Yazmat Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The earliest I know of is Shade with his Chandelure and another one. Atleast it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalKing1417 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 In My opinion Noel losing some of his difficulty FROM A STORY perspective makes a ton of sense. The kid had no opportunities to train in the Orphanage, had a sign saying KIDNAP ME for a good deal of the orphan arc, and is using someone else's house as a makeshift gym. Why should he be so difficult compared to other leaders when they are in their ideal locations? Heck if he's so difficult, he should be the one doing the heavy lifting, not us and our pokes. Save the difficulty for the other leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etesian Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 In My opinion Noel losing some of his difficulty FROM A STORY perspective makes a ton of sense. The kid had no opportunities to train in the Orphanage, had a sign saying KIDNAP ME for a good deal of the orphan arc, and is using someone else's house as a makeshift gym. Why should he be so difficult compared to other leaders when they are in their ideal locations? Heck if he's so difficult, he should be the one doing the heavy lifting, not us and our pokes. Save the difficulty for the other leaders. Well, he wasn't born and raised in the Orphanage, and they kept his Pokemon, they didn't get rid of them, so him having a good team is fine, especially since he (somehow) became a leader even before he was sent to the orphanage (since Dr. Connal doesn't let them outside) and any training he'd have to do would just be putting his team together, so I see no problem in him being strong form a story perspective. He's also not constantly doing gym battles where we fought him, the place just had to make-do, though the place doesn't even matter (remember double-battle Serra? no field effects there). And in E13, we heard on the news that other leaders will be doing "the heavy lifting" too, since they plan on doing something now that the Barrier-PULSE was set up. And if you're saying the gym leaders should handle everything, that wouldn't make for much of a game if WE never did anything, would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted December 30, 2014 Veterans Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well, he wasn't born and raised in the Orphanage, and they kept his Pokemon, they didn't get rid of them, so him having a good team is fine, especially since he (somehow) became a leader even before he was sent to the orphanage (since Dr. Connal doesn't let them outside) and any training he'd have to do would just be putting his team together, so I see no problem in him being strong form a story perspective. He's also not constantly doing gym battles where we fought him, the place just had to make-do, though the place doesn't even matter (remember double-battle Serra? no field effects there). And in E13, we heard on the news that other leaders will be doing "the heavy lifting" too, since they plan on doing something now that the Barrier-PULSE was set up. And if you're saying the gym leaders should handle everything, that wouldn't make for much of a game if WE never did anything, would it? RIP Noel's Staraptor.That thing was a fucking threat and i loved every second of it .May that Glorious bird rest in peace(till we get to Ciel).Though Radomus doing "Heavy lifting" will always remain close to my heart if i see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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