Bfroger6 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 but saber of red is second best saberHe's talking about the playable Saber in the game, who basically looks the same as Saber but has a red dress instead of a blue one, lol.Call me unoriginal, but I'm playing the game with Archer as my servant, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 and my avi doesn't at all by the by. ((cause even when I had Berserker, he was much different kind of Berserker than mine is.)) And Gilgamesh is definitely Evil, ((it has nothing to do with him killing Rider, if you remember he ends up respecting him in his own way, deeming him the only servant worth using Ea against. He respects Rider enough that he doesn't kill Waver even though he easily could have, so that he can fulfill his King's last wish.)) I am sorry but the crap Gil does in Zero at least I can't say he is a good guy. Good People don't manipulate people for their enjoyment. Not sure how one can think a guy that tells people that they should literally do anything they enjoy ((EVEN IF IT IS MUDERERING PEOPLE.......)) is not at least partially evil. And it you guys make it sound like me saying he is evil means I hate the character.....that is not the case at all. ((Now, he is no where near as Evil as Caster was, cause uh...well I don't even need to explain that.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 so, can Caster detect people entering Hysteria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yea, she can and already has. ((in fact she basically could find Nadia if you were paying attention. Since she sent a familiar to go get her.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I kind of wanted to have a bit of talking between my and hakuna's character on my last post so that's why she didn't say anything about Saber(she is also a little distracted by Nadia as well)but that's probably will change in the next time I post.(a servant will definitely set off red flags once they enter she didn't say much about Rider because of how fast they left the area but saber is actually staying with in it so yeah she knows) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 oi, my MA bros should be paying attention here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Feel free to let Saber encounter Nadia and Berserker by the way, I will leave it up to you Murdoc. ((she will run into him eventually, I will just let you decide when.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I'm paying attention to both posts religiously. I haven't found anything to do yet, so I'll work off of what happens next. Hels is just outside the field with a materialized Lancer atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Wait so he's made it to the field? I was waiting on a post detailing the fact that he's actually gone there. I guess it's my turn to step in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Shit could get super real, or nothing is going to happen. I guess it depends on Murdoc's Character what ultimately goes down. Since...well they are about to get news that is going to change their plans entirely, since they had no idea Berserker was there. ((and oh yea, forget Archer was going to run across Lancer, Sheep wanted to do that lol.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Let me get this straight before I do write anything though Flynn. Was Hels with Siegfried on the walk to Caster's territory, or did they go separately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 .....I am not actually sure lol, would be best to figure out though. There isn't a single Master that is a non-factor in this war, they can all do something. ((basically there are no super weak mages so the masters are enough of threats it is kinda important if they are around or not.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 In case this seems inconsistent, I'll just mention that Beowulf was both a loyal "knight" (they didn't really have them) and very arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 oh wait.....question.....would Berserker be immune to any attack Beowulf makes with his sword? It ranks as D as a Noble Phantasm and any attack at D or lower Berserker is completely immune to.... I thought it was higher than that....why I never asked before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Hels left about a little less than a minute after Siegfried and walked behind him after a very short convo with Lancer (about to post this now) and came up to him moments after Saber left. Edited November 17, 2014 by Flynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Funnily enough I think the answer to that one is yes. However, because of his massive strength stat, he'd be able to damage Berserker using his bare hands instead. Any attacks coming from the sword should be stopped though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 oh wait.....question.....would Berserker be immune to any attack Beowulf makes with his sword? It ranks as D as a Noble Phantasm and any attack at D or lower Berserker is completely immune to.... I thought it was higher than that....why I never asked before. Beowulf's Strength is A+, the D rank is the acid blade attack. (Which still causes more damage than a regular attack, but would be blocked by your NP. edit: frigging ninja. I assumed the blows delivered came from his Strength stat and not from the rank of the weapon itself, otherwise he would be able to just pick up an iron rod and beat Berserker to death with it since the rod has no rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Area's like this work in a very strictly by the books manner. Anything D rank or lower is affected, the question is whether the sword is considered D rank or whether the ability is. If the ability of the sword is the noble phantasm then only the ability will be blocked, whereas if the sword itself is the noble phantasm then the sword will be useless. Is that clear enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Gods it hurt to just cut into a fight with that post. I guess I just imagined it like. Fight began, begin to test waters, commercial break, scene pans out to outside the field, Hels arrives, continue fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I think NPs attached to an item their Rank is the level of their attacks no matter what. Basically, while it has that function, it is still a D-Ranked attack when just using the sword, making Berserker immune to it. Like, most NPs, their rank even applies to just using it, not just the super thing it can do. Also...it kinda makes sense in a way...since didn't Beowulf beat the ever living pulp out of Grundle with his fists? ((and ninja'd)) Also, hold off the the battle until we know for sure Murdoc, I want to be absolutely clear what is going on ((since it matters a great deal.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Beowulf tore his arm off, and then Grendel bled to death. He kills Grendel's mother with the "sword forged by giants" and then fights the dragon with Naegling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yea, so the Sword ((with the ability being a function of the sword.)) is the NP then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yeah. Question; do attacks just glance away, do they hit but do nothing, or is there a barrier of some sort that physically stops the blow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 They will connect, but do absolutely nothing. Basically, it isn't like a ridiculous glancing blow. It will appear to have struck true. However, as a good swordsmen I think Beowulf will notice what happens with it not actually injuring Berserker, but merely appearing to at first. ((also if he ever has Macbeth go through his mind it will trigger Berserker's other NP the first time, just keep that in mind, though I don't reckon he will get that to happen in the first encounter.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Oh joy i made something amusing happen hehehe just what until caster feels like "supporting" Berserker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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