JapaneseWallpaper Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Hello Everyone. I have recently started Year 11 at my school, and have chosen to do a subject called "International Politics". My teacher is very knowledgeable on the subject as he has taught it for 20+ years. But i think it would be better to have an insight into another countries political system through the eyes of someone from that country! PLEASE NOTE: This is not like the "political soapbox", as that is everyone's general thoughts, this is more what everyone's countries political system is like, as it'll help me understand it more. Thanks for reading, and Writing if you do infact, respond. EDIT: please keep all discussions sane, so no outlandishly rude statements when someone rebuts your opinion Edited January 31, 2015 by JapaneseWallpaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 well the US is basically shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG478 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 ^ This guy knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 well the US is basically shit 10/10 can't say it any better. It claims to be a Democratic Republic, but it feels like a Socialist nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapaneseWallpaper Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 well the US is basically shit Would you care to elaborate, if i may ask Would you say some of the ma in issues concerning America is not the acts of terrorism from Other lands, but Local terrorism from the unregulated Gun Laws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG478 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Everyone having to be racist over Self defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapaneseWallpaper Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Everyone having to be racist over Self defense I see Is that in the cases of Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 May I remind everyone here to keep this civil and not about political ideals but rather the political system and HOW it works, for whichever nation's structure is being discussed. I don't want to give out warning's in this thread, but this isn't starting out well. -Jericho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG478 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Eh I will go ahead and sign off on this topic (Due to me not watching any form of news or knowing how our politics work) I will also say sorry if I was offensive in any way. Have a great day/night/whatever time it is Also Gl with your subject JapaneseWallpaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) -Become member of a pseudo-massonic group. -Use the connections you made there to become a succesful businessman. -Buy a local television channel, and improve it to broadcast nation-wise. -Buy two more nation-wise television channels: since there's a law against it, corrupt the current prime minister into removing that law. -When that prime minister is arrested for corruption, corrupt the judge to make it out of it clean, then become the prime minister yourself. -When justice eventually catches up to you, use your television channels to discredit the judges and create a movement that supports you no matter what. -Solidify your position by promising to start a more lenient policy in regards to punishing those who don't pay taxes, winning the votes of people who dislike paying taxes (who are the majority in Italy) -Exploit the above to win four straight elections. -Make friends with infamous dictators. -Get yourself a lot of hoes to celebrate. -??? -Profit! A brief yet accurate history of Berlusconi, and thus of 20 years of italian political system. The most atrocious part? I am 24, meaning that this ridiculously corrupted system is all I have known in my entire life. Fun, ain't it? (The even more atrocious part is that foreign people probably won't even understand what I am talking about untill they get to the hoes part... Because yes, italian political positical system is mostly known worldwide for Berlusconi's hoes, which in itself is rather depressing for an italian...) Edited January 31, 2015 by Tomas Elliot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapaneseWallpaper Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 -Become member of a pseudo-massonic group. -Use the connections you made there to become a succesful businessman. -Buy a local television channel, and improve it to broadcast nation-wise. -Buy two more nation-wise television channels: since there's a law against it, corrupt the current prime minister into removing that law. -When that prime minister is arrested for corruption, corrupt the judge to make it out of it clean, then become the prime minister yourself. -When justice eventually catches up to you, use your television channels to discredit the judges and create a movement that supports you no matter what. -Solidify your position by promising to start a more lenient policy in regards to punishing those who don't pay taxes, winning the votes of people who dislike paying taxes (who are the majority in Italy) -Exploit the above to win four straight elections. -Make friends with infamous dictators. -Get yourself a lot of hoes to celebrate. -??? -Profit! A brief yet accurate history of Berlusconi, and thus of 20 years of italian political system. The most atrocious part? I am 24, meaning that this ridiculously corrupted system is all I have known in my entire life. Fun, ain't it? Wow, that is very awful, in Australia the worst thing that happened to us in the last 20 years was the Carbon Tax (because taxing the mining companies for their excessive production of carbon is wrong) Eh I will go ahead and sign off on this topic (Due to me not watching any form of news or knowing how our politics work) I will also say sorry if I was offensive in any way. Have a great day/night/whatever time it is Also Gl with your subject JapaneseWallpaper It is alright and thanks for your short, input. I'm aiming to do well in this subject, but thanks for saying it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 America has 3 main branches of power that are supposed to keep each other in check. -The guys that create/alter laws- legislative. (congress) -The guys that interpret laws, make sure laws are in keeping with the constitution, and determine if laws have been broken- Judicial (Supreme Court and lower level courts) -The guys that implement and enforce laws/policies, makes decisions for the country- executive. (President) ---- -President checks congress by the ability to block (veto) changes they try to make, and has influence on judicial by being able to appoint Supreme Court Judges. -Congress can overturn President's veto with a (super?)majority vote and are the ones who have to approve the person the President tries to appoint to the supreme court, or else he has to keep picking new ones until he picks one enough of them like. -Judicial Branch is the one that says whether a law (legislative) or action (executive) is in keeping with the constitution, and thus is able to overturn them. --- That's the real basic framework of it, but each section breaks down further into lower levels of authority. The other really key thing you would need to know about is the Constitution. It is the document that defines and sets up the three branches as the bodies of power. It defines their powers, responsibilities, and limitations. In doing so, it also establishes the rights of individuals and states. The Constitution has had changes over the years, known as Amendments. The first 10 collectively are known as the Bill of Rights, as they were introduced together to more clearly define the rights of citizens and states. There are a total of 27 amendments, some being more memorable than others. Such as #13, specifically abolishing slavery. Or #18, which abolished alcoholic drinks... until it was taken back by #21. I'm glad I bought this little booklet that contains the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. Every phrase and every sentence was excruciatingly crafted. --- Let me know if there's something you want to know more about. Like perhaps the party system. It irks me how quick and easy it is for someone to say their system is shit or corrupt without saying much else to support it. The first impression that I get from it is that they are repeating what someone else has said without having actually looked at things critically on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 -Congress can overturn President's veto with a (super?)majority vote and are the ones who have to approve the person the President tries to appoint to the supreme court, or else he has to keep picking new ones until he picks one enough of them like. if my memory of my civics class from freshman year serves anything im 99% sure it's like a 2/3rds vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 if my memory of my civics class from freshman year serves anything im 99% sure it's like a 3/4th vote Erm, to be precise, it's more so a 2/3rd's majority of both the house and the senate to override a veto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 that's pretty much what I seem to remember. Simple majority vote to pass most things, super majority to overturn a veto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Erm, to be precise, it's more so a 2/3rd's majority of both the house and the senate to override a veto i changed it immediately after i posted it,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus the Priestess Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 How to be a good government, Philippines edition 1. Be a famous actor/actress, preferably a wealthy one. Alternatively, have a stash of treasures from way back in the Spanish Colonial era. 2. The people hate the current heads? Now's your chance to rub in the salt, win the hearts of the masses, and be a hero opposing said administration! 3. Win the elections and be recognized for what a superstar you truly are. 4. ??? 5. Profit (PROTIP: Steal from the people, but suck up to them and pull off a Pontius Pilate (i.e. wash your hands (figuratively and/or literally) and declare you've done nothing wrong) when they begin to complain.) 6. Pass on the administration to an ally or, preferably, a family relative like your son/daughter. 7. ??? 8. Profit 9. Rinse, and repeat until you have achieved a Political Dynasty and the people are blind and all opposition rendered powerless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapaneseWallpaper Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) America has 3 main branches of power that are supposed to keep each other in check. -The guys that create/alter laws- legislative. (congress) -The guys that interpret laws, make sure laws are in keeping with the constitution, and determine if laws have been broken- Judicial (Supreme Court and lower level courts) -The guys that implement and enforce laws/policies, makes decisions for the country- executive. (President) ---- -President checks congress by the ability to block (veto) changes they try to make, and has influence on judicial by being able to appoint Supreme Court Judges. -Congress can overturn President's veto with a (super?)majority vote and are the ones who have to approve the person the President tries to appoint to the supreme court, or else he has to keep picking new ones until he picks one enough of them like. -Judicial Branch is the one that says whether a law (legislative) or action (executive) is in keeping with the constitution, and thus is able to overturn them. --- That's the real basic framework of it, but each section breaks down further into lower levels of authority. The other really key thing you would need to know about is the Constitution. It is the document that defines and sets up the three branches as the bodies of power. It defines their powers, responsibilities, and limitations. In doing so, it also establishes the rights of individuals and states. The Constitution has had changes over the years, known as Amendments. The first 10 collectively are known as the Bill of Rights, as they were introduced together to more clearly define the rights of citizens and states. There are a total of 27 amendments, some being more memorable than others. Such as #13, specifically abolishing slavery. Or #18, which abolished alcoholic drinks... until it was taken back by #21. I'm glad I bought this little booklet that contains the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. Every phrase and every sentence was excruciatingly crafted. --- Let me know if there's something you want to know more about. Like perhaps the party system. It irks me how quick and easy it is for someone to say their system is shit or corrupt without saying much else to support it. The first impression that I get from it is that they are repeating what someone else has said without having actually looked at things critically on their own. I see, that makes a lot of sense. In Australia, we have basically the upper house and lower house. The upper house is where the more important decisions happen and lower is just dicking around. Is it stereotypical for people to be extremely patriotic about the Constitution? If my memory serves, Obama tried to change the 2nd amendment(?) as the cases of school shootings have increased a large amount. But people were against him doing that, wouldn't the regulation of sidearms, automatic weapons and shotguns be beneficial for the country? EDIT: Also, if it not a burden for you, would you be able to explain the senete system of America How to be a good government, Philippines edition 1. Be a famous actor/actress, preferably a wealthy one. Alternatively, have a stash of treasures from way back in the Spanish Colonial era. 2. The people hate the current heads? Now's your chance to rub in the salt, win the hearts of the masses, and be a hero opposing said administration! 3. Win the elections and be recognized for what a superstar you truly are. 4. ??? 5. Profit (PROTIP: Steal from the people, but suck up to them and pull off a Pontius Pilate (i.e. wash your hands (figuratively and/or literally) and declare you've done nothing wrong) when they begin to complain.) 6. Pass on the administration to an ally or, preferably, a family relative like your son/daughter. 7. ??? 8. Profit 9. Rinse, and repeat until you have achieved a Political Dynasty and the people are blind and all opposition rendered powerless. Wow, that seems very similar to what happens in Italy, but less covert corruption, a question for you personally, were you affected by many of the hurricanes/Typhoons that has been plaguing the Philippines in recent years? Edited January 31, 2015 by JapaneseWallpaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 states with the harshest gun control laws have the highest rates of gun crime, just saiyan I recommend looking at more than just gun control issues as they are relatively minor compared to other things the country faces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 People were claiming putting restrictions on certain types of guns was against the 2nd amendment. Which is basically right to bear arms, so that people could fight back if the government was corrupt and needed to be changed. Obama's plan to limit assault weapons. You know, guns that weren't made for hunting but for killing larger quantities of people in combat/conflict, would make it harder for shooters to go on a spree. You'd have to reload more often if you have smaller capacity magazines. And some people aren't allowed to own/posses guns as it is. Like the mentally unstable, or people convicted on domestic violence charges (this is a huge one for army guys, because they can't have a gun, even in a combat zone if convicted, so they get booted out). He was also trying to beef up background checks and stuff that people have to go through and pass before they can buy a gun. Makes it tougher and take longer for people to own a gun. And I'll write more later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypa Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Wow, that is very awful, in Australia the worst thing that happened to us in the last 20 years was the Carbon Tax (because taxing the mining companies for their excessive production of carbon is wrong They are only taxing the excessive production of carbon because there is a 2020 carbon emissions goal set by the UN which countries must comply to the taxing of it reduces the likelihood of them producing the excess carbon therefore reducing it. I wouldn't by any means call it a bad thing its just a way to reduce carbon emissions and not get their asses handed to them by the UN. In any case the reduction of greenhouse gasses and its effect is a long term benefit for our descendants, making it better (at least not worse) for the future is the main goal for any political party or group Edited January 31, 2015 by Hypa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Finnish Government pros: + free healthcare and free education (I wouldn't be so highly educated if Finland didn't have free education), this is founded directly from taxation + the government will take care of you if you're poor and unemployed and government can help you get a job, taxes again ( KELA and TE-keskus ) (+ I'll add something else if I remember something also this wikipedia article explains everything about politics of Finland. Fun fact ! We almost had the world's first openly gay president but people voted for Sauli Niinistö (the current president of Finland) instead of Pekka Haavisto... but I think the world and especially Finland isn't ready yet for openly gay president though... and soon there's going to be the parliamentary elections... and I really hope the next parliament will do something to that current trans law.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I'm very curious as to what the typical tax rates are in Finland to fund all of that. I would like to see free higher education implemented in the US at least for 4 year bachelors degrees, but I'd like to know more before I dive straight into campaigning for it. It likely won't happen here any time soon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I'm very curious as to what the typical tax rates are in Finland to fund all of that. I would like to see free higher education implemented in the US at least for 4 year bachelors degrees, but I'd like to know more before I dive straight into campaigning for it. It likely won't happen here any time soon though. Well here's a wikipedia article explaining the taxation system we use here in Finland... I'm not so good explaining these things in English (and not even in Finnish to be honest)... but now the economy of Finland suffers from economic depression and that's not a good thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Canada: democracy which means everybody who is 18 and older can vote to decide what's better is country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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