Chim Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I... Ex is still confusing... He's either giving us vital information or tons of Red Herrings. Or he's Saphira cause at this point I can't think of anybody who'd want to save ExLink, considering the fact that tons of people wanted to lynch him. Sheep though sounds like he's hiding something... If he's Saphira he should've done things differently because that's one of towns best roles. He just painted a large target on his back which is something I'm not comfortable with and that's why I changed my vote for now. On the other hand I don't see any reason as why he would do this. He might think it's better if he ends up as a sacrifice, but if he's wrong and a Mafia I've no idea what he's thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Who should have been lynched early like I said......they can't be wasting our time later if we kill them all right away. This is why I said to do it earlier, and everyone said I sounded Mafia. Maybe it seems like a Mafia move, but in the Game of Mafia, Silent Towns are the expendable ones, so it isn't a Mafia move at all. A Mafia move is to shift attention onto townies that are talking and actually being active. If they get you to use Lynch on somebody that is actually doing things for town, they get your lynch and they get a hit for free. So their goal is too get 2 Pro Town and leave the silent people and the ones not doing anything laying around. They also leave the good towns that people aren't trusting because they are likely to be lynched in their place. Now town is in Crunch Time as town. We are coming up to the point were we are losing the number advantage, and we can't even trust any of these people not talking. ((which is a hell of a lot.)) So the mafia can get oof easy by having some seem useful to town, and have the others ones hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 The problem with your statement (Hukuna) is that it assumes I can help you. At this point in the game though there's not much to cover. I'm a prime suspect, EXLink is a prime suspect, Tacos and yourself are also prime suspects by virtue at an attempt at hiding in plain sight. Rose, Chim, and Zeph are the only other one's that have been remotely active, and I don't have much to say about them. I haven't seen any patterns in their voting or anything of the sort. If you really want me to point out something that looks suspicious it is perhaps Zeph's eternal hesitation, but even that isn't really conclusive of anything that I can see. Just something I've noticed. Like you've just outlined, there are tons of people who we know nothing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Huh. The game's harder as a townie >> that's funny even, considering how initially we have the number advantage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Any town who says nothing isn't a town because they aren't doing anything at all. Hell half the people being silent really aren't playing the game and that is the problem, If everyone is quiet there is nothing town can do to make leads because everyone is just like nope, not talking. This is why I said lynch the early, we wouldn't be having this problem if we did. Having a bunch of towns doesn't matter if they don't do shit ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 ((does double posting counts here?)) The problem with your statement (Hukuna) is that it assumes I can help you. At this point in the game though there's not much to cover. I'm a prime suspect, EXLink is a prime suspect, Tacos and yourself are also prime suspects by virtue at an attempt at hiding in plain sight. Rose, Chim, and Zeph are the only other one's that have been remotely active, and I don't have much to say about them. I haven't seen any patterns in their voting or anything of the sort. If you really want me to point out something that looks suspicious it is perhaps Zeph's eternal hesitation, but even that isn't really conclusive of anything that I can see. Just something I've noticed. Like you've just outlined, there are tons of people who we know nothing about. I just don't want to be quick to vote or assume anything. For all I know, I could be contributing to lynching a normal Townie instead of Mafia or a harmful Townie which wouldn't help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 If we lynch them now we lose number advantage. Aside from that I don't think it would've helped since there are so many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 What I am saying in general. Since people are new they are being super quiet as well, which makes for a super boring game where nothing happens. Heck that is one of the only reasons I am willing to trust Ex right now....because while he may be insane, at least he is doing something. It may have been a bit better if we didn't lose Charlotte Day 1 since we would have had a kill power, which either eliminates a Mafia member, or somebody the town keeps getting their focus drawn to, so they are distracting the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Alright let's take a look at everyone still alive: 1. Tacos: Randomly points to people which I found suspicious, claims to be a normal townie, Exlink trusts him.2. EXLink: Completely nuts, saved by Saphira and knows who he/she is, painted a target on his back and claims Sheep is Lin.3. Sheep: Active and tries to save himself, doesn’t blame anyone else since he claims he doesn’t see any patterns.4. Hukuna: Active, trusts EXLink and Felix for now, said before he’s willing to die because he’s a normal townie.5. Rosesong: Suspected by a few people, said she supports town from the shadows and votes. She might be keeping a low profile so she won’t be lynched.7. Zephyr: Active, careful with voting.9. Felix: Became active and is wary of EXLink. At this point he’s willing to trust Hukuna.10. Neo: Replaced by Snap. She’s just in the game but already voted and gave her reason. Not much to say for now.11. Sir_Bagel: Pops up very little and I think he voted once. I gave him my vote as a placeholder but I count him as inactive.12. Azery: Haven’t seen him around except maybe day 1? Inactive.13. Hilda: Only votes by giving a name and no reason as far as I can tell. She votes on people who already were suspected. Not of much help.14. Secundum: Replaced by Sparky who got lynched before because he jumped the bandwagon. That may be his reason to keep a low profile, doesn’t trust EXLink.15. Jelly: Is around and voted on Hukuna once. Can’t say much about him.17. Chimchain: I’ll leave this for someone else to fill in, but I have my doubts about EXLink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 ((does double posting counts here?)) No. Due to the rules of the game I'm giving an official dispensation to go wild on the quadruple posting if you want. Abuse it while you've got it, but do make sure there's still content there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yea since we can't edit we kinda need to be able to in case we miss something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I forgot to put my conclusion: Hilda, Azery and Bagel are those I count as inactive or contributing the least. After tonight we see who was right with the entire EXLink / Sheep thing. Maybe we should vote for one of them. According to Hukuna there might be a Mafia hiding between them. I agree with that btw. If EXLink is wrong: Tacos is the next in line for me since EXLink said he trusts him. It may be a trap, but considering I suspected him earlier I'm willing to take that risk. If EXLink is right: Felix will find himself in a really bad place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Like I said earlier, Felix is strange to me as initially he was all for going against Hukuna... Then switched to agreeing with him and explaining himself once he was being suspected... did I miss anything to explain that, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Is Saphira trying to stall for time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Rest assured, town. -MY- lack of activity is largely due to this being my first forum game of Mafia, and my own life getting in the way. Due to my inexperience, if someone WANTS to seem like they want the noose, I am forced to think either those campaigning for votes are the Drunks out there, automatically winning the round, or the Mafia who wants you to -think- he's the drunk and is attempting to induce reverse-psychology on the jury. I don't want to break the rule of giving away my role, be it significant or unimportant. So far I've been lurking and picking up on adequate patterns of discussion. This is my first rodeo, and if I am going to compete, I better know what seems to be working and what isn't. Early in the game, the town has to decide if the ones that talk the MOST are the Mafia, or the ones that are being quiet are. The Townies need to co-operate to lynch the right man, so I would assume a forum discussion, that allows votes to be frozen in time for reference, along with all other discussion, would -hardly- be decisive at all, because the "smartest" play is to follow the crowd in the beginning. My appeal here is this. I'm new at this, and I have a life to attend to outside of the forums. That -shouldn't- tell you ANYTHING about whether I am a friend or a foe to you all. Only that the majority of my actions up to this point are to follow the learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I apologize for my inactivity yesterday, was a very busy day. After reading things over, my lynch vote goes to Sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Even if sheep is mafia, how will I find myself in a bad place? Can you blame for not trusting a insane person? And what about the others who voted for exlink? How come you don`t talk about them as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Even if sheep is mafia, how will I find myself in a bad place? Can you blame for not trusting a insane person? And what about the others who voted for exlink? How come you don`t talk about them as well? Because you are the only one who actively tried to save Sheep / get EXLink lynched by trying to get a tie. And I mentioned them before but they weren't as active as you. If Sheep is lynched it doesn't matter who he voted for (If he's Mafia), Sparky said he didn't trust EXLink either so that might be an option as well, but he didn't do it as actively as you. I also mentioned I have my own doubts, but I don't think he's Mafia. And I never accused you of being Mafia by stating you would be in a bad position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Because you are the only one who actively tried to save Sheep / get EXLink lynched by trying to get a tie. And I mentioned them before but they weren't as active as you. If Sheep is lynched it doesn't matter who he voted for (If he's Mafia), Sparky said he didn't trust EXLink either so that might be an option as well, but he didn't do it as actively as you. I also mentioned I have my own doubts, but I don't think he's Mafia. And I never accused you of being Mafia by stating you would be in a bad position. The reason to get a tie is so we can counter Saphira's ability. We can't afford another save from her. I also wanted to have a compromise between both sheep voters and exlink voters. Is that hard to ask for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurorix Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 The reason to get a tie is so we can counter Saphira's ability. We can't afford another save from her. I also wanted to have a compromise between both sheep voters and exlink voters. Is that hard to ask for? Even so if there was a coin flip Saphira could still veto any lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Even so if there was a coin flip Saphira could still veto any lynch This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Even so if there was a coin flip Saphira could still veto any lynch I wonder if she gets told who is getting lynch in the event of a tie? If she doesn't get told in advance, then she would try to pardon who she values the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurorix Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I wonder if she gets told who is getting lynch in the event of a tie? If she doesn't get told in advance, then she would try to pardon who she values the most. I don't think it works like that -_-' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 In the event of a tie, the tiebreaker will be presented, then Saphira will be able to choose to Pardon or not. Since the lynch has yet to be determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 The reason to get a tie is so we can counter Saphira's ability. We can't afford another save from her. I also wanted to have a compromise between both sheep voters and exlink voters. Is that hard to ask for? Why would you want to counter Saphira after EXLink said he/she wouldn't interfere if Sheep was lynched? It think he/she would interfere if we try to lynch him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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