Godot Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Edited for recent events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Made some changes to the rules. Omega Battlefield is replacing Final Destination on the Starter list of stages. Participants also must abide the selector's choice of Omega Stages. Custom Ruleset Rule added. List of Judges are made. Here is a list of stages I am considering for the Wii U version of the game... Starter: Battlefield Omega Battlefield Smashville Counter Pick: Final Destination Battlefield Big Battlefield Castle Siege Delfino Plaza Kongo Jungle Lylat Cruise Mushroom Kingdom U Pilot Wings Skyloft Smashville Town and City I also have seen a ton of tournaments allowing Prism Tower in the smash 3DS scene... anyone have any opinions on that. I once did allow Prism Tower and Tortimer's Island... But those stages had hazards that harmed gameplay... any Opinions on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 The problem with Prism Tower is that the stage is constantly moving and will leave a player behind. Or a platform will carry a player offscreen. Tortimeir Island is just a no, we tried it and just... No... Lastly I saw some wii u footage and someone was playing on Regular Mushroom Kingdom U. And there was a moment where Some creepy rabbit dood popped out of nowhere, threw a Potato sack over Bowser's head, tossed him over his shoulder and SD'd killing himself with Bowser.... Ya that stage is banned as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurorix Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The problem with Prism Tower is that the stage is constantly moving and will leave a player behind. Or a platform will carry a player offscreen. Tortimeir Island is just a no, we tried it and just... No... Lastly I saw some wii u footage and someone was playing on Regular Mushroom Kingdom U. And there was a moment where Some creepy rabbit dood popped out of nowhere, threw a Potato sack over Bowser's head, tossed him over his shoulder and SD'd killing himself with Bowser.... Ya that stage is banned as fuck. That rabbit is named Nabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 I knew that actually. That dang nabbit varmant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Made some changes to the rules. Omega Battlefield is replacing Final Destination on the Starter list of stages. Participants also must abide the selector's choice of Omega Stages Here is a list of stages I am considering for the Wii U version of the game... Starter: Battlefield Omega Battlefield Smashville Counter Pick: Final Destination Battlefield Big Battlefield Castle Siege Delfino Plaza Kongo Jungle Lylat Cruise Mushroom Kingdom U Pilot Wings Skyloft Smashville Town and City I also have seen a ton of tournaments allowing Prism Tower in the smash 3DS scene... anyone have any opinions on that. I once did allow Prism Tower and Tortimer's Island... But those stages had hazards that harmed gameplay... any Opinions on this?I updated the OP and tested out most of these stages for Wii U counter picks. I haven't tested out Big Battlefield, Kongo Jungle, Castle Siege, or Duck Hunt yet. But I did test the rest.Mushroom Kingdom U, Pilot Wings, and Skyloft are banned. Mushroom Kingdom U has the Nabbit stage hazard. If he didn't exist I would have considered this stage more. pilot wings tilts like how lylat cruise does, but way worse to where it can actually harm gameplay. The plane can also collide with a cliff and kill a player randomly. Lastly, Skyloft is out because there are some stage elements that can drag a player off screen unfairly with no way to get back to the stage. There were also some changes in the additional rules regarding Bowser, Rosalina, Yoshi, Zero Suit Samus, and Peach that was removed due for the 1.0.4 patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Kinda got bored and updated this. I want to run more tournaments, but between a mix between awkward time intervals and the fact that this game is split between two separate games (Wii U/3DS) it makes things a bit awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonicEevee Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) when will tourneys be held for 3ds. i would like to get in on the action. also, what is the rule on taunts. and is ganoncide allowed? Edited June 4, 2015 by EonicEevee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Will note that some 3DS tournaments have been enabling Brinstar as a counterpick stage, so that is something to consider as well. Also, GOML's Wii U ruleset had ruled Kongo Jungle, Castle Siege, Skyloft, and Ω-form Gaur Plain as legal counterpick stages in addition to those listed on the OP. Town and City was named a Starter/Neutral stage almost unanimously in the most recent Smash 4 ruleset survey on Smashboards. Note on Ω-form stages: Typically, if and when Ω-form stages are legal, those that have straight down the stagesides to the bottom blast line are banned as they give an advantage to characters that can wall-jump, and also hinder some KO methods (such as stage spiking). Preferred Ω-form stages will have medium- to short-length slanted walls below the stagesides which encourage stage spiking and discourage wall-jump recoveries. Typically there will be only one Ω-form stage legal, but it depends on the tournament. The game is still fresh and rules are still, of course, tentative. The following Ω-form stages are mostly agreed upon as good Ω's: An asterisk ( * ) denotes preferred Ω-form stage due to likeness to Final Destination 3DS Gaur Plain* Battlefield Final Destination 3D Land Rainbow Road Jungle Japes Spirit Train Corneria Mute City Magicant Arena Ferox Wii U Palutena's Temple* Gaur Plain* Battlefield Final Destination Delfino Plaza Mario Circuit Mario Circuit (Brawl) Kongo Jungle Skyloft Pyrosphere Norfair Port Town Aero Dive Halberd Orbital Gate Assault Lylat Cruise Pokemon Stadium 2 Castle Siege Flat Zone X Skyworld Smashville Town and City Wuhu Island Pilotwings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Cool will add. Also, if there is a need for a 6th counter pick for 3DS, I will go with Brinstar. Though I might just go with that over Arena Ferox, we will hafta test that later. As for Wii U stages, I am well aware with what stages some tournaments are legal and which are not. I purposely left Town and City out of the neutral pick to; A. Get matches to start faster. B. Town and city is not a Truely neutral stage that gives an unfair advantage to Fox, Pikachu, Yoshi, Diddy Kong, ROB, and Rosalina. (From the top of my head) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlow Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Three neutrals or five neutrals are fine. I respect your decision on town and city but i personally support its position in the neutral simply because stage strikes are a thing. Just my two cents. If you launch any tourneys, i'll be playin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) I have soe questions, Gentleman's rule for any agreed stage/ Each stage only once rule? DLC character fates since not everybody has them? Will DLC stages be legal since they are good stages other than ryu's? Edited June 22, 2015 by blasterman4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have soe questions, Gentleman's rule for any agreed stage/ Each stage only once rule? DLC character fates since not everybody has them? Will DLC stages be legal since they are good stages other than ryu's? The only thing I can really speak to is the fates of the stages. Right now, Dream Land 64 is a counterpick stage (assuming both players have it, otherwise banned), Suzaku Castle is banned, and the fate of Miiverse is still up in the air, but I would imagine it becomes counterpick as well. Personally, I think it is best to treat Miiverse as banned for the time being. As for the characters, we might follow suit of the larger-scale tournaments in that all three will be banned until after EVO, which is in mid-July. That gives ample time to practice matchups both offline and online, and allows us to make sure that the fighters' balance is on par with the other fighters. After that, I'd wager that you will be able to pick the DLC fighters even if your opponent does not have them, unlike stages; at least that's how I remember it working with Mewtwo in online matches. Of course this is speculation, wolf/godot has the final say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 If I had a tournament like now, I would allow Ryu, Roy, Mewtwo, and Lucas, but as for Dreamland 64, not sure. Simply because not everyone has that stage. I wish it could be included, but the fact that no one has it hurts it. It is a great counter pick that was insanely popular among competitve melee players and it suits the playstyle of most close range or heavyweight characters and that is a great stage dynamic to have in the mix. It's just the "not everyone has it" quirk that is weird. I am kinda running along by my own rules rather than EVO's there is a few things with the official Smash ruleset that I am not a huge fan of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireheart4560 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 ok listen hereI would like to join, but I don't see dream land on that stage list.>not everyone has the dlcso? one person just needs it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 That doesn't make everything fair for everyone, though I should update the rules to contain Duck Hunt since that stage was free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Basically what Godot said. It would allow the person who does own it to have an advantage because they've been able to practice on the stage while the other person hasn't had the opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 I would only allow Dreamland 64 in an offline environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonBeastMan Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Does anyone wanna fight me in 3DS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Does anyone wanna fight me in 3DS? it would be better to ask such things in the official general wii u/3ds sm4sh thread, it's common practice to ask for challengers their Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 would 1111 mii's be allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 would 1111 mii's be allowed? Trust me, they aren't worth using. The only one who's better moves are the defaults is Swordfighter, and that one still suffers from a lot of endlag and extremely subpar recovery. With customs, they are a hell of a lot better. Just one move change alone gets rid of one of the worst moves in the game on Brawler and replaces it with the best possible move in his kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Trust me, they aren't worth using. The only one who's better moves are the defaults is Swordfighter, and that one still suffers from a lot of endlag and extremely subpar recovery. With customs, they are a hell of a lot better. Just one move change alone gets rid of one of the worst moves in the game on Brawler and replaces it with the best possible move in his kit. gunner can be argued, since it has good recovery and is able to cover it better w/ 1111, even though missiles are better then the PK fire clone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hey guys,Just learned a trick that if you pick Random, the game's stage choice defaults to that of your opponent. This makes Dream Land 64 a more feasible option assuming at least one of the players has the stage. This is something to consider for future amendments of the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 ...Link has a chain grab? What is this, 64? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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