[Spoilers: Episode 14] Logical connections

[ArthurZH]

There are a couple of things wrong with your theory Arthur, at least from what I remember of the story

First, we can confirm from Anna herself and Gossip Gardevoir's interviews that she is a leader, not an Elite 4, the psychic type leader to be specific. though I dont know how this fits in with Radomus

Second, Laura was fired from the Elite 4 in ep14 or 13, you can see it in one of her conversations with Charlotte, before Charlotte's gym battle

Third, Radomus has the Amethyst Pendant, does he have some relation to Anna? Who is radomus anyways?

My theory about the champion is very farfetched, so until more clues are given, I will refrain from embarassing myself

Edit: What is Blake's role in the story, I only know he is a very powerful Ice Trainer but there should be more to him, shouldn't there

Blake is a Meteor agent. Probably ex-ice leader who retired.

Anna was never stated to be a leader. Anna's position was referred to as "your position". Correct me if I'm wrong tho.

Thirdly, I'm talking about BEFORE everything happened.

Yea Laura got kicked, but she was E4. And Anna had the Amethyst Pendant first, wasn't it? Given to her by her father?

I'm just stating that the Ex-E4 before we came in and Reborn went into chaos was guarding the Sanctorum thingie .-. not a big deal but yea, its something that I thought you guys should know

[Jayoku]

Reviewing Shofu's youtube playthrough, I actually change my mind, your assumption about Anna being an Elite 4 may be sound. The proof for it could be here [link]

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Also, Heather being part of the Elite 4 was stated in game to be a possible result of her mother previously being the Elite 4 and the keeper of the Amethyst Pendant

I don't know if this counts, but it applies to most Elite 4 members. Charlotte found the Sapphire Ring when her parents had died, so it's safe to assume one of them was an E4 as well, if we go with the theory that the E4 were the key-keepers.

So up until now, Heather's Laura's and Anna's parents may all be Elite 4, which brings me to my next question, a matter that I think is very important for the story;

Who the f*** is Radomus, in the Reborn site leader page, Anna is indeed listed as a leader and because her team is supposedly made of psychic types, I think we can assume she isn't the champion because Ame wouldnt make the chamption have a monotype team, as that would be too easy. So my theory is as follows; Radomus is related to Anna, could he be her father? I'm only basing this on his interview, but he said he danced on his soulmates soul or something along those lines. Could his soulmate be Anna's mother? As stated in a previous theory, Anna has the power to do the impossible, as does Radomus, now what if she had inherited that power from him ? This is wild speculation here but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts on the matter

Forgot to mention that he is also the keeper of the Amethyst pendant

[laggless01]

I think Anna is E4. I meant having heard that somewhere, but don't know when.
Indeed, a lot about Radomus is pretty vague, just like G.G. Anna being the daughter of Radomus might explain the strange end of her interview.
P.S. you can find his soulmate buried in Beryl Cemetary, just like a certain person called Connal...

[Alilatias]

As of late, I'm thinking more about the keys themselves. What they unlock is most likely nothing like what Team Meteor believes. There's still the question of what that voice was supposed to be when we left that underground tower. The keys are most likely related to whatever THAT is - two keys were used to ascend the tower, after all. Some sort of power did leave Adrienn frozen in time for a decade before the power of the two keys supposedly freed xem. But obviously xe wasn't the only being that was sealed there, we've partially unsealed something else, and that's what the voice may be.

The keys may also hold some other power beyond unsealing stuff, power that they exert on their bearers if they're held for long periods of time.

Think about what happened to the holders of each key.

- Amaria (Sapphire Bracelet): Emotionally unstable, as if she is unable to find love or happiness no matter how hard she looks. The Bracelet used to be in the possession of Laura's family as well (although from a really long time ago), and we all know Laura is quite odd. She has a particular obsession with the number 8, among other things.

- Anna (Amethyst Pendant): She has strange powers, that much we know. But of all the bearers, she seems the most sane. As soon as the pendant was taken from her though, she fell incredibly ill for a while.

- Luna (Emerald Brooch): She seems to not remember things, or she refuses to acknowledge reality. She no longer has the Brooch, but it doesn't seem to affect her much. We'll likely see her again, though.

- Heather (Ruby Ring): Both Heather and the player probably haven't held the ring long enough for any effects to occur if this theory is any correct. But the previous holder, Corey, was desperate to keep the ring, even joining Team Meteor to keep it. In the end, shortly after he lost the ring to Heather, he realized how much pain he caused and committed suicide.

...Come to think of it, does anyone remember what Solaris said about each key underneath the Grand Stairway? Like one being the Seal of Love and so on?

Edited December 31, 2014 by Alilatias

[Xiri]

As of late, I'm thinking more about the keys themselves. What they unlock is most likely nothing like what Team Meteor believes. There's still the question of what that voice was supposed to be when we left that underground tower. The keys are most likely related to whatever THAT is - two keys were used to ascend the tower, after all. Some sort of power did leave Adrienn frozen in time for a decade before the power of the two keys supposedly freed xem. But obviously xe wasn't the only being that was sealed there, we've partially unsealed something else, and that's what the voice may be.

The keys may also hold some other power beyond unsealing stuff, power that they exert on their bearers if they're held for long periods of time.

Think about what happened to the holders of each key.

- Amaria (Sapphire Bracelet): Emotionally unstable, as if she is unable to find love or happiness no matter how hard she looks. The Bracelet used to be in the possession of Laura's family as well (although from a really long time ago), and we all know Laura is quite odd. She has a particular obsession with the number 8, among other things.

- Anna (Amethyst Pendant): She has strange powers, that much we know. But of all the bearers, she seems the most sane. As soon as the pendant was taken from her though, she fell incredibly ill for a while.

- Luna (Emerald Brooch): She seems to not remember things, or she refuses to acknowledge reality. She no longer has the Brooch, but it doesn't seem to affect her much. We'll likely see her again, though.

- Heather (Ruby Ring): Both Heather and the player probably haven't held the ring long enough for any effects to occur if this theory is any correct. But the previous holder, Corey, was desperate to keep the ring, even joining Team Meteor to keep it. In the end, shortly after he lost the ring to Heather, he realized how much pain he caused and committed suicide.

...Come to think of it, does anyone remember what Solaris said about each key underneath the Grand Stairway? Like one being the Seal of Love and so on?

I thought Laura's obsession came from her trauma at the orphanage? Anyway...

Ruby was the seal of pain, sapphire was love, amethyst was the beyond. Can't remember what Emerald represented

[MetalKing1417]

- Heather (Ruby Ring): Both Heather and the player probably haven't held the ring long enough for any effects to occur if this theory is any correct. But the previous holder, Corey, was desperate to keep the ring, even joining Team Meteor to keep it. In the end, shortly after he lost the ring to Heather, he realized how much pain he caused and committed suicide.

Heather stopped talking or responding to people after she lost her bracelet, though that also may be from the demented psychologist's shock therapy. (probably both)

Though you do rise a good point, almost all the key holders (save maybe the player, but then as Randomus says, "You are a player character with no dialog"), especially those that inherited it, seem to lose something of themselves when they have their key stolen or lost.

Edited December 31, 2014 by MetalKing1417

[Qaaz]

As of late, I'm thinking more about the keys themselves. What they unlock is most likely nothing like what Team Meteor believes. There's still the question of what that voice was supposed to be when we left that underground tower. The keys are most likely related to whatever THAT is - two keys were used to ascend the tower, after all. Some sort of power did leave Adrienn frozen in time for a decade before the power of the two keys supposedly freed xem. But obviously xe wasn't the only being that was sealed there, we've partially unsealed something else, and that's what the voice may be.

The keys may also hold some other power beyond unsealing stuff, power that they exert on their bearers if they're held for long periods of time.

Think about what happened to the holders of each key.

- Amaria (Sapphire Bracelet): Emotionally unstable, as if she is unable to find love or happiness no matter how hard she looks. The Bracelet used to be in the possession of Laura's family as well (although from a really long time ago), and we all know Laura is quite odd. She has a particular obsession with the number 8, among other things.

- Anna (Amethyst Pendant): She has strange powers, that much we know. But of all the bearers, she seems the most sane. As soon as the pendant was taken from her though, she fell incredibly ill for a while.

- Luna (Emerald Brooch): She seems to not remember things, or she refuses to acknowledge reality. She no longer has the Brooch, but it doesn't seem to affect her much. We'll likely see her again, though.

- Heather (Ruby Ring): Both Heather and the player probably haven't held the ring long enough for any effects to occur if this theory is any correct. But the previous holder, Corey, was desperate to keep the ring, even joining Team Meteor to keep it. In the end, shortly after he lost the ring to Heather, he realized how much pain he caused and committed suicide.

...Come to think of it, does anyone remember what Solaris said about each key underneath the Grand Stairway? Like one being the Seal of Love and so on?

But what few know is that the fate of the region actually rests in the hands of a few young girls...

One who's lost her mind,

One who's lost her family,

One who's lost her memory,

And one who's lost reality...

[Masquerain]

I think Anna is E4. I meant having heard that somewhere, but don't know when.

Indeed, a lot about Radomus is pretty vague, just like G.G. Anna being the daughter of Radomus might explain the strange end of her interview.

P.S. you can find his soulmate buried in Beryl Cemetary, just like a certain person called Connal...

Sorry for my ignorance and for the necroing, but would you know where the interview with Anna may be located?

Edited May 27, 2015 by Masquerain

[Imperial]

Very interesting thread...

I also think that there's a link between the seals and their owners :

-Ruby Ring, Seal of Pain : at first a gift from Corey to his wife, who died due to it. Corey then lived in pain for the rest of his life (ended by his suicide). It now belongs to Heather, who grew up with a broken, sinister father. After his suicide, she became the "patient" of Connal and escaped just to fall in Blake's hands... An entire life of pain.

-Sapphire Bracelet, Seal of Love : at first owned by the Belroses (Charlotte, Sapphira and Laura's parents right ?), loving couple living with their beloved children in Tanzan Cove. Then gave to Amaria by Titania. Amaria continued to live just due to Titania's love. Titania who in fact was not in love with her and lied to keep her alive. A fake and complex love story whose conclusion should be in Ep 15

-Emerald Brooch, Seal of Faith : at first owned by Elias, who became a fanatic after Arceus gave him back his view. Now belongs to Luna, his daughter who rejected her father's cult. She believed Serra was her mother, then that Radomus was her father... She rejects the light and the truth of Arceus for darkness and illusions.

-Amethyst Pendant, Seal of the Beyond : the most interesting one. We don't know were it comes from, but it now belongs to Anna, a girl able to see auras. She unlocked the door of the orphanage for us because she saw us "glowing" through it. She saw burn scars on Charlotte, who metaphorically has burn scars on her soul, and without knowing her story. She can see beyond what is visible.

And all these seals seem to come from a single merchant. All the keys to Arceus' power found by a simple merchant who simply sold them ? I think that guy is very important for the story.

As we see, the seals are linked to their owners' stories. But are the characters destined to get these seals due to their story, or does the seals cause them to have such lives ? I both cases, a possibility is that the seals aren't the keys but symbols to show the true keys : the characters. Think about it : Reborn has always made characters, their personalities, their emotions at the center of the story. These characters are themselves at the center of events that may lead to the destruction of Reborn (if Meteors win) or to its reborn (Meteors lose, no more pulse Muk to destroy the lake, to more corruption destroying Yureyu and the power plant, maybe no more earthquakes such as the one which has destroyed Reborn years ago). And according to the philosophy of the game, what is more likely to be able to unleash the power of God Arceus ? A few jewels everybody can get, or people who are the incarnation of the seals, who lived them and are the most able to see if Reborn deserve destruction or purification. Heather who lived in pain due to a hopeless father and the desire of power of Meteors. Amaria who lives for love just to discover that her life and her love was a fake. Luna who witnessed the fanatism of Arceus' cultist and who prefered a fantasy world to the reality of Reborn. And Anna, who can see the true nature of Reborn's inhabitants through their aura.

The true keys are Heather, Anna, Amaria and Luna, not pieces jewelry.

And about Radomus, there's a grave near Corey's gym with "Zina Vanhanen" written on it. Who is it ? His wife ? His daughter ? I don't know, but I agree with people thinking he used to be with Meteors. I think he was just like Simon or Eclipse. He heard Meteors saying they could revive "Zina", whoever it is, an he wanted to see this possibility. But I don't think he really followed them. He's not the desperate guy ready to do everything due to sorrow. Just look at his reaction when Gossip Gardevoir was kidnapped by Elias. Even with knowing GG could easily teleport, he could have been worried a little. But no. So I think he joined them to study them more like a spy, which may be the reason of this hate between him and El.

And last thing : the baby Arceus. WTF ?! It's obvious this baby is real. He made Terra's glitch world real (she clearly says this) and maybe gave her the power to mess up with physics (remember Hardy and Aya's flight ? They didn't even died !). Maybe he also gave his view back to El. I don't think a simple prayer could become real in a ruined region like Reborn, or why other prayers aren't fulfilled ? So the baby gave his view back to El. But in that case, why Meteors still bother to get the seals and to open the sanctuary. Why don't they just create this new world with the baby ? For this I have no idea, but I think it's really really important in the story.

[Ice Cream Sand Witch]

When/where was it said Terra was shy before joining the circus? Eye don't remember that.

[Lamona]

When/where was it said Terra was shy before joining the circus? Eye don't remember that.

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