Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh, I misread that....welp i feel stupid, I thought he was just preparing for a counter...I didn't know he attacked. Begin Operation: Hukuna is Dumb. Have to edit this in a way that is reasonable...give me a bit.....XD And remember kids, this is why you don't skim read, it never ends well. Don't want to double post, but I need to so Murdoc knows I have Edited the Post, carry on with the battle good Sir. ((and sorry, I really am an idiot.....XD)) E: hukuna pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 A note for those less educated about medieval weaponry and combat styles for those that know a bit less than I: There's a reason huge, two-handed swords never saw broad use beyond the ceremonial. To maintain an effective assault, one swings it much as you would swing an axe or a hammer; in what amounts to a double loop, preserving as much momentum as one can between swings. This is brutally effective if you're facing undisciplined troops or someone not focusing on you, but the timing is fairly simple for a trained swordsman. It's why lighter weapons like the small sword and rapier rose in popularity; it doesn't matter how heavy your blade is, if you poke an internal organ, your opponent dies; shearing him and his horse in half is unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ^ ding ding ding. but yea 2 handed weapons are pretty shit in practical use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Just trying to justify how a guy could tackle someone swinging a zweihander around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 don't need to justify too much Fate tends to use the Rule of Cool for its illogical use of things at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 also caster had better intervene or berserker may be sans an arm soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yea...I am totally not getting lucky in his rage activating XD, so need some help here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 don't worry Caster threw a rock at him. a really heavy rock that she can make heavier if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'll wait a bit to post Siegfried's reaction to Archer and Saber's arrival, since if I did so now the timeline would get awkward in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 yea, give them a few posts to get things rolling then have Saber come careening in XD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ...shit. He left Naegling behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Oh....that could be a problem.....XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yeah. His fists might hit crazy hard but swords are reach, and reach is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I wish I posted earlier to give Lancer and Saber more time to have at it, dammit. But yeah, take your time getting there ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yea, He is going to have trouble with other Servants now. Against Berserker he doesn't need it since well it doesn't hurt him anyway, and Berserker is almost as short ranged as he is. ((Berserker is probably bigger, so he has further reach...not sure if he is actually slower...need to look, but Saber can get close to him it is harder for him to get him away.)) Basically, Saber has an advantage aginst Berserker so long as he is in stage 1 rage, an even match more or less when he is in stage 2, and might totally lose if the curse triggers. ((since I don;t know if Saber could get away form him very easily if it came on.)) basically....Berserker need a crap load of things to go his way to win, but otherwise their battle wold stall out for bloody ever, with Saber probably winning, probably. ((they might even double down each other if Stage 2 Rage for Macbeth is triggered.)) However, ever other servant it is not going to be fun without his sword. ((especially Archer XD.)), but hey, at least Berserker can't use your Sword against you really! NPs only really work properly for their owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Unless you are a certain Knight with luxurious black hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yeah but it would make for some good bait and might end up causing saber to become the first victim of The Witch Trial who knows bwa hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Berserker should be twice as fast, actually, but your claymore doesn't really utilize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Well yea, XD. Honestly.......I have to wonder how bloody op Lancelot would have been under the Saber class..... Like his abilities under that class would have been suuuuuuuuuper op XD. Can look like anybody else, and use any weapon or improvised weapon. What is with the Spirits being summoned under Berserker, like the worst class they could ever be summoned under? ((like same thing with Fate/Stay Night's Berserker, any other class he would have been mad o.p. XD.)) Oh and sweetness.....that is actually horrifying for Saber then....Since Berserker is like an 7 ft Giant. ((pretty much over exaggerating his size.)) gives him a bit more of an edge. ((the match-up would still be bloody close though.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 pls, he's used to fighting huge monsters with unnatural speed and strength that swords cannot touch enjoy your arm while you have it, though this talk leads to another topic: if Siegfried dies (highly likely at this point) and Saber lives, would anyone take up his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) The creator said the most ideal class for Stay Night Berserker is Archer but yeah both Lancelot and Hercules would probably be a match for Gil it they actually could think more then just attack, attack, attack. Maybe it would highly depend on how and where his master died. (Josh totally would just for fun anyway....if he didn't cause the death anyway) Edited November 18, 2014 by rustytengo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I actually thought about using Mordred as Berserker in this, which might actually work better for her than Berserker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Maybe she would lose the ability to use the full power of her sword, though her fighting style fits in it a bit better. Honestly I think Macbeth is a really good Berserker since he really doesn't lose to much by being in the class like others would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I think the main problem with the Berserker class is that it like seals a lot of stuff, so I am sure She would lose something pretty significant since it always seems to happen. Macbeth actually gains more from being Mad and it was part of the reason I tried fleshing out the idea, since it was a super important part of his legend, or at least the play that ended up being the most well known version of him. I alos thought it would be interesting to have a Berserker who benefited from being Mad rather than tarnished by it. ((also, i am sure Nadia would pick up Saber if she was there at the time, but she isn't following lol. She would rather have one she could directly influence, or at least talk to XD.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yeah I actually think between the Servants and masters we all made. it would make for an entertaining anime to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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