Commander Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 She's more for CD purposes like Jeor was, but she's gonna fill the same role as him more or less- a panzer tank that disappears in the mist and uses the cover to it's advantage. Basically, mildly evasive, likely relying on priority quick attack/ aerial ace to manuever, but main focus is on being able to withstand a blow or two... which she can do a more rounded job of than jeor given the higher spec. defense. Pretty much what I designed for her outside the Quick Attack and Aerial Ace even though I did consider those moves with Quick Attack just removed a month ago. Yeah...I know I'm not going to abuse those dodging tactics because being able to avoid a few attacks rather easily is part of an attack, not her defense. Still the overall weakest member of Henry's team imo, but I have nothing better to replace her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Pretty much what I designed for her outside the Quick Attack and Aerial Ace even though I did consider those moves with Quick Attack just removed a month ago. Yeah...I know I'm not going to abuse those dodging tactics because being able to avoid a few attacks rather easily is part of an attack, not her defense. Still the overall weakest member of Henry's team imo, but I have nothing better to replace her. you running snow cloak or ice body on that panzer? I'ma outfit mine with the former. and will she be running hail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 you running snow cloak or ice body on that panzer? I'ma outfit mine with the former. and will she be running hail? Snow Cloak and you'd have to be an idiot not to run hail on a Glaceon considering the abilities. The reason I picked it is because it best suited the hail reserve on Henry's team (though I did look at Glalie many times before picking her. If Henry wasn't a Coordinator, I'd actually use Glalie instead). Her status moves are Hail and Barrier if you were wondering. Edit: Azery, you can't have a Ferrothorn attack itself and especially hell no to having Lightingrod effects or charge effects. Even irl, the electricity would just move out of the Pokemon and be absorbed by the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) .....Today I learnt that Ferrothorn can learn Thunder...perfect.......soon there will be an Age where no electric type shall be safe lol. He'd essentially be a lightning rod and himself having Thunder,It wouldnt be that weird considering Ferroseed's natural habitat in B/W being Chargestone cave where electricity is everywhere..... It would move out of his body immediantly due to the appendages,one of which would be taking in the electricity towards Ferrothorn's main body while the other would lead it into the ground essentially neutralizing it. How would it attack itself when it's taking it's just neutralizing it. Edited April 8, 2015 by Azeria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 .....Today I learnt that Ferrothorn can learn Thunder...perfect.......soon there will be an Age where no electric type shall be safe lol. He'd essentially be a lightning rod and himself having Thunder,It wouldnt be that weird considering Ferroseed's natural habitat in B/W being Chargestone cave where electricity is everywhere..... It would move out of his body immediantly due to the appendages,one of which would be taking in the electricity towards Ferrothorn's main body while the other would lead it into the ground essentially neutralizing it. How would it attack itself when it's taking it's just neutralizing it. I really doubt Ferrothorn could handle the equivalence of two thunders in its body. From RL experiences, you'd be lucky if that Pokemon only passed out from trying that (only certain electric types with lightning rod, volt absorb, etc should be able to handle that). Now if you used it as a medium, that's a different story, but seriously don't try and supercharge Ferrothorn. I'd say at least an auto Paralysis because that's what happens to some people irl when hit by electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 .....Today I learnt that Ferrothorn can learn Thunder...perfect.......soon there will be an Age where no electric type shall be safe lol. He'd essentially be a lightning rod and himself having Thunder,It wouldnt be that weird considering Ferroseed's natural habitat in B/W being Chargestone cave where electricity is everywhere..... It would move out of his body immediantly due to the appendages,one of which would be taking in the electricity towards Ferrothorn's main body while the other would lead it into the ground essentially neutralizing it. How would it attack itself when it's taking it's just neutralizing it. I really doubt Ferrothorn could handle the equivalence of two thunders in its body. From RL experiences, you'd be lucky if that Pokemon only passed out from trying that (only certain electric types with lightning rod, volt absorb, etc should be able to handle that). Now if you used it as a medium, that's a different story, but seriously don't try and supercharge Ferrothorn. I'd say at least an auto Paralysis because that's what happens to some people irl when hit by electricity. Yeah, even though I've got something similiar with Nemo, I gotta agree with commander considering... Nemo's a ground type, Ferrothorn is not. that and the fact that Nemo more or less has learned to use his ability to channel it around his body, not actually store it and try to supercharge himself, since... naturally, that would make no sense given his typing. Now if he was a pikachu or a pachirisu or any chu/ electric type- it'd be a different story with the charging. So yeah, you're pushing it real hard with that one. Channeling is the least BS way to go, but even then, the auto paralysis would likely be a very likely outcome... because it's not a ground/electric type. Now, I have a few ideas on how steel types can block electricity from notes and things that I've straight up stolen from the anime, but... ha, like I'm gonna actually share them before the time is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) It wouldnt be using thunder at the same time lol,I wouldnt be surprised if it overheated or something due to that. It'd redirect it to the ground instead of using it for Thunder. I'm just trying it as something to use for double battles more than something else. The thing was mainly made to help protect Golduck from Electric moves in Double batles actually since those two work well with eachother(They'd be even better if Golduck was Water/Psychic)but I digress. Now that I think about electric types against Rubix,perhaps using Mud Bomb in a similar way to Mud Sport would be better then.... Using Iron Tail/Steel Wing/Physical Steel Move on the Ground while the electricity is hitting you lol that's where this came from due to Tytaniell being able to use Gyro Ball/Metal Claw/Iron Head to just send it to the ground. Edited April 8, 2015 by Azeria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted April 8, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted April 8, 2015 Typically for non-ele mons that can use electric type moves, I figure it's based on ways they CAN generate electricity. Lopunny can learn thunderpunch. How? Static electricity in its fur is gathered to its fist. Steel types like Ferrothorn can learn thunder through perhaps converting kinetic movement energy into electricity through their bodies. Hell, the nly reason probopass is capable of using zap cannon, the strongest ele ove is because it can use electromagnetism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Typically for non-ele mons that can use electric type moves, I figure it's based on ways they CAN generate electricity. Lopunny can learn thunderpunch. How? Static electricity in its fur is gathered to its fist. Steel types like Ferrothorn can learn thunder through perhaps converting kinetic movement energy into electricity through their bodies. Hell, the nly reason probopass is capable of using zap cannon, the strongest ele ove is because it can use electromagnetism. ^^^^This. this right here. best way to explain it, 10/10 would read again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted April 8, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted April 8, 2015 Another example of the static is Honchkrow being able to use thunder wave; as it flaps its wings the feathers gather and store energy which allows a smaller burst if energy enough to paralyse. It's largey just a matter of analysing the pokeon to think of how they could do it. Game freak can be contrary at times but they wouldn't blatantly disregard physics with that many mons, only maybe a minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 That leaves us one question though, Doctor Dobby... how in the hell can these fellows do it? Cause my best guess is that perhaps the same organ structure or whatever that's responsible for causing lightning rod as a possible ability in the species is somehow also capable of generating electricity of it's own... though only enough that it can be gathered on the body but can't actually be discharged in a ranged burst like Thunderbolt or Chargebeam that's literally the best explanation I've been able to deduce (And it's kinda Java's whole justification in how he thinks he'll be able to teach the orphan rather quickly in the art of lightning bending thunder punching) EDIT: However, however however however... (Scuse me, gonna break my own theory here) Rhyhorn and such also has lightning rod- yet can use thunderbolt... so, my thoery may be kibaashed... oh screw it, I don't care, he has access to thunder punch for some reason so I'm just not even gonna question this one... though, in place, I could have him run hid- alright, I'm done... *Leaves the lab* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted April 8, 2015 For water types,I'd think it would be something like how Hydropower is used to generate electricity in those dams. Starmie would the best explanation for this because since it's able to spin due to its star shape that or its continous spinning would generate enough kinetic movement energy for it to convert it into a stable electric type move like thunderbolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted April 8, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted April 8, 2015 @Surge we can always fall back on the explanation of bio-electricity created by a particular organ or Mitochondria. THE MITOCHONDRIA ARE THE POWERHOUSES OF THE CELL Thats the only thing I learned in biology because of one guy yelling it before the exam. EDIT: Where exactly is mareek btw? rather not have Claude turn into a pin cushion if the jolteon is waiting to ambush someone blonde in the waiting room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Lols, I love how much this feels like Surge Story right now, with everyone sitting down and putting their heads together trying to rationalize pokeman... Oh the memories... @Surge we can always fall back on the explanation of bio-electricity created by a particular organ or Mitochondria. THE MITOCHONDRIA ARE THE POWERHOUSES OF THE CELL Thats the only thing I learned in biology because of one guy yelling it before the exam. EDIT: Where exactly is mareek btw? rather not have Claude turn into a pin cushion if the jolteon is waiting to ambush someone blonde in the waiting room... Surge approves this message. Hes in the... opposite waiting room of James, I guess. And you don't have to worry about claude, that fox's eyes are damn good and she won't act unless she needs to (IE, if Erce were to go down and the other two...) she's just being quiet to maintain the element of surprise in such a case. So yeah, she won't misfire or anything because of mistaken identity. You good brah, you good. Same goes with Nemo and Java- The orphan knows exactly what the guy looks like, and Java uses Nemo as a cue to action, so again, you good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Speaking of Hidden power..... Idk how Hidden Power works lol,It makes no sense for a fire type like Charizard to be able to produce a force cold enough for it to be classified as an Ice type move. It's body temperature alone should be enough to stop it from being used lol... Anyways,Time to go looking for a possible nickname for a Male Jolteon....electric pin missile agogo! Edited April 8, 2015 by Azeria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted April 8, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted April 8, 2015 Actually Starmies electricity is emitted from its Jewel core, according to bulbapedia, jus' sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Just like Surge Story's OOC, I'm telling ya... Lols XD Speaking of Hidden power..... Idk how Hidden Power works lol,It makes no sense for a fire type like Charizard to be able to produce a force cold enough for it to be classified as an Ice type move. It's body temperature alone should be enough to stop it from being used lol... Anyways,Time to go looking for a possible nickname for a Male Jolteon....electric pin missile agogo! Either that, or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted April 8, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted April 8, 2015 Holy shit, the electrical waves Starmie releases are powerful enough to go to the Ends of the Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) .......Well,since everytime Starmie uses Thunderbolt on my XY save it starts spinning and the 1 time a Starmie used thunderbolt in the anime it was shown spinning while doing so,I thought that was how it worked.... Edited April 8, 2015 by Azeria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Bout do drop a little science and say that kinetic energy has to have some catalyst to transform it to electrical energy. Just cause I spin around a lot doesn't mean I'm gonna release lightning bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Bout do drop a little science and say that kinetic energy has to have some catalyst to transform it to electrical energy. Just cause I spin around a lot doesn't mean I'm gonna release lightning bolts. That would be bad ass though if you did... but anyway, maybe we should tone it down a little... this IS gamefreak logic we're up against here, afterall... trust me, I've dealt with such a foe before, am still fighting him in fact, and he is not to be underestimated... he has many fallacies and many tricks to deceive you, and just when you think you've won... he hits you with an Alakazam that can somehow use Iron Tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Even worse is stuff like Slowpoke and Remoraid using Flamethrower. Gyarados can be justified under the fact that it's back story is based of a Chinese Dragon. But how is a fish like Remoraid going to spew hot flames out of its body....... Alakazam uses its spoons? Psychically Created tails like how it suddenly creates 3 extra spoons when going mega? IDK About the Catalyst thing,Starmie IS part psychic type and since it creates electromagnetic waves from its core gem,it probably uses that thing as the catalyst or something... Edited April 8, 2015 by Azeria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted April 8, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted April 8, 2015 After researching Starmie more in-depth I can confirm this: This is a dope-ass starfish. It is apparently capable of creating electric waves strong enough to go to the ends of the infinitely expading universe from its core WHICH glows in all 7 colour of the rainbow. Perfect for Claude, no? Furthermore, it's apparently sending those waves out to contact what may be an alien race becuase some people believe it to be Extra-terrestrial. Gamefreak fucked up yo, why in Gen 4 did Galactic try to steal a clefairy? They shudda been picking up some damn staryus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 8, 2015 Veterans Share Posted April 8, 2015 Why stop there?Why didnt they get freaking Deoxys or idk Lunatone and Solrock? They say their name is Team Galactic yet not EVEN 1 person in their entire orginazation uses a pokemon that have anything to do with something Extra-Terrestrial...... Another piece of weird Game Freak Logic:Stuff like Pikachu and Electabuzz can somehow use Toxic. Let me get this straight,they can release a highly potent venom onto their opponent but the question is where do they store it? If it's so potent that it increases in danger everyturn then surely they wouldnt have it inside their own body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 seriously. I'm beginning to get serious about this whole magic thing. That's the easy explanation here, don't make this fight harder than it has to be...GF logic will wreck ya if ya ain't careful... like with Toxic- the same question goes or almost every species... answer: they create it at that very second by using... Magic. really though, I think that's all it is at the end of the day- Pokemans are just wizards and shit, able to cast some wierd ass magic, and trainers are basically their personal managers who, while unable to use their wierd ass magic themselves, is familiar with it because they've studied them from afar for so long and ergo able to use "science" to help them bring out their full potential and teach them "Spells' they would not have figured out on their own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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