Tacos Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Well, let's see. We already have for the most part, unless someone is lying, the identities of all powered townies. We also have the identity of me as Fern. You accused me of perhaps being Craudberry, which leaves us with only Elliot as a possibility for you, where as there is a 4:1 chance you aren't a towny. If you're so concerned that Shade is Zephyr, than I'm almost certain you're a mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 goes and votes for Hilda So as to stay true to my reasoning, I'm going to vote for... oh crap, that means Azery/Ex is now active... shoot, that means the Mafia is one of us active people. goddamnit Zephy make up your mind ((best reasoning skills ever, at 1:27 in the morning)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I would like to hear why you are suddenly so certain I'm Mafia. You certainly aren't reading every post since you missed EXLink is back in the game and before that you were following my every vote. Amuse me. You could reveal yourself as a normal townie though, if you're that certain no one can step up and deny your claims. And the normal townies don't really have anything to lose by revealing themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Well, let's see. We already have for the most part, unless someone is lying, the identities of all powered townies. We also have the identity of me as Fern. You accused me of perhaps being Craudberry, which leaves us with only Elliot as a possibility for you, where as there is a 4:1 chance you aren't a towny. If you're so concerned that Shade is Zephyr, than I'm almost certain you're a mafia. You know that Craudberry was just an example to get a reaction out of Zephyr right? As you could've been every other Townie aside from Fern. And Jelly already claimed to be Elliot and may I refere you to an earlier post Jericho made? If too much people claim a role he has to shuffle everyone around and we're back to square one. But thanks for clarifying. Your vote doesn't make any sense because I never accused you for being Craudberry (not that it makes any difference). Your 4:1 chance is acceptable but that counts for everyone else as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The only way Shade is harmful to the town is if were to remain alive. That's what sort of makes going after the ...i dunno...the MAFIA. ...take precedence. With that being said, I will now finally change my vote to Chim. Chim is one of the six people that isn't confirmed or even suspected of a role, and the bulk of the remaining roles belong to Mafia members or result in a late game loss condition for the Town. If this is the first townie that ends up being killed for speaking up, then I'll be looked at with reasonable suspicion the next day. Zephyr, If you are Shade or a fellow townie, You might consider that this man is willing to kill you even if you are a shadow who wishes to remain visible, and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 How can you be so sure about Tacos being Fern? For all we know he's that old Craudberry and was messing with us. Unless you of course investigated him, which is one of Shade's powers, and this is an attempt to not lynch you. I change my vote to Zephyr because I believe she's Shade. I rather lynch Shade instead of someone who may be a townie after all. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 You could reveal yourself as a normal townie though, if you're that certain no one can step up and deny your claims. And the normal townies don't really have anything to lose by revealing themselves. Again; read Jericho's posts. Too many people claiming roles will screw up the game. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 ^ Craudberry was used as an example. But fine, lynch me. You'll gain nothing from it. I chose to spare Jelly because I've no idea who he is (and may be a townie) than let Shade room around while he's a thread. I never heard anyone complain when I was considering Sparky or Snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That's because Sparky and Snap are probable Mafia members, given what we know, and assuming those that -HAVE- chosen to go outside are telling the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That's because Sparky and Snap are probable Mafia members, given what we know, and assuming those that -HAVE- chosen to go outside are telling the truth. I don't agree. For all we know Azery, Jelly, Zephyr could also be a Mafia member. But yeah since everyone else already claimed an innocent role (and to avoid Jericho from switching things) I won't do so. Believe what you want but before you agreed with me by voting on Shade. Now Tacos votes on me without any decent reason (like I posted before) and you follow him? GG I'm completely confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Vote count Jellyman: 1 (Sparky) Zephyr: 1 (Chimchain) Chimchain: 2 (Tacos, Hilda) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I do agree that I don't want to Shade to win and that if Shade were to pass it would be beneficial to everyone, Town or Mafia. I was waiting for someone to vote you before, but if you want a reminder of his rationale, here it is. He claims that you have been rather 'accusatory'. I don't need to read back and see where this was for now, because my reasoning for changing my vote doesn't relate with Tacos' reason. In a game with multiple mafia members, there's always ONE of them that is actively in the discussion (generally, if you want to try and pick my statement apart.) To me, your demeanor matches the deceased Felix'... Both of you are playing the game with a hard nose. I would be surprised if both of you were townies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Hilda, I appreciate your concern for me. But to avoid hypocrisy, I'm gonna have to go for Snap, to draw her out. ((and I thought that whoever wins, so long as Shade lives, he wins too?)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I do agree that I don't want to Shade to win and that if Shade were to pass it would be beneficial to everyone, Town or Mafia. I was waiting for someone to vote you before, but if you want a reminder of his rationale, here it is. He claims that you have been rather 'accusatory'. I don't need to read back and see where this was for now, because my reasoning for changing my vote doesn't relate with Tacos' reason. In a game with multiple mafia members, there's always ONE of them that is actively in the discussion (generally, if you want to try and pick my statement apart.) To me, your demeanor matches the deceased Felix'... Both of you are playing the game with a hard nose. I would be surprised if both of you were townies. I explained all my reasons for votes. He followed me blindly on sometimes and I certainly didn't point at random people. That's why I was on the fence since he does things like that. Now the second one is something I can't argue with. I do like to be involved and find out roles, but that's the way I play it. If I go down because of this I don't care. Townie/Shade/Mafia doesn't matter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Zephyr Shade isn't on anybody's side, but the Mafia can't win unless they've killed everyone that isn't the mafia or have enough votes to control the game. The mafia has a better chance at fulfilling their role if Shade dies. The Townspeople don't get to share a win with Shade. Shade wins if he survives, Town wins if Shade dies as well as the Mafia does. ...there may be some discrepancies here, but if you're Shade, you don't want to tell anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 ...there may be some discrepancies here, but if you're Shade, you don't want to tell anyone. You do know 6 people already claimed a role right? A bit too late to say this now... xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 There's a difference between claiming a townie role and a role like Shade's. - You -want- people to know you're a townie. That keeps suspicion off of you. In games where you're -NOT- allowed to mention what role you have, you want to at least have a good alibi and be paying attention. Ultimately, it's up to the Mafia and your fellow townies to believe you. - If you're Shade, and you TELL everyone that you are Shade, it draws the mafia's suspicions to you (putting you at risk for getting hit) and it draws the townspeople's suspicions either to you, or away from you. (depending on if the town is not too concerned with offing Shade if they were telling the truth, or if the Mafia members are taking more of a precedence from a lynching standpoint.) My vote for your lynching, for example, comes from you being perfectly content to kill someone because they may be Shade. Shade isn't directly harmful to the town unless they aren't killed or lynched eventually. For now, the three remaining mafia members are more important targets. ...and "Shade" is more of a threat to the Mafia than he is two the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Obviously there is enough reasonable doubt present, that Jericho shuffling the roles isn't a worry of mine. We have roles claimed all over by now, and yet, we still don't seem to have an "obvious" consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurorix Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Well, I kinda feel left out because everyone is claiming to be Shade. ;~; So, I'ma join kuz why not I'm Shade '3' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 #Bandwagon it "I'm Shade" :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 omg guys no Jericho'll shuffle the roles and we'll have to play this guessing game again >>;; I mean Shade's a really cool creepy guy but come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 There's a difference between claiming a townie role and a role like Shade's. - You -want- people to know you're a townie. That keeps suspicion off of you. In games where you're -NOT- allowed to mention what role you have, you want to at least have a good alibi and be paying attention. Ultimately, it's up to the Mafia and your fellow townies to believe you. - If you're Shade, and you TELL everyone that you are Shade, it draws the mafia's suspicions to you (putting you at risk for getting hit) and it draws the townspeople's suspicions either to you, or away from you. (depending on if the town is not too concerned with offing Shade if they were telling the truth, or if the Mafia members are taking more of a precedence from a lynching standpoint.) My vote for your lynching, for example, comes from you being perfectly content to kill someone because they may be Shade. Shade isn't directly harmful to the town unless they aren't killed or lynched eventually. For now, the three remaining mafia members are more important targets. ...and "Shade" is more of a threat to the Mafia than he is two the town. Obviously there is enough reasonable doubt present, that Jericho shuffling the roles isn't a worry of mine. We have roles claimed all over by now, and yet, we still don't seem to have an "obvious" consensus. I agree that removing Shade is a move that can be seen as an advantage for the Mafia. I decided to do it because you said I was right before and thought I would gain support. Zephyr obviously misunderstood. And no there isn't. At this point only 1 person has to claim his / her role to reveal everything. I can't even hide by saying "Hey, I'm Craudberry, don't lynch me!" because if you believe me there are only 3 people left. If you don't and 'another' Craudberry reveals herself I pretty much reveal every role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosesong Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Ok, Zeph convinced me she's not Shade because if she knows who Tacos is for sure, she must have had an investigation power at one point. Take that info as you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Ok, Zeph convinced me she's not Shade because if she knows who Tacos is for sure, she must have had an investigation power at one point. Take that info as you will Shade can investigate. Power solved. She already confessed in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Rose, Exlink confirmed me towny when he was Saphira, as well as the fact Shade can investigate every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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