andracass

Why are the people who are lynching opting to lynch?

@NickCrash Allow me to address your first concern. [Vote] Paul25 And you are correct. That was not an argument.

@NickCrash Corso can still be killed tomorrow. Is there any reason you're not voting paul?

@NickCrash I think I'm going to join Evi in insisting you vote.

[Vote] Detective [No Lynch]

I was going to contact Dive...who is a little dead at the moment. As for scumreading, I don't really have a nice list of people that I suspect or don't suspect. I just kind of wait for people to slip up.

I can pinky swear that I'm innocent. @NickCrash how are you making the distinction between mafia kill and vigilante kill?

@Mazino Divergent Technically, Nicki's mondo claim also went unchallenged.

hi sure nil

maybe we can split the vote again and get both Jace and Candy

...well, aside from candy, there's still two other mafias left.

@Candy mmm, nah, doesn't fit.

@Candy So you're Hifumi, then? @NickCrash I targeted Evi.

@NickCrash I didn't visit anyone; I was roleblocked.

Even then, for today at least, I'm reeeeally gonna push for getting Candy. If I'm not Toko you can always kill me tomorrow.

@Eviora Well, you kiiiiind of asked... Either way, the information was pretty much all there and I just put it together. Figured I'd save someone else the effort.

I can also literally roleclaim Toko. If anyone were to counter-claim, they'd find that it's consistent with everything that I've said so far. i wish i was junko

Byakuya has declined.

Well I'm talking to them right now, so you'll just have to give me a second.

@Eviora I'm not necessarily bringing it up as a "told you so", I'm bringing it up as a "if I'm mafia then this would be really stupid". My reasoning behind her being Monokuma was pretty much a hunch- I figured she roleblocked me because she felt I was annoying. I didn't particularly want her dead right away, and I figured that if she was lying then there'd always be today to kill her. As for Candy, she keeps saying she's town constantly. I'm betting that Kyoko would be able to verify this, hence I'm pinning Candy as Mukuro. She's also been fairly unhelpful and quickly jumped on the "lynch knightly" train. I'll ask Byakuya if I can reveal them.

During D1 I literally suggested that Nicki was Monokuma. And I'm going to get back to suggesting that Candy is Mukuro. [Vote] Candy

@Candy Again, neither of those things defeat the trap. Nick was also really into this idea when I first proposed it. I'm just kind of repeating myself now, so I think I'm going to duck out of this and hope that the argument makes enough sense to enough people. Should be enough info to get a person or two. And I'm proooooobably gonna die tonight, hence why I'm spelling this all out now.

This certainly isn't just me taking Nicki's word at face value- her being Mondo fits what I've seen. I'm also not saying that you should trust my statement that I'm town- it just happens to be a necessary assumption for my line of reasoning. That said, another person who is also roleblockable town can confirm everything I've just said, so in a way revealing my trap means I don't have any control over what other people can do with it. The point is that one of those three people is Mafia. The potential flaw posed by Alter Ego (again) is corrected if there's another person with a roleblockable town role.

@Mr. Knightly Vote me up @candy Jace and I were roleblocked. Someone on the mafia could be roleblocked if they were protected by Aoi, so it doesn't actually make someone look townish. I was counting on that assumption as a part of the trap.

@NickCrash A logical fallacy would be considering my statement to be a direct accusation. But I'll bite. Let's do this one step at a time. "That's a logical fallacy. Any role could be attempted to be roleblocked. " You're not wrong, but I don't think you understand exactly how this trap works- it's not simply about whether or not you were roleblocked, it's also about whether or not you'd even know in the first place. If you didn't use your role (see: Nicki) or do not have a role that can be "used" then you would be unable to answer my question in the first place. (Plus, if someone else claimed to be blocked, then I'd know they're lying, but that's the more basic side of the trap.) "However, even going by your logic, your role is not necessarily town. You just claim it is." I mean, I know if my role is town or not. You're free to debate it. It doesn't change the fact that at least one of us (I'll add a bit of personal risk by throwing myself into this too) is mafia. "Nicki claims to be Mondo (vigilante). It's not proven. And it's most probably a fake claim." How do you know it's a fake claim? You're certainly correct that this isn't proven, but nothing that you're saying is proven either. For example: prove it's a fake claim. "So it would be 5 people (Jace, Lykos, Nick, Andracass and Nicki) who would claim to have roleblock-able roles." First of all, Cass is fine. Technically, no one has claimed to have a roleblockable role- that itself is a claim that I'm making, and it's only one that can be debated upon me revealing that this is a trap. Until I reveal it, stating whether or not you were roleblocked is a great way to gain trust while (under normal circumstances) giving very little information. "The roles that can visit, and thus can be roleblocked are 9, not 8 (according to L'Belle Alter Ego's choice counts as a visit)." As stated before, I'd be wondering if Alter Ego's role would work like that in practice. Should it not be, then this would remain an oversight on my part, though one easily corrected for anyone else who has a blockable role. "Yet, the rush to accuse makes me think that's not really the case now. There's probably another one in that list, yet it's too early to tell." That's not what I'm doing. The case against Nicki is, in short, "you seem weird so you're maf." What I'm doing is proposing a system that's a little bit more rational.