K_H Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 It's OK. If, at any point, you have more problems with my Posts, feel free to call me out on it in a PM. I learn my RPing by Experience, so any help you give me is much appreciated. (Even when I'm Stratosurging [my term for taking on a new personality in the way that you do], it'll still have an effect.) It'll be fun to see how Mareek reacts when he notices Kenny in the room, if Mareek reacts at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted March 8, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted March 8, 2015 It's OK. If, at any point, you have more problems with my Posts, feel free to call me out on it in a PM. I learn my RPing by Experience, so any help you give me is much appreciated. (Even when I'm Stratosurging [my term for taking on a new personality in the way that you do], it'll still have an effect.) It'll be fun to see how Mareek reacts when he notices Kenny in the room, if Mareek reacts at all. You're trying to take on Red? Shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 You're trying to take on Red? Shut up oh... he actually has a point. Well, it depends what incarnation of red you're going off of though, if it's the Manga one, then it actually isn't that bad to be talking, but if it's the one from the games... yeah, he like never talks. at all. to anyone. Surge was the Game Incarnation since Stratos hated the Anime's and the overall Manga's portrayals. speaking of which, both of em are MIA... probably ain't coming back, ah well. That just leaves me to have more fun with the stuff they were working on... they really shouldn't have left the door wide open, what with an eternal wanderer...wandering the area. Anyways, back to what I was saying before that there tangent- yeah, I'd advise sticking to the Manga incarnation of Red's portrayal since he doesn't even exist in the anime and he has virtually no hint of a personality in the games at all (Being mute and everything...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 8, 2015 You've gotta admit though...the manga is far cooler than the anime and games.....then again,Blue isnt a total dick in the manga so there's something wrong with it ......I want to see a Blastoise vs Charizard battle at some point if for no other reason than to reinact the penultimate battle in pokemon origins(Because that was awesome...would've been cooler if it was a full scale battle as episode 3 and Lavender town+Giovanni was put into one episode) but i'm not gunna nitpick there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 @Zerron: Speaking of that, I'm actually doing the Anime Incarnation of Red. (No, not Ash. I'm doing Red from the Pokemon Origins Anime.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 8, 2015 ....Origins incarnation you say..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Indeedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hmm,Heal Liona and Tytanniel for any possible future matches now...or wait for the next match and get them all done at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Flip a coin, compadre. That's what I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 8, 2015 Welp,Came out as heal....you know....Rotom could potentially have the same ability Java has of going into computers/technology....i mean. Rotom can already posses other appliances other than the 5 formes as shown by how it is enountered so it going into computers and stuff isnt too much of a stretch(Inb4 Electric Steel Rotom ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Well seeing as how in the games you almost always find it hanging out in a computer or tv set or whatever when you find it, I'm pretty certain that would go without saying. I don't know exactly about whether it would be able to integrate itself into actual cyberspace or large electronic networks like the porygon line can, but the appliance thing is a pretty obvious indication. Speaking of Java, I've been working lately on the move sets for the triumpharant members once they're fully evolved. Here's what I'm thinking of for Erce's set as a scizor: @ Erce (scizor) -Bullet Punch -Vacuum Wave -Flash Cannon -Night Slash -Sand Storm -Agility With this right here, I can do a whole lot of fun little tid bits on the battle field, I won't go into very much detail, but gliding, control of winds, and checks for the fire weakness are all very big things with this... I'm a bit saddened that Scizor has no access to any rock or ground moves though, but I think I can substitute well enough with a few combos involving sandstorm... *Chuckles* in fact, there's a lot I can do with Sandstorm... still a bit iffy about the flash cannon though. now to get working on Nemo's and Java's eventual full evo sets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 8, 2015 I think it could just hijack stuff or break em like a virus or something,usefull nonetheless.(If i do indeed decide to use it,i might wanna integrate a Rivalry between Java and the Prankster Rotom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Looking at it's page, it seems that the extent of it's abilities are taking possession of an appliances motor and causing havoc with it (Basically how it changes it's forms) and terrorizing folks. Java's evo family is more focused less on actually possesing electronics, but instead being able to freely enter and exit out of them while hiding in the background of the system and more of being able to manipulate things related to computers and networks. As for a rivalry, I don't know, Java's gonna be one wild and crazy guy one day, so chances are if it happens, he won't even acknowledge it as a competition... And I think I'll swap out the Flash Cannon for Air Slash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 8, 2015 I just imagined a Porygon-Z shouting out profanities and what not constantly and i think that might fit a Porygon-Z. XD(Not so much profanities but swearing and crazy shiz) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hmmm. I do beleive I shall have his object of obsession be... Internet memes and various refrences to movies and TV shows. oh yeah, I can tell I'm gonna have a lot of fun with him in the future... and now I'm suddenly reminded of snake wood again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 8, 2015 ...Internet Memes? Hooo Boy,Get some popcorn because he'll Proffesor Dinosauring us up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Zerron, I think putting Sandstorm on Erce might do more harm than good for you. I'm not going to go into much detail on the team, but most of my Pokemon would be able to completely curb-stomp any trick you do with those effortlessly. Heck, two of them would greatly benefit from those tactics. (Sandstorm I also feel is more of a defensive weather effect than an offensive one...I would know considering I wanted T-tar beforehand). As for Vacuum Wave, I feel the move will have fallen from grace by the time we reach the final moves. Sure, it's a good counter for fire attacks, but the sitting duck strategy is gonna make it a double edge sword. I'm not saying to get rid of it, but don't limit yourself to old or fixed tactics when a new one might be far better. I was going to drop Mud Sport after this chapter, but now, I might keep it around for a bit longer despite not needing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 whoa there, compadre, whoa, hold ya horses before you go judging those there moves. There's more ways than one to use Sandstorm. And the anime has proven that it can be put towards applications which do not necessarily have to cause the weather effect itself (Jasmine v. Ash, . I can think of more than a few mechanics that it uses that could prove very useful with enough creativity. Erce's sandstorm will hardly ever be used for the purpose of effecting the weather. You may believe now that you could easily take advantage of, and there curbstomp, erce from what traditional applications of the move are often portrayed in various mediums, however it might or might not be the same case once I eventually unveil my own methods for using them. I've got my own little bag of tricks already planned out. compadre, I emplore thee, don't go thinking you know exactly how I'm gonna use a move before I even use it. And the same principle goes for vacuum wave- but first, let me say that one, physical moves are not the end all and be all for primarily physical inclined mons, there will come times when you go up against walls that will absorb the very category that is your fighter's main forte in combat, and what is one to do then if one has totally invested in moves relying on direct physical contact? My best example of this is Mareek's battle against Lana, Nemo was more or less useless against Rhydon aside from keeping it relatively occupied while Erce got her hands dirty, his attacks got licked up like it was nothing because he was attacking a physical tank. If Erce hadn't have known Vacuum Wave, and therefore not have to rely on getting in close solely and using only physical attacks, that whole bout would've ended right then and there with very different results. And the same goes for special attackers, what happens when big bad Chansey shows up, or one of it's spec.defensive cousins that lick up special attacks like their melted ice cream on hot summer's day? In general, I personally embrace the philosophy that a move is not bound to one specific application or method of execution, that just because it appears so in the anime or the games, where everyone and everyone's mother keeps using it for the same cliche way, that it must by definition be locked into one method of use or portrayal. Chimchain himself said in the basic battle rules that Offensive moves could be use defensively, like with Rapid Spin, somewhat granting a bit of support to this general idea's basis, that just because an attack is used by so many people to do one common, specific think, means that it can't be used in a diferent way by someone who's clever enough to think outside the box and tear the move apart and look at it's most basic mechanics, and from there determine how it might be applied for other purposes in battle. It's like the old proverb, Don't fear the man who practices one thousand kicks, fear the man who practices one kick a thousand times. (Well... in this case, it's more like "Fear the man who practices one kick a thousand different ways" or something to that effect). And Vacuum wave doesn't make the user a sitting duck. Erce used it in Mareek's and Lana's battle while strafing in the air, and I heard no one protesting "You're breaking the rules of the move!" with that. And even if it appears that Erce must stop all movement in order to fire in how I've written and portrayed it in the few situations it's even been used, such as during Mareek and Slade's battle in which she launched dual VWs at Ti-101, or when she used it in his last battle against the shellos and again fired off two in quick succession while blitzing, while notably being stopped very briefly to do so, that is more out of an early practice habit than an actual requirement for proper execution. Regarding the strategy of Vacuum shield itself, again, calling it a "Sitting Duck" strategy is from the assumption of how it's base move Vacuum Wave is so often portrayed- I only ever used it once, and that was during the trip for the initial escalation stages of the Torkoal battle scene involving Claude and Mareek, and even then, I gave no description of the strategy, just more or less stated "Erce saved Java using her Vacuum Shield technique." Ergo, no one here actually has seen how it works in action. While I may have said that it was more or less based off of Riolu's use of the move VW, that was just to give a general idea of the basic mechanics of some kind of vacuum being created via the manipulation of wind in some way. It's not the exact same way that it's used, it's just a mechanic I was using to try to explain the basic functioning of the technique. in all honestly, simply being shown a video and having a basic explanation of the base mechanics isn't really enough to go pegging the whole strategem as being eventually useless when it hasn't even been genuinely used in the actual writing yet. My point is, because it is driven and refined from a move, the technique is like a move in itself, it's not bound explicitly to only one form of portrayal or use, so long as it sticks true to the mechanics of it's basic functioning. Vacuum Shield has both a stationary and a mobile method of execution, it is not bound to any one method, because each one stays true to the basic mechanics of forming some type of vacuum force, etc. but because no other appropriate instance for them being pulled out and actually used have popped up yet, no one's seen them. Anyways... I see I've typed a long rant when I'm supposed to be asleep, so... TL:DR- Please don't judge a book, or a move, just by it's cover, Fear guys who have too much time on their hands and are obsessed with kicking techniques, Mechanics are more important in how moves can be used than the flashiness or mundaness of their portrayal, and all moves are more or less just generic bases that anyone and anyone's mother could use in their most straight forward manners (IE, what's explicitly stated in the flavor tex, etc.etc.), but those who take a look further and examine what makes the move tick can make it into a technique truly all their own. In closing- Moves are like swords. Anyone can pick them up and wave em around, but until some deeper connection, some form of understanding and actually thinking of the sword as an extension of one's own self, "Swinging them around" is all one will ever truly do, not wield it as their own. Anyone can pick up moves, anyone can use moves, but those who can look beyond the surface of what they are will be able to make even the weakest move have a few more applications than it originally appeared. And that, my friends... is how Mareek Akira Sisto and his team fights and has been fighting for the majority of the time I have been writing them. all this above, this philosophy that you can use one move a thousand different ways if you think hard enough, that it's the man that makes the move, not the move that makes the man, that is more or less the basis of his entire style in a nutshell: looking beyond the surface, beyond the obvious and cliche, and finding the "Power that's inside" every move. In battle, his team does not simply "Use Moves", no, they use Techniques that are derived and refined from the basic templates that are "Moves". then there's also another few components to his style, but that's not terribly important right now... plus, I've said more than enough already and I need some damn sleep. I am very surprised I'm even this coherent this late at night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I guess this is kind of where we both agree to disagree. Henry's a coordinator so sticking with the same moves wouldn't be doing much for him (I also feel like getting new moves while we can keeps things fresh). The only reason I mentioned Vacuum Wave is that the move does have flaws like any other move. The term sitting duck isn't the best way to describe it, but it'll feel like one when you realize the flaws (it's really, really obvious when you think deeply about it). As for the Sandstorm, I really thought a lot of my Pokemon through including when the opponent would get benefits from Sandstorm and counter against Sandstorm users. That's why I wanted to say something before you trap yourself onto something. I'm only one person who's also in a different system so that strategy may still work well against others. By the way, I've only ever a little more than half a season of the anime so whenever someone brings something up from there I really don't know what you're talking about. Generally, I base my attacks of the game descriptions and usually slightly deviate from there to make them fit battling better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 So I finally managed to catch up. I have my new laptop and the only thing I have left to do is transfer my Ymora documents to this one after getting Openoffice. Now that's out of the way I can start updating again. This is what's going to happen: 1) Jacob won. I don't know where Jory is but that battle wasn't all that important. So those that are going to post before I can; you can use it. (Danielle or Slade or someone else close to Jacob or anyone feeling like mentioning it) 2) This is the reason why I made this post. I don't like doing this but I'm going to force Kenny out of the tournament. I will PM him about the reasons why but that's between him and me. I don't want anyone giving him any crap about it or telling me that I'm abusing my host powers. I'm just informing you all because this time I will powerplay a character without it being related to the story. Just let me tell you this; Kenny is on his way to getting killed. I don't mind killing off characters but this one is a pointless death. K_H (or Trainer Red), consider this as a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 On a lighter note: what's the group in the waiting room doing? If you're all done plotting I'm going to throw something else in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted March 9, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted March 9, 2015 afaik, nothing much. It just kinda ended on Mareek storming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 That's what I thought but I haven't seen some of the people post lately so I don't know if they're still active. (Even though I expected them to jump at the Skarmory conversation) Anyway I'll edit my latest update for the group in the waiting room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted March 9, 2015 Veterans Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) I feel like this is oddly fitting...I mean,Mt pyre start which is fused with the Magma/Aqua Boss theme....i just like it....though there's another i might want to use.... Any thoughts? Edited March 9, 2015 by Dat Assery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Chim, there's no need to Powerplay. Since you want Kenny to be out of the Tourney, I'll have him forfeit due to a sudden illness that'll go away the next day. It'll be a bad reaction to something he had for breakfast that morning, or something like that. Edited March 9, 2015 by Trainer Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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