzu in that while Doryuuzu has Swords Dance, Kingdra can boost his speed even further to outspeed just about everything ever created ever WHILE boosting his great Attack. Plus, Kingdra can work as a fine specs/life orb special sweeper that outspeeds everything and has access to UNRESISTED STAB, except for Nattorei and a few others. [b]Sazandora[/b]- Love this guy. Fucking love him. FINALLY we get a specially based pseudo-legend. Oh, and lets not forget his good attack, decent speed, and DEFENSES THAT EQUAL SWAMPERT'S. This guy will be the new Mixmence, provided he can either get Baton Passed speed or have Paralysis support. Oh, and lets not forget that Scarf Draco Meteor that hits like an airplane and the Specs Draco Meteor that hits like a small moon. Oh, and he is immune to Ground and he DOESN'T HAVE A 4x WEAKNESS. HOORAY! [b]Kurimugan[/b]- UU for sure, if not NU. I haven't even seen him yet because he fucking sucks. No Dragon Dance, no swords dance, hell, not even an AGILITY OR ROCK POLISH. He gets Claw Sharpen. Fucking Claw Sharpen. Oh, and while Sazandora's got Levitate, Kingdra's got Swift Swim, and Salamence gets FUCKING OVERCONFIDENCE, Kurimugan gets...Rough Skin. There's no other way to describe him as a disgrace to the king attackers, Dragons, and further to the point, a FAIL. And, even though he's technically not a dragon... [b]Gyarados[/b]- Oh boy. Gyarados gets Overconfidence like brother Salamence (or sister, for that matter). For the first time ever, I'm using JOLLY GYARADOS because of the fact that he doesn't need any more power. And now with the new Lightningrod, Zapdos or Raichu could make fine fine partners for Gyarados, boosting their good special attack for sweeping potential. Unlisted Dragons... [b]Lati@s[/b]- Obviously, Soul Dew will be banned from Non-Uber play. But...these guys now have competition with the inclusion of Sazandora, who is Specially more powerful than Latias and just 5 points shy of tying Latios. Sazandora's a bit slower as well, but he has more HP to make up for that, along with a higher Attack. Specially, Latios just about equals Sazandora with a lower HP but a higher Special Defense, but Latias tops it with a base 130 Special Def. Physically, Sazandora beats out both with a higher HP and a Defense that ties Latias's and is more than Latios. Obviously, these two are still going to be used often due to great stats and a cool movepool, but I think they're staying OU this generation, with Soul Dew banned. [b]Kyurem[/b]- Also known as the Ugly-faced Ice Dragon, Kyurem is a bit...no, really underwhelming. Obviously, it's got a great Attack and Special attack and is a bit bulky...but it's even slower than Sazandora. Also, it lacks Dragon Dance, Nasty Plot, Swords Dance, Calm Mind...like Kurimugan, it only gets Claw Sharpen. Pathetic. At least Sazandora gets Cheer Up to further boost its mix sweeping potential. But I haven't even mentioned the most pathetic part about it: It's "signature" move, Frozen World, sucks. You'd expect Frozen World to be stronger than Blizzard, but believe it or not, Frozen World barely passes half of Blizzard's base power. At 65, it's really REALLY underwhelming, even if it does have a nice effect of lowering speed by 2 stages. Essentially, Frozen World is a better Icy Wind, which is a move no one uses. I suspect Kyurem to be the first of the "3rd game mascots" (with the others being Rayquaza and Giratina; Suicune's already part of a mini-legend trio like the Regis, Elemental Birds, and the Mesprit trio) to have a shot at making only OU. It's stats are good, but Ononokusu is both stronger and faster physically and Latios ties but is faster specially. It has nice bulk, but it's cursed with a weakness to Fighting, Rock, and Dragon which all are extremely common in OU and Ubers. Oh, and Ono and Latias get better abilites as well. Overall, Kyurem is just way too underwhelming and it looks as if it will only be OU, if that.

Heheh, well, welcome to Reborn! Hopefully you'll find great friends and we can all enjoy our time together! Oh, and a little tip: Leave your sanity at the door, it kinda gets crazy around here.

[img]http://www.arkeis.com/images/animations/560.gif[/img] Ordinarily, he'd be a huge threat, but seeing as everything in 5th Gen hits like a tank and then some, he's kinda meh. And the animated sprite is from [url="http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html"]here.[/url]

Thanks Mash...that meant a lot, but Doc's right. I gotta shape up. Although I'm back, at least for now, I don't think I'll ever be like I was. For better or for worse, I don't even know, but then again, who does? I had a hell of a night with the closest people to what friends are...and I'm in a great mood. So yeah, I'm a bitch, I'm a crybaby, but I'm a [i]happy[/i] bitchy crybaby...at least for now.

[quote]If we really didn't care, I think the composition of the replies in this topic would be considerably different.[/quote] [quote]Because at this point, you're not worth my time.[/quote] And with that point, I make my leave.

Sorry Ame, Doro isn't helping your cause.

Good has come out of it; I haven't been involved. You all would not be able to care less if I left and life would move on. Usually when I open my mouth I sound like an asshole, offend someone, or both.

Because I already looked at yours and translated it. I don't ignore people. Although I often tend to be ignored. I don't even know why I'm answering these questions. I want to leave, be free, and let you all be rid of me.

[quote name='dorogon' post='5801' date='Oct 21 2010, 09:46 PM']N8 may I ask you one question why do you take everything so seriously?[/quote] Oh, you really want to know? I take everything seriously because I have no idea what's reality and joke anymore. After years and years of heartless jokes of people pretending to be friends, asking for you to tell them something so they can laugh behind your back, and just plain cruelty, I take everything as negative as I can because at this point that's usually what's most accurate. Now fuck off.

I'm sick of this...every time I come here now I'm either beaten or everyone says I'm mean or both. I can't do anything right and all I do is annoy Reborn now. I didn't want it to have to come to this...but whatever. Just like real life. Bye.

Meh, fair enough.

I feel as if you did that runners up thing just to bash me, as usual.

Giant trollface was here and broke things. ANYTHING.

Alright, how the hell do I NOT win when I was the only one with an original answer? RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*10 hours later*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/pogmo/fragile.jpg[/img] My answer makes no sense but I like it anyway.

This is what you find at 12:30 AM...and I think it's fucking amazing. WAIT WHAT YOU CAN'T EMBED YOUTUBE VIDEOS??!?!?!?!?! Grrrrrrrrrrrr... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofPsyA45b1Q"]You can't deny this video's epicness.[/url]