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  1. I'm suspecting Alaris due to a combination of their attempt to put someone under suspicion due to a misunderstanding, as well as them being roleblocked on a day that no murders occured (I know that they can argue that a mafia member wouldn't out themselves like that, but one can argue that that line of reasoning might mean they do it to seem like they were the one being attacked instead). Also, why, Lykos?
  2. Any reason why Lia was seen as 3rd party, but Dive was shown as either mafia/3rd party? Anyway, due to the death of the Bean, I need to change my vote, so... [Eliminate] Alaris
  3. Oh right, the proposal decline. Seems kinda weird to propose D1, but equally odd to get declined. It raises my suspicion of walpurgis a fair bit, and will likely colour any further reads I make of them, but for now, especially given the earliness of the proposal, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt. (apologies for probably doublepost, but since edits are frowned upon...)
  4. As it turns out, sarcasm doesn't translate well to text (maybe add more hyperbole, or some italics). In terms of my personal suspicions, whilst I'm otherwise sketchy on the 50/50 odds of Sheep being non-town, I have to concede that those odds are better than anyone else at the moment, and the inability to abstain means that I feel somewhat obligated to agree with Lord Drakayle. I am perfectly willing to shift my vote in light of new info, but in the absence of anything else, I'm afraid the Sheep gets my vote. [Eliminate] Psychic Bean Sheep
  5. Same as Alistair for me (mainly because I'm more interested in the next 3 games in the queue, and putting myself up for potentially 4 simultaneous games will prove too much hassle).
  6. TFW you get killed 2 games in a row. At least I didn't get bullied like in Shining Bright. I guess I'll leave you with this, which has no relevance to anything, but may provide a good pic for someone else.
  7. Not for nothing, but you know there's no chance in hell a tie works, right, @walpurgis? 2 mafia still have the ability to vote, so the only way a tie even works is if both of us are town anyway.
  8. I mean, it's too late to prevent the mislynch now (foiled by playing video games), but at the very least I should show due diligence, and hopefully get some support. [Unvote] Paul25 [Eliminate] Lord Drakayle And I guess since Alisae memed on their way out, I should too:
  9. I haven't claimed up until now @NickCrash, but I'm the Leader. It's both not very helpful for town and something Mafia would likely want to kill (since it obscures their intentions, allowing them to not need to vote for each other and potentially saving one of them from a lynch), which is why I didn't reveal myself previously. However, since not revealing would simply cause undue suspicion, I'll take the risk.
  10. @Paul25 If it's not too much to ask, who're you targetting with your Oracle ability right now? I don't think it particularly changes much, I'm just curious.
  11. @Megagun Just been waiting for information/discussion to come through that make anyone a better choice for lynching, so apologies for not speaking. Actually, can you clarify what you're meaning in your discussion of Venus' analysis? In particular, you say that Sosobean visiting Drakayle means that at least one is mafia, perhaps two. However, your argument would suggest the opposite (i.e. that 1 at most is a mafia, since a mafia visiting a mafia doesn't really make any sense.). Is this just a mistake, or there something I'm not reading properly in this?
  12. @walpurgis Fair enough, I guess. Still seems weird to me, but I guess it makes sense. Anyway, with Alaris backing up walpurgis' rb claim (unless this has already been proven previously? I forget), I can agree with the Paul lynch. [Eliminate] Paul25
  13. @walpurgis It says in the role description in the OP that Strongman kill counts as the mafia's kill for the present night (which I presume refers to the night they used it on, not the night they time travelled back to). By a similar token, I would wager that a mafia member could go back to the same night multiple times (across multiple nights) to murder people. That's just making assumptions on how the rules work, though, but it would explain how 2 people got killed N0 (as would the Granny, as is previously stated - Just trying to make sense of the double murder). @NickCrash TBH, I'm not certain mafia will search for the lawyer, since we now know Corso is mafia, so they'll just be lynched during the next day after they're revived (and Lawyer is one-use). Like trying to undo Dive's lynch, it'd be helpful for mafia to do so when numbers are closer to it causing an outright win, but until then, I don't think mafia would care all that much. Rest of your plan seems reasonable.
  14. NGL, I really disagree with giving alternate win cons to town, especially in a game where that sort of information isn't immediately available. Kinda defeats the point of having town if people are arguably playing against their own team. Still, GG I guess. P.S. What Alistair should do to Jace/Eviora:
  15. At worst, we lose a vote we didn't have to find out that Alistair was lying. At best, we remove a mafia member. I can get behind this. [Unvote] Alistair [Eliminate] Venus
  16. @Mafioso Divergent What happens if there are 2 town members and C'thulu, but only 1 of the town members can vote?
  17. @Alistair Since you're suggesting that there's 2 remaining mafia, I do have a couple questions: 1. Can you confirm the running theory of mafia starting at 5 members? 2. If so, who among the culted was a mafia member? These aren't particularly relevant, I'm just curious. In terms of what Alistair said, there's nothing there that I that I can really contradict. Jace backs up the lovers line, and he's supported my own testimony against him. On the other hand, his phrasing towards C'thulu doesn't make sense (i.e. he says that purplecicada can still make someone go mad, when C'thulu in epicmafia requires being visited to do so which, if purplecicada is C'thulu, no-one has reason to visit). From Alistair's testimony (assuming you believe it) I believe there are 3 options: 1. Lynch Alistair (Today -> 4 town voters, 1 mafia voter, 1 TP voter. Jace's death day skip means that, assuming nothing else, mafia gets 2 NKs, leading to 1 town vote, 1 TP vote (with Evi and Venus still unable to vote). From there, assuming the rules work like I think they do, I think C'thulu wins [since it can't killed unless town has a killing role still available]). 2. Lynch Venus (Today -> 4 town voters, 1 mafia voter, 1 TP voter. No Jace death means only 1 NK for mafia, meaning next lynch is 3 town votes, 1 mafia vote, 1 TP vote. From here, town lynches the other two at their leisure. Town wins, assuming Alistair's information is honest) 3. Lynch cicada (Same as above, except replace TP voter with a mafia voter.) As such, assuming no other role interference, the evidence points towards lynching either Venus or cicada being town's best options. The issue being whether or not Alistair's testimony can be trusted.
  18. I mean, in Dive's case it seems somewhat irrelevant, since even if he was brought to life, he'd simply be lynched the following day (since he's a known mafia). It's something that should be known, in case mafia tries to use it to win out of nowhere, but aside from that it seems like it'll have little impact. In terms of what happens regarding their actions, I assume they get nullified. Can't say for certain, but that seems like the most reasonable answer.
  19. Well, getting this out there early, seeing as my N0 dream is now only down to one member (was visited again today, because of course I was). [Eliminate] Alistair
  20. @Anti_Hero I'm assuming that Nick is RC'ing Mortician, who then identified Dive's role (if I had to guess). Anyway, I find Alaris' rebuttal to the points walpurgis made lackluster, and the way they framed their role (that it was not a threat to the mafia) makes me inclined to believe it is either a) a mafia role, or b ) a role we can risk losing to check for the former. Add to that the defence of Dive from the previous day and arguments with a now town-proven Nick, and I can't currently see a better choice. [Eliminate] Alaris
  21. The reason I waited until today was because I figured that the previous visits were town visits (they still could be, but given the consistency, I doubt it), was still hoping to get another dream off, and I was honestly suspicious of Anti-Hero's alignment. And as I said at the time, I supported Alisae's idea so that, if I died, I could give the town someone to go after (since I would've given one of the ones that was in the dream had it come about). I admit, with hindsight, that it looked scummy, but I'm always kinda expecting to be killed in these games, so I wanted to make sure my role would be at least slightly useful. At this point, though, my best contribution is just to be upfront and give you the information I have. At least that way I've helped find something, even if I die/get visited for all eternity.
  22. ...to hell with it, I'm not getting much use out of my role at this point anyway. I'm Seal, the Dreamer. I got a N0 3 person dream (containing Alistair, sosobean and sailboat), with at least one of them being a non-town (not explicitly mafia, just not town) and have been visited (and thus blocked) every night since. With sailboat's death (and subsequent town flip) it's narrowed down to 2 people. Bit of a coinflip, but Alistair's seemed a bit more helpful to town thus far, so I'm inclined to trust him between the two (naturally, making an assumption that only one of them is non-town). [Eliminate] sosobean
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