Sutoratosu Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hmmm... I'm beginning to think of assembling Mareek's team from mons that can be used in law enforcement and field utility instead of just pure strategy... though I don't know how plausible that might be given that's kinda sparce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboAura Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) @commander: You can freely control Tal if you need her. Just pay attention to her diva adittude Mind if I say Robert chased after Tal? Just want some 'basic introductions' while we're waiting for the battle to end. It's your choice, really, if you want Shiro to go after her instead. ( We could even say that they're worried Tal might be going to cause some trouble.) Edited October 11, 2014 by TurboAura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Mind if I say Robert chased after Tal? Just want some 'basic introductions' while we're waiting for the battle to end. It's your choice, really, if you want Shiro to go after her instead. ( We could even say that they're worried Tal might be going to cause some trouble.) I was kind of thinking about just writing Tal suddenly dissapeared along with Zuko while Robert and Shiro were busy making dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboAura Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) I was kind of thinking about just writing Tal suddenly dissapeared along with Zuko while Robert and Shiro were busy making dinner.Guess that works. We'll just apply that Whoever came back, did so with Tal 'before we noticed'. Guess the introductions will have to wait.Also, hasn't Zuko been with Henry? Just leave Tal with just herself, or are you gonna add in Kiai, Shun, or Voltage? (Choices being making the situation better or worse. Voltage would 'make the situation worse') Edit: Ok, ignore my second thing. Didn't realize Zuko headed back up to the room to retrieve Tal. Thought Tal was just going to be running out. Edited October 11, 2014 by TurboAura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 There... finally got back from behind. And I justify Erce being able of conscious thought and communicating with other mons by the fact that the anime is littered left and right with examples of it being entirely possible (just Look at the rocket's meowth, though it somehow learned English, which I still don't understand how that's even possible. And then even Ash's pikachu; A few times, it has had to negotiate with wild mons for Ash and the gang's behalf, and then there's tons of other examples that have popped up over the years.) I'm a bit against this thought process. Giving Pokemon HUMAN thoughts is generally a form of laziness. It's generally a better idea to SHOW what is going on in the pokemon's mind instead of TELLING us. I've been a bit lackluster in order to not make essay long posts. Here's a good example based upon Gypsy: Telling: Gypsy looked at the Magnemite and thought, gee, that's a delicious looking berry over there. Showing (more or less): Henry pointed to a Venonat who had her full attention on the Magnemite. She followed its rushing movements never losing site of it. Drool was coming from her mouth and Henry realized what was going on. She's probably mistaking it for an oversized berry. While that is not considered proper showing, you know what's going on in Gypsy's mind without her being portrayed as being as intelligent as a human. (I'm sure Jory or someone else could go deeper into this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Sorry for bunnying Zuko, commander. I hope you don't mind as it wasn't much and it was kind of necessary ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I'm a bit against this thought process. Giving Pokemon HUMAN thoughts is generally a form of laziness. It's generally a better idea to SHOW what is going on in the pokemon's mind instead of TELLING us. I've been a bit lackluster in order to not make essay long posts. Here's a good example based upon Gypsy: Telling: Gypsy looked at the Magnemite and thought, gee, that's a delicious looking berry over there. Showing (more or less): Henry pointed to a Venonat who had her full attention on the Magnemite. She followed its rushing movements never losing site of it. Drool was coming from her mouth and Henry realized what was going on. She's probably mistaking it for an oversized berry. While that is not considered proper showing, you know what's going on in Gypsy's mind without her being portrayed as being as intelligent as a human. (I'm sure Jory or someone else could go deeper into this). Well it's not like something I'm going to be doing very often anyway. I already know how to portray behavior in animals and mons and such, in fact, up until now I've honestly made a point of trying to portray behavior rather than giving legitimate thoughts to them. Eh, yes, techinically human thoughts for them is kinda lazy, but then again, considering the amount of effort I put in in general when RPing, I honestly think I've earned a few freebies every now and again. So every once in a while I might just say screw it and just go ahead and do it. That and the fact that it has been shown that Pokemon can potentially be as smart, if not smarter, than people. And to add on to that, Erce's thoughts can be considered a form of Perspection shift. The majority of my post are written from Mareek's perspective, his own thoughts and such, how he perceives what's going on around him. In that perspective, his partner's minds aren't portrayed, their behaviour is. With Erce's, it was pretty much vica versa; the partners minds were actively explained while The human's behaviors were only portrayed... so please, don't go preaching to me about lazy writting. Like I said, I'm not going to go doing things like this very often. and in the future it probably won't even be done through giving direct thoughts ,but instead by simply focusing more on the Pokemon. I was just posting justification for how it could be possible for Pokemon to Pokemon Communication in that form at all in case anyone was going to present arguments of faulty logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 How much longer 'till we get to Devin's house ;o; Being unable to do anything is boring... It's already said twice. After Jacob's battle. I'm sure none of you would appreciate if I called a battle short and just moved on. You can start a conversation with others in the meantime. (Which I will interrupt if it holds up the story) I'm a bit against this thought process. Giving Pokemon HUMAN thoughts is generally a form of laziness. It's generally a better idea to SHOW what is going on in the pokemon's mind instead of TELLING us. I've been a bit lackluster in order to not make essay long posts. Here's a good example based upon Gypsy: Telling: Gypsy looked at the Magnemite and thought, gee, that's a delicious looking berry over there. Showing (more or less): Henry pointed to a Venonat who had her full attention on the Magnemite. She followed its rushing movements never losing site of it. Drool was coming from her mouth and Henry realized what was going on. She's probably mistaking it for an oversized berry. While that is not considered proper showing, you know what's going on in Gypsy's mind without her being portrayed as being as intelligent as a human. (I'm sure Jory or someone else could go deeper into this). I agree with this, but I'm not going to tell people they can't give Pokémon thoughts. Everyone is free to find their own way of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Kinda like how I do it with Pixel and Ignition, sort of.For some reason they feel more than just NPC Pokemon that I control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 @Chim: It wasnt a serious question c: I know they gotta finish the battles, but I had to complain a bit as I was expecting the story would have moved on by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 @Chim: It wasnt a serious question c: I know they gotta finish the battles, but I had to complain a bit as I was expecting the story would have moved on by now I don't see the point in complaining. There are 14(!) students so it's normal the story gets hold up every now and then. In fact I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often since people still have a social life and timezones and everything else you can think of. And keep in mind Azery misses a lot of action with his post pre-view thing and the new PC hasn't even showed up yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted October 11, 2014 Support Squad Share Posted October 11, 2014 Kinda like how I do it with Pixel and Ignition, sort of.For some reason they feel more than just NPC Pokemon that I control. The way I see it, giving each pokemon a character itself is the best, though soon to be troublesome, approach. It just adds more depth to them and the trainer. Though, with 10 pokemon to conrtol, I have no clue how we'll control all those fuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 @Stratos: If you were the only person doing it, I wouldn't have said anything. (I didn't mean to single you out and I understand we can be busy). This RP is also very fast paced so I don't expect super quality stuff (I always miss like 3 typos per post). I just wanted to say something before a monkey see; monkey do thing happened. Just write the way you want. @Bfroger: I'm going to bunny Tal a little bit and try showing a bit of her diva side (feel free to use this strategy in your posts down the line). Also, I don't mind if you bunny my pokemon as long you keep it within reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 The way I see it, giving each pokemon a character itself is the best, though soon to be troublesome, approach. It just adds more depth to them and the trainer. Though, with 10 pokemon to conrtol, I have no clue how we'll control all those fuckers. About that; I was thinking to let a student carry max 6 Pokémon at the same time like in the games. That way you won't need to deal with all those characters at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted October 11, 2014 Support Squad Share Posted October 11, 2014 About that; I was thinking to let a student carry max 6 Pokémon at the same time like in the games. That way you won't need to deal with all those characters at the same time. I assumed that's how things would roll out usually. That said, where would the baxk up mons go? Cuz I don't think aa PC really makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 @Stratos: If you were the only person doing it, I wouldn't have said anything. (I didn't mean to single you out and I understand we can be busy). This RP is also very fast paced so I don't expect super quality stuff (I always miss like 3 typos per post). I just wanted to say something before a monkey see; monkey do thing happened. Just write the way you want. Oh. Well in that case, yeah, I agree with you about it. That could become an issue and Folks should only try to do it sparingly. About that; I was thinking to let a student carry max 6 Pokémon at the same time like in the games. That way you won't need to deal with all those characters at the same time. My question is the same as Dobby's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 My approach is to give each Pokemon a pretty simplistic personality, with one or two traits. Sarcus's Absol, in another RP, is somewhat parental; he's disciplined enough to keep the other Pokemon in line for his trainer, and usually has thoughts on what his trainer is doing at that moment. He is also concerned for the others and his Trainer, and that's basically what his character extends to other than little things like "likes to eat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 I assumed that's how things would roll out usually. That said, where would the baxk up mons go? Cuz I don't think aa PC really makes sense Oh. Well in that case, yeah, I agree with you about it. That could become an issue and Folks should only try to do it sparingly. My question is the same as Dobby's Still trying to figure it out. Anyway you should only have about 6 Pokémon after the first year. My approach is to give each Pokemon a pretty simplistic personality, with one or two traits. Sarcus's Absol, in another RP, is somewhat parental; he's disciplined enough to keep the other Pokemon in line for his trainer, and usually has thoughts on what his trainer is doing at that moment. He is also concerned for the others and his Trainer, and that's basically what his character extends to other than little things like "likes to eat." Or people can implement this. I'm doing that right now with Evan and NPC Pokémon. (I would go nuts if I had to remember all of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 So are we just waiting for interactions to finish? I think Kage and Ryan are finished for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) @Bfroger: I think I may have made myself jealous of your Snorunt. I just see Ice Skating the kind of thing she'd like doing. It's not as OP as I made it out to be (I just wanted to show what you can do with it). Henry just knows Zuko all too well. Edit: If you want me to remove it, I can just change it to a normal training method. If you want to keep it, but change a few things, just PM me the edited version and I'll use that. Edited October 11, 2014 by commander218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 @Bfroger: I think I may have made myself jealous of your Snorunt. I just see Ice Skating the kind of thing she'd like doing. It's not as OP as I made it out to be (I just wanted to show what you can do with it). Henry just knows Zuko all too well. I'm looking forward to seeing how she's gonna do ice skating without any legs in the future (Froslass~) But it's pretty cool, I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) I'm looking forward to seeing how she's gonna do ice skating without any legs in the future (Froslass~) But it's pretty cool, I like it I know it's a bit of extreme bunnying, but that was more of a gift for letting me use Tal. You have my permission to do whatever you want with the ice skating idea as it is your pokemon. (Technically, you did say to keep her diva personality in the PM). Edit: Oh crap, I can't believe I missed that Can't Type. (Computer is really laggy on weekends). Bfroger and I were discussing that Henry was secretly training Tal. I'm sure Kenny or some others are going to talk about Henry so you can either join that or witness his little training session and stop Henry in the hallways. Edited October 11, 2014 by commander218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 ^ Don't worry, I said I liked the idea and it fits her, as you said ~ She's gonna be doing piruettes, yay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted October 11, 2014 Veterans Share Posted October 11, 2014 Commander you know i'm called Az Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jory Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 The way I usually write Pokemon depends on the species. Something like Lapras that's capable of understanding and learning human speech generally thinks in words, but Teo does not. He is just as intelligent as Jacob, but because he is a Pokemon and not a human, his impression of things tends to be much more literal and grounded in the world around him rather than some complex thought process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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