Chim Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 The teacher part is seperate. Chim doesn't have to do it but I'm pretty sure he dumped RoG as an RP at this point. There is a lot of students and I think a teacher they could relate to would be an interesting change of pace. The new teacher would teach mono-typings and battling against certain types and strategies to expect. These kids might be smart, but if they can get a good view of the road ahead, they won't wander aimlessly. My proposed role might not have to even be a paid role. My role I seek is to better the students because I love helping people out and have nothing better to do with the time (my proposed OC that is). I'm getting ninja'd left and right tonight. I edited it in because I didn't see that post at first. But like I edited: A character like that would literally miss all the action. Take the upcoming Winter Cup for example: teachers don't battle in it. Also every type is already covered by teachers. Devin teaches Dragon types (amongst other things) and Phoebe covers Water. There are other teachers covering the rest but they aren't important to the story. Two of the three teachers I made don't always behave as teachers so students have the opportunity to go head to head against RoG. A freelancer who teaches battle strategies could work but again: you would miss all the action. New student is possible when we reach chapter 3 and then I make a decision if RoG stays around or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yeah, RoG can't just march in, or even sneak in, and kidnap a student to join their ranks. They're trying to stay under the radar as it is and the school would notice someone missing quickly. I may not understand how RoG fully works from the mind of Chim and some other people on this forum, but I do know that's a risky if not foolhardy move at the risk of exposure. Chim set the parameters of RoG as "they seek you, not you seek them". If RoG actually did manage to take a student or two, that student would have to have no love to the Academy and even hate all the Academy stands for and stick to that emotion with all their heart. I think as this point, I'd also like to give up on joining RoG, but not the RP. If Chim wouldn't mind, I'd like to join this RP as a new teacher to the Academy since there are enough students. I would be a new one for competitive battling to train them for gym battling and be a jack of all trades for each type to prepare the students Hopefully introducing Ymora alumnus Arius Hellickson Oh, I'm well aware of the fact that they need to stay under the radar. I'm saying about people who are off alone and easy victims. Plus, I forgot to include it but hostages were an idea of mine as well. Regardless, being a teacher would give you so much power over student PCs. It truly just offsets the balance that Chim has in all of this. You also really seem to like having some sort of "superior status" with the characters and thoughts you have brought to this, and though I have no right to say so, I'm not comfortable with it. The reason this is working so well is because everything is balanced. No PC has more power than the others. That's the beauty of this Rp in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboAura Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Chim, please tell me this isn't going to turn into a 'I trust you to raise my child' thing with Goodra, is it? I mean, Robert himself wouldn't be able to refuse, but I really want my idea of the overly gutsy Noibat. Ah well, it it does turn into something like that, I'll just ask if I'm still allowed the Noibat after/if that 'situation' happens. Edit:@Tacos: Oh great, what makes it even worse is that Robert kinda deserved the laughing. What makes that even more sad is that Robert isn't even someone who'd 'return the favor' if Ryan did something stupid. Edited November 3, 2014 by TurboAura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Chim, please tell me this isn't going to turn into a 'I trust you to raise my child' thing with Goodra, is it? I mean, Robert himself wouldn't be able to refuse, but I really want my idea of the overly gutsy Noibat. Ah well, it it does turn into something like that, I'll just ask if I'm still allowed the Noibat after/if that 'situation' happens. It's not like that, but the Goodra will stay around a bit longer. Anyway it's past midnight so I'll update tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboAura Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 It's not like that, but the Goodra will stay around a bit longer. Anyway it's past midnight so I'll update tomorrow.Oh good, atleast I don't need to rethink my 'team' as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboAura Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Sorry, laggy post. Ended up doubled accidentally. Delete if possible. Edited November 3, 2014 by TurboAura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Sorry Chim, I'll close my proposal with a final argument. First off, the teachers of any school should teach on the following parameters. A. Any info or skill necessary for the road ahead. B. Any info or skill POTENTIALLY necessary. C. Anything the students wish to know/learn or teacher deems interesting but unnecessary. D. To settle conflicts or puzzling problems. E. To build friendly relationships with the students. I'll argue points B, C, and E for my proposed teacher's parameters. If the teachers really behave similar to your description, the teachers are very irresponsible for the wellbeing of the class and not follow point D. If RoG or similar attacked the Academy, most students would not be hush-hush about it. Most reasonable students would contacts their relatives or guardians to explain the situation, and the teachers could potentially lose their jobs or reputation for incompetency. While the students will have some strength after 6 weeks, a team like RoG would come armed to the teeth attacking the Academy and not hold back. So I'll await for the for the RoG and freelance response. If denied, I'll just send my student's profile in whenever. Also @Taco. That's why I'm trying to make the teacher post as flexible as possible. Make my guy more like a tutor or have that older sibling mentality. Just don't wanna be a pure student. And yes, sometimes power does go to my head, but my OC's powers go as far as issuing assignments, grading, and resolving conflicts. The last part students can solve for themselves, but first and second will be left to the superior teachers. Sorry if this was rude, but I'm keeping it real m8. Edited November 4, 2014 by Antares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 @Antares: While your arguments are valid and reasonable, you're overlooking one thing. You'd get little to no activity as a teacher. The RP is mainly focused on student life so most teacher activity gets sent to the background (think about how many times we've actually seen Phoebe or Tyron, two of the main teachers, do something with students). The biggest issue I have with a teacher is the power to resolve conflicts. I really don't like the idea of someone outside of Chim and his Co-hosts to be able to have powers to step in and resolve a conflict. We already had a few conflicts regarding that and this would just make that issue stronger. For lack of a better word, you'd probably end up being a dick by ruining an epic student to student moment scene. I'm not saying it's a bad concept, but I really don't trust you with that kind of power from what I've seen you post so far. There's really no other way for me to say it. Maybe if a well respected RPer recommended you be great at that role I'd have a different impression, but that's just where I stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) I understand your points commander and I'll readily accept them to mind. Only thing I want out of my OC is for him to be a role model in the very least. That's the only thing I ask. Yes, I have been king dick for the past week or two on this forum, but I just wanna join an RP that appeals. Also, don't want my OC to be 14-15. I've raised four cousins since they were in diapers and I get the pseudo-sibling mentality. The n00bs at the Academy could look up to me and I can learn the ropes by talking to the experienced students. Side note: been looking for a place to solicit my ideas for an RP I've had in mind for a month. Just wanted to see if anyone would be interested. It's like a medival sort of Pokemon, with lifestyles similar to the beginning of Lucario and the Mystery of Mew. http://www.pokemonreborn.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10473&hl=vanguards here's the IC. Keep it real m8. Edited November 4, 2014 by Antares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I understand your points commander and I'll readily accept them to mind. Only thing I want out of my OC is for him to be a role model in the very least. That's the only thing I ask. Yes, I have been king dick for the past week or two on this forum, but I just wanna join an RP that appeals. Also, don't want my OC to be 14-15. I've raised four cousins since they were in diapers and I get the pseudo-sibling mentality. The n00bs at the Academy could look up to me and I can learn the ropes by talking to the experienced students. Side note: been looking for a place to solicit my ideas for an RP I've had in mind for a month. Just wanted to see if anyone would be interested. It's like a medival sort of Pokemon, with lifestyles similar to the beginning of Lucario and the Mystery of Mew. Keep it real m8. There's a magical thing called an interest thread that literally everybody makes for rp's they want to see if people are interested in. Plus, it's also the PC's choice as to whether or not they want to look up for you so there's no guarantee your character's demands for respect will be met. And I think the academy would at least make sure the teacher knew what he was doing and/or was trained before putting then in as a teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLight Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I really don't like being involved in these conflicts, but I feel like I need to speak up: Antares, for one thing, I really appreciate that you are interested in this RP. Believe me, though, you're not the only one. Like you, we have all asked whether our PCs could be both Trainer/Breeder, Trainer/Coodinator, be teacher assistants, etc. Chimchain has, politely, told us "no." We respected that and dropped it. I understand that you want your character to stand out, but you could make your character stand out without having to resort to getting authority. You said you have raised 4 cousins, which makes you mentally capable of handling the younger students, but also uncomfortable with playing as a 15 year old. While raising 4 cousins is admirable, it should not be a reason to say "I deserve to play a teacher/mentor role." I am actually playing a character that is outside of my comfort zone. Not only am I not outgoing like Danielle, who is white and can speak French and teases the hell out of people, Danielle is also 7 years younger than me. That's right, I'm shy like Lana, is Asian and can speak Chinese... And I'm 22 years old. Second, role models do not have to be older characters. They can be students or even Pokemon. You could play as a 15 year-old student who has experience with children, like yourself, which would make your character more mature and it would still achieve the same result as having a alumni/professor while still enjoying the benefits of all of the events taking place. There are many ways to make a character stand out without taking the reins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 @Antares: I was actually referring to scenarios where I unintentionally created conflict/issues. Most of them were resolved fairly quickly because I tend to try and avoid fighting. As for making a PC, don't try forcing us to do stuff like that. Mess around a bit and see how your PC fits in instead. Here's an idea you could work with. Why don't you play the role of looking up to someone instead of them looking up to you? I mean we have the Shiro and his "big brother" (not sure if Robert stole that role from me yet) and I can't think of any others off the top of my head. @Darklight: I actually loosely based Henry's new personality off a character from a book I'm "working" on. Sadly, he really doesn't do that character justice. I'm really surprised how many times his name has popped up whenever he's not around. I honestly thought he was going to end up being an invisible, irritating, and forgettable character. As for characters out of my comfort zone, I've pushed my self enough times I'm willing to play just about any role. The funnest ones are characters I have absolutely no idea how to portray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tses Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 That girl is me? Or not? I am a bit confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Sorry Chim, I'll close my proposal with a final argument. First off, the teachers of any school should teach on the following parameters. A. Any info or skill necessary for the road ahead. B. Any info or skill POTENTIALLY necessary. C. Anything the students wish to know/learn or teacher deems interesting but unnecessary. D. To settle conflicts or puzzling problems. E. To build friendly relationships with the students. I'll argue points B, C, and E for my proposed teacher's parameters. If the teachers really behave similar to your description, the teachers are very irresponsible for the wellbeing of the class and not follow point D. If RoG or similar attacked the Academy, most students would not be hush-hush about it. Most reasonable students would contacts their relatives or guardians to explain the situation, and the teachers could potentially lose their jobs or reputation for incompetency. While the students will have some strength after 6 weeks, a team like RoG would come armed to the teeth attacking the Academy and not hold back. So I'll await for the for the RoG and freelance response. If denied, I'll just send my student's profile in whenever. While your parameters are true for any real life school, this one works a bit different. Every teacher in this school is specialized in a certain area + 1 type they focus on. Redwood screened all of them and they are the best candidates around. Students can find the info they want or advise about skills from any teacher. While Phoebe is specialized in water types she can easily give advice on how to handle fighting types. However she will mention to ask Tyron because he's the strongest Fighting type user around even though he doesn't have only fighting types. As for your commends about how irresponsible they are: - Devin is the most important NPC for first years. He's responsible and safety comes first. He makes it his job to be involved with new students because he believes that the first year is the most important one. Students are still discovering their style and raising Pokémon. That's why he's always around instead of Redwood. - Phoebe is the newest teacher. She's very outgoing and about the only teacher that doesn't mind if you actually call her by her first name. She is a complete powerhouse that rivals the E4. She's not as strong as Devin but can hold herself very well in battle. She will make sure students are safe but when RoG invades she won't give students orders to retreat unlike Devin. She'll say to either find help or to hold the grunts off to their best ability because she's actually really smart and has an eye for battle. She knows that even the first years can go head to head with some of the agents or outnumber them 2 vs 1 or something like that. She's also somewhat unique in resolving conflicts because she uses her Pokémon to break things up. (Something the other teachers don't do) - Tyron isn't used to teaching either. He was originally hired to do all the chores but gradually earned a spot on the team. He's not on the level the other two are, but is the third strongest teacher. He will use a 'wrecking ball' strategy if necessary so students can escape and will be safe. He'll give the same advice as Phoebe to go look for help or make sure to atleast outnumber the enemy. Aside from Devin I haven't shown much of the other NPCs on purpose. The reason I only made three teachers is because this RP focuses on the students. They are backed by three of the strongest people around. 2 of them literally have the power to raid RoG on their own and get very far. Devin can hold down 2 admins at the same time if necessary. As far the part about them losing their job: won't happen. Devin is way too popular and parents would have even more doubts if he was fired. All the rest is protected by Redwood. That is currently his role before he'll be involved into the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 That girl is me? Or not? I am a bit confused. The one that bumped into Danielle? No, you are still with the group I put you in. I just didn't reveal anything about the two new NPCs yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tses Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Not the one with Danielle. The one that was looking up on Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Not the one with Danielle. The one that was looking up on Ryan. No that's another NPC. I don't control PCs unless it's small movements like I did with Robert. Poor guy never saw it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tses Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Oh ok. Thnx. I got confused since i was the only girl in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Sorry Chim for poking holes in your logic. If my application to RoG in the beginning was unrealistic, there has to be some flawed logic in that. If Devin could hold his own against two admins, those admins must not be bringing their A-game. A team like RoG would make precise predictions to forsee any possible threats if they are the truely quasi-illuminati crime organization you say they are. The parents or guardians would only worry for their kids if RoG did not make it far. Look back to Harry Potter the Chamber of Secrets to see what I mean. Students disappearing, or getting attacked would raise a huge red flag. I'll also give up on the teacher role and just roll with the punches from here on out. I'll send in my student app if it's ok. Didn't want to do a student at first b/c it's sorta generic IMO. 999, 999 in a million does not keep things interesting, just that other one. Keep it real m8. Edited November 4, 2014 by Antares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Sorry Chim for poking holes in your logic. If my application to RoG in the beginning was unrealistic, there has to be some flawed logic in that. If Devin could hold his own against two admins, those admins must not be bringing their A-game. A team like RoG would make precise predictions to forsee any possible threats if they are the truely quasi-illuminati crime organization you say they are. I'll also give up on the teacher role and just roll with the punches from here on out. I'll send in my student app if it's ok. Didn't want to do a student at first b/c it's sorta generic IMO. 999, 999 in a million does not keep things interesting, just that other one. Keep it real m8. More like don't underestimate Devin. He doesn't have any sympathy for organizations like RoG so even if they bring their A-game Devin is hard to beat. Like I said: Students can join in when Chapter 3 starts and RoG depends on the activity there so it might still be possible to join them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'm just gonna drop our argument since we don't have exact levels for the admins and Devin, other than we know they're strong. Now this is a purely theoretical scenario. Theoretically, Dev can hold off admins. Theoretically, Tyron can use the wrecking ball strategy. Theoretically, the girl can keep a clear head. We don't know EXACTLY how the people would act in an RoG raid, unless they forsaw it and had proper time to prepare. We don't know RoG's number of members, their motives, or their goal. RoG might have a 3-figure member count. If their motives were to conquer the school, I could believe the teacher's reactions. If they sought to terrorize or annihilate then they would hope you'd make the students retreat so they could harm them. I'll just send in my student app if it's ok with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 DarkLight, you're Chinese too? 8D That and as a double agent an RoG member, I do believe that we have yet to see the true strength and power of the NPC higher-ups. So far we've only seen Melody in action, using an Arbok to take down Ratface in the beginning... Although this is only if RoG continues (which to be honest I kinda doubt since it looks like it heavily relies on mine and Snap's characters and at the moment Zeke is considering dropping out unless I think of a way to outwit Surge in this charade; for the sake of staying in-character, it is very difficult since Brian and Lia and adventure are the only reasons he'd want to stay with RoG.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'm just gonna drop our argument since we don't have exact levels for the admins and Devin, other than we know they're strong. Now this is a purely theoretical scenario. Theoretically, Dev can hold off admins. Theoretically, Tyron can use the wrecking ball strategy. Theoretically, the girl can keep a clear head. We don't know EXACTLY how the people would act in an RoG raid, unless they forsaw it and had proper time to prepare. We don't know RoG's number of members, their motives, or their goal. RoG might have a 3-figure member count. If their motives were to conquer the school, I could believe the teacher's reactions. If they sought to terrorize or annihilate then they would hope you'd make the students retreat so they could harm them. I'll just send in my student app if it's ok with you. That's the fun of being a host: I know their strenghts and how they would react xD Send your character via PM. That way we can discuss it there and I can tell you when to post it in here. I'm doing the same thing with someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Unintentional Douche Ryan enters the room. Is Alvin gonna make an appearance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 DarkLight, you're Chinese too? 8D That and as a double agent an RoG member, I do believe that we have yet to see the true strength and power of the NPC higher-ups. So far we've only seen Melody in action, using an Arbok to take down Ratface in the beginning... Although this is only if RoG continues (which to be honest I kinda doubt since it looks like it heavily relies on mine and Snap's characters and at the moment Zeke is considering dropping out unless I think of a way to outwit Surge in this charade; for the sake of staying in-character, it is very difficult since Brian and Lia and adventure are the only reasons he'd want to stay with RoG.). HehehhehhehehehehehehehehehehhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAAH!!! Oh...sorry about that, soldier. I don't know what came over me just then. but it wouldn't be good unless he gave a 110% effort, now would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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