Chilibunny Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Is it something required for the 'true ending' one day? Like finding the police officers before battling Taka & ZEL, beating Garchomp at Pyrous etc. Please tell me it isn't. I've already cursed at myself for finding the last officer after the battle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekwst3 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Everyone who knows wont say, everyone else can just speculate. there are a few options scenes, the one I do but others don't is the scene where you are trapped in the cage and if you don't beg and wait a while (a little to long) a pokemon will come by and rescue you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerman Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Although I have no say in this, I don't take it will matter in the end only for a little while like whom you have to battle or not and dialogue changes Edit: What Jman390 below said, It is just for your own regards,well being, and more in depth story Edited December 28, 2014 by Cornerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzam Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Well...um...We can't go into Eclipse room yet, so there is definitely something back there...Do I think it is required for the story? No. Then again, neither is saving all the police officers. In the end they are all just sidequests. However, I feel like sidequests make a game for in depth and make the ending that much better. Knowing you've done everything and helped everyone. So is it required for story? Most likely no. Should you still do it to make the story better for yourself? Hell yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilibunny Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yeah well the Aster battle isn't exactly a sidequest but a story split, and I'm a little sad if giving the ring to Blake to pretty much save a life (Heather) will result in a "bad" or "not true" ending. Of course, your actions shape your path but stillllllllll. How does refusing to give the ring to Blake correlate with meeting Aster at the waterfall? Is it explained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted December 29, 2014 Veterans Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be that way.Whatever in there's a pretty rare item if ame's willing to tease us like this...wait that's ame everyday .it's probably just a plot device to get you waterfall iirc. Edited December 29, 2014 by Can't Type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilibunny Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) So does Aster give you Waterfall if Blake doesn't? I liked Aster and Eclipse and it seems like my choices will ultimately lead to Asters doom. Edited December 29, 2014 by Chilibunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted December 29, 2014 Veterans Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yep,he does.I haven't unlocked that ending tho :I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawr-Ma-Ama Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yeah well the Aster battle isn't exactly a sidequest but a story split, and I'm a little sad if giving the ring to Blake to pretty much save a life (Heather) will result in a "bad" or "not true" ending. Of course, your actions shape your path but stillllllllll. Well, if Meteor wins, there are probably more people going to die or at least something bad is going to happen. They´re planning to get rid of Reborn City and re-shape the entire region by getting whatever is below the city and closed off by that big door. And if you give Blake - someone who is with the meteors - the ring, they´re a step closer to achieving that goal. Can´t risk that. On the other hand, the player would be risking the life of an innocent child. I think there is no real right or wrong in this decision and I hope it won´t have an effect on the ending. It´s just a moral decision, having you, the player, decide what would be the right or wrong thing in this situation. So does Aster give you Waterfall if Blake doesn't? I liked Aster and Eclipse and it seems like my choices will ultimately lead to Asters doom. I hope not. Though I think he´s probably going to leave the meteors sooner or later, or choose a side if there´s going to be some sort of fighting between the meteors (I believe there will be some sort of uprising against Lin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laggless01 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) About Blake and the ring: If you give him the ring, you get Waterfall from him, and the ring eventually ends up in Heather's hands. So Meteor still ends up with empty hands. You don't get to see Aster, though. Edited December 29, 2014 by laggless01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawr-Ma-Ama Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 About Blake and the ring: If you give him the ring, you get Waterfall from him, and the ring eventually ends up in Heather's hands. So Meteor still ends up with empty hands. You don't get to see Aster, though. Which made me happy in my first playthrough, because that´s what I picked ^-^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I feel as if I never got Waterfall until the actual ending of the Episode, as I didn't give the ring to Blake but didn't even see Aster throughout the whole episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I just can't belief Blake is so cold hearted(no pun intended) to try and kill his own brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Chespin Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I just can't belief Blake is so cold hearted(no pun intended) to try and kill his own brother. I couldn't agree more. Up until this episode, I thought Fern was the biggest hate sink in the game, being a massive, egotistical jerk who never gets his comeuppance. Then I met Blake. Blake is all the things that make Fern a horrible, horrible person, except he's actually done things just as horrible as he is. He joined an organization dedicated to destroying an entire region. He left an entire town to starve. He lied to a little girl, claiming he would be a loving dad, only to cruelly use her as a tool for his own end. He pushed his own brother off a freaking cliff. And the worst part? Just like Fern, he never gets comeuppance. According to Cal's dialogue atop Pyrous Mountain, Blake was always pampered as a child, and everything he did was praised. As an adult, the entire town he tried to starve still treat him as a celebrity. At the end of Episode 14, he gets away unscathed, still perfectly willing and able to carry out Team Meteor's goals. Blake is one of three characters in Reborn (the others being Fern and Solaris) whom I can find no redeeming values. I want him and the other characters to suffer a major breakdown at the end of the game, or at least get some form of cathartic comeuppance. You don't try to murder your brother and get away with it scott-free. Arceus would not allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJakler Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Whaaaat, I had no idea that you could meet Aster. (I gave the ring to Blake, I didn't want Heather to die... even though she probably wasn't going to anyway ) Hope I get to see him again later though... I wanna help him avenge Eclipse so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted January 3, 2015 Veterans Share Posted January 3, 2015 It's right before you battle blake by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzylard Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I couldn't agree more. Up until this episode, I thought Fern was the biggest hate sink in the game, being a massive, egotistical jerk who never gets his comeuppance. Then I met Blake. Blake is all the things that make Fern a horrible, horrible person, except he's actually done things just as horrible as he is. He joined an organization dedicated to destroying an entire region. He left an entire town to starve. He lied to a little girl, claiming he would be a loving dad, only to cruelly use her as a tool for his own end. He pushed his own brother off a freaking cliff. And the worst part? Just like Fern, he never gets comeuppance. According to Cal's dialogue atop Pyrous Mountain, Blake was always pampered as a child, and everything he did was praised. As an adult, the entire town he tried to starve still treat him as a celebrity. At the end of Episode 14, he gets away unscathed, still perfectly willing and able to carry out Team Meteor's goals. Blake is one of three characters in Reborn (the others being Fern and Solaris) whom I can find no redeeming values. I want him and the other characters to suffer a major breakdown at the end of the game, or at least get some form of cathartic comeuppance. You don't try to murder your brother and get away with it scott-free. Arceus would not allow it. Yeah, I feel like in this game, if you meet a dude and he's straight, there's like a 50% chance he's a bad guy. Whatever, something new aside from all the straight male protagonists is kind of a breather. But damn Ame you don't have to make most of them bad guys anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaaz Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) Blake > Fern Fern is nothing compared to Blake Fern is "wannabe" Blake I really like Blake, Fern looks hollow/empty to me Edited January 3, 2015 by Qaaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laggless01 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Fern looks hollow/empty to me Maybe we should ask Anna to verify that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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