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Gym Leader Roster Changes (done for fun)


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Okay so I got bored... so I decided to make an 'updated' team roster for the first three Gym Leaders - bearing in mind to keep them 'challenging' but not 'impossible' (might do the rest later...)

These are just purely my opinion, and was done out of boredom - so no harsh criticism please... :( (But your opinion is welcome!)

(Changes made in bold)

1. Julia

Helioptile, Magnemite, Voltorb, Emolga, Luxio, Electrode

Having 2 Voltorbs seemed slightly redundant (although I think this was done on purpose to ensure Julia makes use of the synergy caused by Explosion/Selfdestruct and her field effect) - so why not have a Magnemite? (It can also explode right?)

Blitzle never really caused much problems for me - so I replaced it with Luxio (although Flaaffy might have been suitable too)

2. Florinia

Maractus, Cacnea, Ferroseed, Grotle, Breloom, Cradily

I think her team is fine as it is - since its supposed to be a Grass-Sandstorm Team (too bad her starting Pokemon doesn't start a Sandstorm). I suppose Grotle could be replaced with Swadloon/Leavanny with Overcoat, but that seemed slightly harsh.

3. Corey

Arbok, Koffing, Croagunk, Trubbish/Garbodor, Skuntank, Crobat

...I might have gone slightly overboard with this one.

With 3 Poison-type experts in the game, it felt extremely redundant that all three trainers carried a Grimer (pre-E14) - and none of them had a Koffing or an Ekans.

I know Corey had a Trubbish in the past, but again - Cain and Aya doesn't have a Garbodor so why not?

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Nice. I decided to make a roster for julia too, just for fun. It contains moves that pokemon could either learn later, or by breeding with a ditto (a low level voltorb with explosion, for instance). I might add other rosters as well later.

Gym Leader Julia

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Voltorb (physical attacker)
Level 11

Ability: Aftermath

-Screech
-Spark
-Rollout
-Explosion

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Voltorb (special attacker)
Level12

Ability: Aftermath

-Thunder wave
-Electro ball
-Charge beam
-Explosion

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Blitzle
Level 12

Ability: Sap sipper

-Spark
-Flame charge
-Quick attack
-Thunder wave

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Emolga
Level 12

Ability: Motor drive

-Nuzzle
-Double team
-Spark
-Quick attack

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Helioptile
Level 13

Ability: Solar power

-Charge
-Parabolic charge
-Thunder wave
-Mud slap

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Electrode (ace pokémon)
Level 15

Ability: Static

-Sonicboom
-Rollout
-Explosion
-Spark

Gym leader florinia (leveled down her pokemon a bit, but gave them held items to help with the sandstorm climate)

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Cacnea
Level 20
Ability: Sand veil
Held item: smooth rock

-Sandstorm
-Spikes
-Nature power
-Needle arm

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Maractus
Level 21
Ability: Storm drain
Deld item: Safety goggles

-Pin missile
-Nature power
-Cotton guard
-Giga drain

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Ferroseed
Level 21
Ability: Iron barbs

-Gyro ball
-Seed bomb
-Stealth rock
-Curse

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Grotle
Level 21
Ability: Shell armor
Held item: Safety goggles

-Razor leaf
-Bite
-Curse
-Leech seed

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Breloom
Level 22
Ability: Poison heal
Held item: Safety goggles

-Spore
-Leech seed
-Drain punch
-Seed bomb

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Cradily
Level 23
Ability: Storm drain

-Stockpile
-Mirror coat
-Ancient power
-Giga drain

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I made this team for Julia. It is pretty hard to beat. I had to reset for good IV's/natures to be able to defeat her. And speed EV train my team.

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Heliolisk (Leftovers), lvl18, Modest
Charge Beam
Mud Slap
Charge
Quick Attack
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Chinchou (Leftovers), lvl19, Timid
Bubblebeam
Shock Wave
HP Fire
Thunder Wave
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Joltik (Leftovers), lvl19, Timid
Struggle Bug
Electroweb
HP Water
Toxic
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Magnemite (Leftovers), lvl20, Modest
Gyro Ball
Shock Wave
Sonic Boom
Flash
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Emolga (Leftovers), lvl23, Adamant
Acrobatics
Spark
Astonish
Quick Attack
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Electrode (Leftovers), lvl25, Adamant
Spark
Volt Switch
Rollout
Explosion
I also gave her 2 more potions...regret that now.

For my challenge replay I remade the other gym leaders to be harder, some of them got mega evolutions, and also Fern, Victoria, Pulse pokemon, meteors...

Edited by LittleDevilex
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I made this team for Julia. It is pretty hard to beat. I had to reset for good IV's/natures to be able to defeat her. And speed EV train my team.

heliolisk.gif

Heliolisk (Leftovers), lvl18, Modest
Charge Beam
Mud Slap
Charge
Quick Attack
170.gif
Chinchou (Leftovers), lvl19, Timid
Bubblebeam
Shock Wave
HP Fire
Thunder Wave
595.gif
Joltik (Leftovers), lvl19, Timid
Struggle Bug
Electroweb
HP Water
Toxic
081.gif
Magnemite (Leftovers), lvl20, Modest
Gyro Ball
Shock Wave
Sonic Boom
Flash
587.gif
Emolga (Leftovers), lvl23, Adamant
Acrobatics
Spark
Astonish
Quick Attack
101.gif
Electrode (Leftovers), lvl25, Adamant
Spark
Volt Switch
Rollout
Explosion
I also gave her 2 more potions...regret that now.

For my challenge replay I remade the other gym leaders to be harder, some of them got mega evolutions, and also Fern, Victoria, Pulse pokemon, meteors...

This team seems to have some problems against Marshtomp (unless Electrode explodes in his face), but if you don't use it, it could be "too" hard to defeat (so it would encourage people to choose Mudkip). Also, is the level cap changed? If it isn't, you can have a big level gap between your Pokémon and Julia's.

It may be interesting to know how you've beaten her with this team.

In the end, this could become the Reborn Challenge Mode (like in Black2/White2)!

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This team seems to have some problems against Marshtomp (unless Electrode explodes in his face), but if you don't use it, it could be "too" hard to defeat (so it would encourage people to choose Mudkip). Also, is the level cap changed? If it isn't, you can have a big level gap between your Pokémon and Julia's.

It may be interesting to know how you've beaten her with this team.

In the end, this could become the Reborn Challenge Mode (like in Black2/White2)!

Yep Marshtomp counters it hard. Only Electrode and Emolga are above the lvl cap. I used the same pokemon/strategy like I would normaly. 2xTrubish for Toxic Spikes/sludge, Kricketune, Marshtomp, Goldeen, Espurr, Litleo...all were lvl 19/20. I managed to beat her with Monferno too.

How exactly does one make new teams for Gym Leaders?

By making new teams for them

That is all you need to know.

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Let's add a Rotom-Mow! (JK)

You tested the team in Reborn, right? So you have RPG Maker yourself!

No, I did not use any special program/tool to change or play the game, I don't even have the one you mentioned. I tested it normally during my challenge replay. Also I would rather not speak about how to do it since Ame said if people knew how to do this they would probably change it to be more easy rather then making it harder.

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Ok then!

if people knew how to do this they would probably change it to be more easy rather then making it harder.

That would ruin what Pokémon Reborn is doing; making you use at its fullest all the Pokémon available (and liking them after using them) and providing a great challenge :)

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regarding julia and magnemite, she originally had one but I removed it because it basically made choosing fire type starters a necessity for anyone who didn't hate themselves.

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Welp, let me give my Kaizo mode Julia roster. Keep in mind for my Kaizo you can only get Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charmander as your starter and have limited options. I made a post about this in another thread (Which by the way I have been trying to work on Kaizo reborn :P). Anyway, level cap before Julia is now 15. Reason being is so that you can't dragon rage spam. The one Common Candy is no longer accessible either. Anyway, on with the show. Get ready for some real Kaizo shit here.

Joltik (Lead) Level 15 Ability: Compoundeyes Item: Focus Sash. Moves: Sticky Web, Giga Drain, Signal Beam Charge Beam.

Dedenne (The Monster) Level 15 Ability: Cheek Pouch Item: Sitrus Berry Moves: Charge Beam, Rest, Snore, Charm

Stunfisk (Trap House) Level 16 Ability: Static Item: Leftovers Moves: Stealth Rock, Water Pulse, Mud Shot, Charge Beam

Magnemite (Heavy Metal) Level 15 Ability: Sturdy Item: Shell Bell Moves: Electro Web, Flash Cannon, Electro Ball, Signal Beam

Emolga (Higher than a Kite) Level 16 Ability: Static Item: Assault Vest Moves: Nuzzle, Electro Ball, Aerial Ace, Knock Off

Electrode (Al-Qaeda) Level 17 Ability: Statice Item: Life Orb Moves: Electro Ball, Signal Beam, Sucker Punch, Explosion

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Welp, let me give my Kaizo mode Julia roster. Keep in mind for my Kaizo you can only get Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charmander as your starter and have limited options. I made a post about this in another thread (Which by the way I have been trying to work on Kaizo reborn :P). Anyway, level cap before Julia is now 15. Reason being is so that you can't dragon rage spam. The one Common Candy is no longer accessible either. Anyway, on with the show. Get ready for some real Kaizo shit here.

Joltik (Lead) Level 15 Ability: Compoundeyes Item: Focus Sash. Moves: Sticky Web, Giga Drain, Signal Beam Charge Beam.

Dedenne (The Monster) Level 15 Ability: Cheek Pouch Item: Sitrus Berry Moves: Charge Beam, Rest, Snore, Charm

Stunfisk (Trap House) Level 16 Ability: Static Item: Leftovers Moves: Stealth Rock, Water Pulse, Mud Shot, Charge Beam

Magnemite (Heavy Metal) Level 15 Ability: Sturdy Item: Shell Bell Moves: Electro Web, Flash Cannon, Electro Ball, Signal Beam

Emolga (Higher than a Kite) Level 16 Ability: Static Item: Assault Vest Moves: Nuzzle, Electro Ball, Aerial Ace, Knock Off

Electrode (Al-Qaeda) Level 17 Ability: Statice Item: Life Orb Moves: Electro Ball, Signal Beam, Sucker Punch, Explosion

I mean, you don't get Dragon Rage on Gyarados until level 23, + you can't get it this early anymore, or are you talking about Charmander's line?

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Welp, let me give my Kaizo mode Julia roster. Keep in mind for my Kaizo you can only get Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charmander as your starter and have limited options. I made a post about this in another thread (Which by the way I have been trying to work on Kaizo reborn :P). Anyway, level cap before Julia is now 15. Reason being is so that you can't dragon rage spam. The one Common Candy is no longer accessible either. Anyway, on with the show. Get ready for some real Kaizo shit here.

Joltik (Lead) Level 15 Ability: Compoundeyes Item: Focus Sash. Moves: Sticky Web, Giga Drain, Signal Beam Charge Beam.

Dedenne (The Monster) Level 15 Ability: Cheek Pouch Item: Sitrus Berry Moves: Charge Beam, Rest, Snore, Charm

Stunfisk (Trap House) Level 16 Ability: Static Item: Leftovers Moves: Stealth Rock, Water Pulse, Mud Shot, Charge Beam

Magnemite (Heavy Metal) Level 15 Ability: Sturdy Item: Shell Bell Moves: Electro Web, Flash Cannon, Electro Ball, Signal Beam

Emolga (Higher than a Kite) Level 16 Ability: Static Item: Assault Vest Moves: Nuzzle, Electro Ball, Aerial Ace, Knock Off

Electrode (Al-Qaeda) Level 17 Ability: Statice Item: Life Orb Moves: Electro Ball, Signal Beam, Sucker Punch, Explosion

You realize this is not possible to beat? You gave them 80 power moves on lvl 15 -.-

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With that 1 common candy people could at least have a second evolution. Such sets only discourage Squirtle.

Also, what's the point of half the pokemon having Signal beam? It's not like it's super effective against the anything (bar psychic type you'll have to pay for)

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