Mega Stone Hunting

[Dragon God Goomy]

Somebody found a Banettite on Ametrine, so maybe there are some other Mega Stones lying around Reborn. I wonder where are the others?

[LittleDevilex]

Also even if we had a mega Glalie, the calculations are wrong because that Dragonite might be up to 5 lvls above the cap, and so 5-10 lvls above our pokemon.

Edited January 10, 2015 by LittleDevilex

[dondon151]

Saphira's dragonite is not invincible. Get over it, kid. Now excuse me.

Return is not available via TM and the point never was that Saphira's Dragonite is invincible.

[NickCrash]

Given the context of this conversation, how in the hell was I supposed to know that you were talking about a Life Orb Protean Greninja attacking a not-fully-invested Multiscale Dragonite?

Second last comment, page 2: disputes gren to ohko d-nite. rebutted in exactly next pos

Glalie can't yet learn Return because I'm pretty sure the TM is unavailable in-game, and the first listed set on Smogon for Dragonite runs neither 252 atk nor 252 spe.

Of course it doesn't. That's the point. I'm showing step by step what M-Glalie needs to OHKO (or have a chance to) Dragonite. What about the following ones?

Also, it's not "Return vs Dragonite" calcs, because right afterwards I calculated about Facade. And the reason I asked you to do the calcs yourself was to avoid comments like this

how many sneaky dishonest damage calculations you can fit into a post.

...numbers don't lie.

This debate has taken a lot of unneeded time and went off topic. I suggest we move on with someting else.

p.s: Yes Qaaz I don't have the mega stone yet, but can't a man dream?

[Qaaz]

No you cant

You don't have acces on Glacietite, neither on Mega Ring/Bracelet/Whatever, you are not playing the classic games that even when you have the items you will have the Return for example.

In the other hand, Ame can do the Dragonite bulky, 5-10 level above cap, give it EV's, give it Field effect, Assault Vest and lot of things that right now is pointless to debate about

Edited January 10, 2015 by Qaaz

[dondon151]

Second last comment, page 2: disputes gren to ohko d-nite. rebutted in exactly next pos

Did you just not read what I said?

The topic of discussion was MGlalie and then you chimed in with some irrelevant statement about Greninja. I assumed that you were trying to make a relevant contribution that took into account the context. There is no indication that you had in mind a specific Greninja against a specific Dragonite. It's important in these discussions to be as clear and unambiguous as possible (in addition to staying on-topic in the first place) to avoid these situations.

...numbers don't lie.

Dishonesty entails showing meaningless damage calculations to divert attention from the important calculations. In your post with the 6 MGlalie vs. Dragonite calcs, 3 were totally irrelevant because they used an unobtainable move (the ones with Return), 1 was irrelevant because it didn't address the topic at hand (the one vs. uninvested Dragonite), and 1 was posted without the necessary caveat that rigging a boosted Facade is pretty difficult in-game given that MGlalie can't hold a Toxic Orb that's not intended to be obtainable in the first place.

Clearly some of the calculations were included for the purpose of winning points instead of shedding light on the subject. That's dishonest.

The focus of the discussion here was, "does Refrigerate make MGlalie super broken?" and not "can MGlalie OHKO a flavor of Dragonite?"

Edited January 10, 2015 by dondon151

[Knight_Teutonic]

I think this Mega Glalie discussion has already ran its course and now it can easily create a flamewar on the subject. We all better stop bitching about this Glalie X Dragonite thing before ame changes her mind about allowing us to get some of the mega stones, because if she does, we won't get the key stone until E19

Edited January 11, 2015 by Knight_Teutonic

[Frostilicious]

I don't care if we get mega evolutions or not, to be honest, but if/when we do, it'd better be a Gardevoirite Z.z!

[Dragon God Goomy]

Please, no irrelevant stuff on this topic. This is solely for Mega Stone hunting in Reborn.