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You can read the labels on the PULSEs now. EPIC SPECULATION TIME!


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I happened to accidentally come across something you couldn't do in previous episodes of Reborn, if you stand right in front of certain PULSE systems and press "A", you read the labels. The one that Tangrowth used in Beryl Ward says "PULSE- 5A". The Tangrowth one in Jasper says "PULSE- 5B".

So obviously, the number indicates which type of Pulse it was (Tangrowth, Muk, Abra, etc.), and the letter indicates which individual it is (the Beryl Ward Tangrowth was made first, so it was A. Jasper Ward came second, so it was B.) This means that if you could have read the Obsidia Ward Tangrowth pulse, it probably would have said "PULSE- 5C". You can't though because it disappears as soon as you beat it.

Now, if Tangrowth is number 5, then that means there were 4 more Pokemon before it. What were they? Well, obviously Muk was one. The lake's been poisoned for much longer than the plant crisis was going on. Also, Mr. Bigglesworth was definitely one of the earlier, if not the very first PULSE Pokemon. And remember how Yureyu was destroyed by Earthquakes long ago? That was probably a PULSE as well. Maybe a Dugtrio or a Wishcash? Anyway, that leaves one more PULSE Pokemon to have been made before Tangrowth was. Will we ever find out what exactly it was?

Anyway, I've gone through the rest of the game's PULSEs, to the best of my ability:

Muk: Confirmed by Ame herself to be number 4.

Camerupt: Unfortunately, you can't read it. Its number is probably 6 though. It can't be under 5, otherwise Apophyll would have been a pile of ash long ago.

Bigglesworth: Confirmed by Ame herself, this is the very first PULSE system, which interestingly is PULSE- 00 and not 01. That means there's actually FIVE pre-Tangrowth PULSEs.

Abra: Confirmed by Ame herself to be number 7.

Clawtizer: The machine controlling it says it's number 10 when Eclipse deactivates it.

And obviously, there's more PULSEs on the way. Mr. Mime for one, and whatever's behind the ice wall in Ametrine and the sleepies in Agate City. Hopefully we'll be able to read at least some of them.

EDIT: Cepheus posted a great new list for us: don't want to seem like I'm ripping him off so I'll quote it: (this edit is outdated now)

EDIT FOR EPISODE 14: Avalugg confirmed for number 02. Also, there was one before any of these, even Bigglesworth: A Magneton. This one's machine wasn't labeled, as it wasn't intended to be a series at the time.

EDIT FOR EPISODE 15 (spoilers)

While you can't see the number on Swalot's machine before it dissapears, Ame herself confirmed that it's number 03.

So, here's the new list:

First prototype: Magneton

00 - Mr.Bigglesworth

01 - ?? (most likely Earthquake related)

02 - Avalugg

03 - Swalot

04 - Muk

05 - Tangrowth

06 - Probably Camerupt

07 - Abra

08 - ?? (either Mr. Mime or whatever's keeping everyone sleepy in Agate)

09 - ?? (either Mr. Mime or whatever's keeping everyone sleepy in Agate)

10 - Clawitzer

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I noticed this as well, on my most recent playthrough.

Also, PULSE Clawitzer was number 10- it says when Eclipse deactivates it.

I don't think you can get up there to check Abra's, but I'll do so whenever I get far enough? If someone else doesn't do so first, that is.

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I noticed this as well, on my most recent playthrough.

Also, PULSE Clawitzer was number 10- it says when Eclipse deactivates it.

I don't think you can get up there to check Abra's, but I'll do so whenever I get far enough? If someone else doesn't do so first, that is.

Thanks for the info, didn't notice it when it happened because I wasn't looking for it, because I didn't discover the numbers yet.

Now, assuming Camerupt is number 6, that means Abra, Mr. Mime and the unknown 2 in Ametrine and Agate should be 7, 8, 9 and 11. That would make all the PULSEs accounted for, except for the missing pre-Tangrowth one.

(The problems Team Meteor was having with Abra indicate it's too recent to be Pre-Tangrowth)

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Thanks for the info, didn't notice it when it happened because I wasn't looking for it, because I didn't discover the numbers yet.

Now, assuming Camerupt is number 6, that means Abra, Mr. Mime and the unknown 2 in Ametrine and Agate should be 7, 8, 9 and 11. That would make all the PULSEs accounted for, except for the missing pre-Tangrowth one.

(The problems Team Meteor was having with Abra indicate it's too recent to be Pre-Tangrowth)

Some Electrode Pulse for the train station?

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Some Electrode Pulse for the train station?

I considered that earlier until I remembered they had actual explosives planned for Julia's gym; it makes sense they used them for the train station. Think of how much effort and money it must take to make a PULSE, they would never make one for the purpose of just blowing it up while they have actual bombs that do the job just as well.

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Nah, I think the train station was just regular explosives. They also bombed the Grand Staircase and neither blast did much. Considering the huge area of effect all the other PULSEs had, there's no way the explosion would've been that short-ranged or weak enough for the exterior of the station to hold up. I doubt they've got one-and-done PULSEs whenever they want to blow stuff up. We also stole booms from their first factory, I doubt that was their entire stash.

As for all other PULSEs, I don't think we've seen all there have been, maybe we never will. Just like how we never would've known about that Abra PULSE had we shown up at their base at any other time, or how we found the Wasteland's PULSE waaaay after it did it's job.

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One of the first four PULSEs might have been the one that created Tourmaline Desert (assuming it was also created around the same time as Byxbision Wasteland); people speculated that it was a PULSE Tyranitar or Hippowdon. Granted, we know literally nothing about Tourmaline, and don't seem to be going out there any time soon, so this piece of speculation might remain unanswered for a while.

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So it is:

00 - Mr.Bigglesworth

01 - ?? ---\

02 - ?? ----> one of those 3 is most likely Earthquake related

03 - ?? ---/

04 - Muk

05 - Tangrowth

06 - Camerupt (most liekely)

07 - Abra

08 - ?? (Agate City - PULSE) *

09 - Mr.Mime or Ametrine Ice blockade (if it is PULSE-related) *

10 - Clawitzer

11 - Mr.Mime or Ametrine Ice blockade (if it is PULSE-related)

* 8 and 9 might even be switched

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I still don't quite think that the ice blockade is caused by a PULSE. All the other ones we've seen work differently. Tangrowth's and Garbodor's PULSEs affected as much around them as they could, they spread all over the place, while Abra's and Clauncher's kept happening while just being ampilifiers. The thing looks too "neat" to have been created by a PULSE and there's only one of them (not to mention that there's really no move/ability that creates Ice like that).

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I still don't quite think that the ice blockade is caused by a PULSE. All the other ones we've seen work differently. Tangrowth's and Garbodor's PULSEs affected as much around them as they could, they spread all over the place, while Abra's and Clauncher's kept happening while just being ampilifiers. The thing looks too "neat" to have been created by a PULSE and there's only one of them (not to mention that there's really no move/ability that creates Ice like that).

Don't all of the PULSE machines affect the entire city around them? In that case, the ice blockade would still work (assuming it's surrounding all of Ametrine). If it's still "too neat" for you, try comparing it to PULSE Mr. Mime, they seem to function in similar ways.

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I still don't quite think that the ice blockade is caused by a PULSE. All the other ones we've seen work differently. Tangrowth's and Garbodor's PULSEs affected as much around them as they could, they spread all over the place, while Abra's and Clauncher's kept happening while just being ampilifiers. The thing looks too "neat" to have been created by a PULSE and there's only one of them (not to mention that there's really no move/ability that creates Ice like that).

I posted this in a different speculation topic but I may as well summarize it here. The pokedex states that Glalie is able to control water vapour and freeze it into any form it wants. That seems plenty possible to me.

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I still don't quite think that the ice blockade is caused by a PULSE. All the other ones we've seen work differently. Tangrowth's and Garbodor's PULSEs affected as much around them as they could, they spread all over the place, while Abra's and Clauncher's kept happening while just being ampilifiers. The thing looks too "neat" to have been created by a PULSE and there's only one of them (not to mention that there's really no move/ability that creates Ice like that).

Maybe it's a giant Avalugg (like the Steelix we saw at Tanzan Mountain)

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