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Pokemon Desolation Community V5 In-Game Tiers
Khrona replied to Norm's topic in Official Desolation Club's Discussions
MEOWSTIC: On the entry for Meowstic-M, the phrase "it just sets screens" is tossed around a lot but screens are extremely crucial and dramatically change the way the game is played. Meowstic is hands down the best screens setter in the entirety of Desolation as it is and opens your hands up to thousands of new strategies. If the concept of "making the game noticeably more easy" is the basis on which the list is formed, Meowstic-M makes ddance Flygon and SD Dodrio exponentially more powerful, letting the two set up in the faces of far more Pokemon than they could do without. Personally I would even put this Pokemon in the A-tier SERPERIOR: The argument for Serperior being ranked so low is because of how slow it is to ramp up but theres actually an incredibly easy solution to this problem: don't evolve it. The first two gyms of Desolation are commonly known as the two hardest fights in the entire game and they specialize on FIRE and FLYING. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say even if you did evolve Snivy, the Pokemon would end up useless even as a Servine or Serperior. If you skip the evos and beat Aderyn, the level cap immediately jumps up to level 45 while Leaf Storm is available at 43. This means you're left with one of the most powerful OU threats after the 2nd gym which single-handedly 6-0s 80% of the game. I would place this Pokemon in HIGH A-tier, maybe even S-tier DODRIO: Dodrio is arguably even better than Lycanroc-Dusk and should be ranked similarly imo. Lycanroc struggles from lack of coverage and lack of moves to set up, preferring to launch massive bursts of damage off the rip. Dodrio on the other hand, gets access to flying and fighting coverage, an incredibly terrifying combination of types as well as Swords Dance by level. Even moreso when combined with screens, it is not an uncommon occurence to see Dodrio under the protection of screens to get to +4 and wreck shop. GOGOAT: I'm not a massive fan of the comparisons between Gogoat and Torterra and think Gogoat is a huge contender for an A rank spot. Gogoat's Grass Pelt is unironically a humongous help in the early game with how common grassy and forest terrains are throughout the entirety of the game. Bulk Up and Horn Leech are a terrifying combo that under certain conditions can 6-0 fights by itself. Leech Seed for the earlier fights and eventually Milk Drink add up to an unkillable tank steamrolling Pokemon after Pokemon. Gogoat shines where Torterra falls short in that its healing methods are far more reliable and Gogoat doesn't suffer from a hilariously bad defensive typing in Grass/Ground (Mono grass is only slightly but very noticeably an improvement). I would put this mon in A-tier but I can understand possibly leaving it in high B-tier FROSLASS: Froslass is... underwhelming and should probably be moved down a lot more. Froslass' major appeals are in its ability to support more than its offensive presence. Blizzard and Shadow Ball sound great on paper but coming off of an 80 base SpAtk oftentimes is just not enough. Furthermore, one of its greatest appeals in Spikes is entirely unavailable. Froslass' biggest current appeal is being a fast Pokemon with Destiny Bond and maybe the occasional revenge kill with Shadow Ball. Maybe a solid C-tier for me MANECTRIC: Manectric. I used a Manectric in Desolation as my beach starter and was one of the worst decisions of my life. Its speed tier is only slightly above average and its damage is in the same tier as Froslass (Reminder that Blizzard is 40 power higher than Discharge). The best coverage it gets is Hidden Power for 99% of the game and Snarl near the END OF THE GAME. There is a slight power increase when you get access to Snarl and Manectite but thats far too late and really it ends up painfully mediocre for 99% of the game. What Manectric becomes is a Pokemon that can barely pick up a kill on frail waters/flyings and occasionally paralyze a Hydreigon here or there. C-tier sounds more suitable a spot imo PYROAR: While Pyroar is painfully M E H, it is one of the very few glass cannon fires. I oftentimes consider it a lesser version of Delphox which, does not sound like high praise, but its better than nothing. I'd put it in the same league as Seismitoad in terms of usefulness. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (New Additions?) ARCANINE: I can't get away from this Pokemon. In every single fangame its available ridiculously early and consistently a threat. In terms of weaknesses, it does require the trainer to wait until level 45 for Flare Blitz and Crunch and ESpeed (I'd recommend delevelling it to 34 with candies before using the Fire Stone) but when you get there? Amazing team support with Intimidate, a juicy 110 attack stat, deceptively good bulk, ESpeed, whats not to love? Gotta be an A-tier mon BUTTERFREE: Why is this Pokemon being brought up? Its nothing but a humble early route bug right? WRONG. Butterfree is a terrifying sweeper that with the right support, 6-0s fights hands down. Tinted Lens makes its dual stab of Bug/Flying near impossible to wall and access to Sleep Powder lets it effortlessly begin those 6-0 sweeps. It is rather reliant on team support however and would pair nicely with speed control or screens but that potential to exploit the ever-loving crap out of windows of opportunity is undeniably horrific. Contender for low A-tier or high B-tier. Dependent on exploiting windows or abusing opportunities opened up by the other 5 members of your team (think Reflect or Bulldoze) and running the much more powerful Tinted Lens set comes at the risk of losing out on the reliability of Compound Eyes (f12 is your friend with this Pokemon) VIVILLON: The user-friendly version of Butterfree. With a much easier base stat to work with and Compound Eyes, it has a much easier time exploiting windows in your opponent's teams. Compound Eyes brings Sleep Powder and Hurricane to 98% and 91% accuracy respectively (Wide Lens brings both to 100%). The problem with Vivillon however is that its peak strength is noticeably lower than that of Butterfree's. With this dual stab, you are far more susceptible to being hard walled but this Pokemon is great for those fights that get completely stomped on by the sheer overpowered nature of the move Quiver Dance without the big risks of Butterfree. There is the glaring issue of Sleep Powder being only accessible thru move relearner which means it only manages to catch a break upon reaching Blackview, but I would still place this Pokemon hovering around the same area as Butterfree if not only a little bit lower -
As many of you lovely beans may or may not be aware, Pokemon Desolation has an ongoing community shiny project. When it was first announced, I had said to myself: wouldn't it be fun if I made every Silvally shiny form in the style of those in Pokemon Reborn? It wasn't. The purpose of this thread is to poke and prod at all the brilliant minds of you talented gigantamaxed brained individuals out there to make the best Silvally shinies we could possibly create. I have technically made a shiny for every single one of the Silvally typings, but certain shinies are not quite up to the standard that I would like. All the forms can be separated into three categories: "just a dog on [insert typing here]", "Hey, that's pretty good", and "omg ily pls have my babies". While I'm decently confident that visually the sprites do a good enough job at displaying their typing while looking visually appealing, many of the sprites can be boiled down to dog on fire when they could be so much more. Additionally, I think it would just be more fun if the community was more involved instead of having me submit all 18 sprites. just a dog on [insert type here] hey that's pretty good. omg ily pls have my babies Here is a Google Drive link for ease of access https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cipeLEf_heW-uPdaZt-_Hcfe7erv5pK5?usp=sharing Any one of these sprites (with the exception of the Ice one cuz I didn't make it) are free to download and edit for the purpose of this project. A majority of ideas/sprites will be posted in the Pokemon Reborn Discord server in the sprite-edits channel. If you have a completed sprite, the sprite should first be posted on the Pokemon Reborn Discord and then upon the Desolation Dev Team's approval, the completed sprite should be posted as a reply to this post so that all the sprites can be kept in one place. List of Types (Completed ones are crossed out like this) For the sake of clarity, any sprites created will be credited under your name. The point of this post is to act as a call to arms to create the highest of quality sprites for Pokemon Desolation. Ideas and sprites are both equally as valuable here. Remember that the purpose of the shiny project is not to be a competition, but to be a community gathering. Ideas and sprites will inevitably not always be accepted and implemented and that at the end of the day, the purpose of this project is to have fun.
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