My Reborn Team: Power!

[Captain]

I'm posting this because I want to showcase my Reborn team. Feel free to comment, rate and make suggestions all you want. Though I must say, I'm rather picky with the Pokemon I choose to use. The Pokemon I have listed below are some of my favorites. That's why I use them.

Nature: Adamant

Ability: Truant

Item: Silk Scarf

- Yawn

- Strength

- Play Rough

- Night Slash

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Sheer Force

Item: Charcoal

- Headbutt

- Fire Punch

- Flare Blitz

- Super Power

Ev's 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Defeatist

Item: No item

- Crunch

- U-turn

- Rock Slide

- Acrobatics

Ev's 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Moxie

Item: No Item

- Crunch

- Ice Fang

- Aqua Tail

- Dragon Dance

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Moxie

Item: Black Belt

- Crunch

- Headbutt

- Dragon Dance

- High Jump Kick

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Hustle

Item: Silver Powder

- Crunch

- Bug Bite

- X-Scissor

- Iron Head

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Pokemon Reborn is the first Pokemon game I have played that I've even considered have other Pokemon in rotation. Possible Rotation Pokemon:

Nature: Modest

Ability: Chlorophyll

Item: Miracle Seed

- Leech Seed

- Petal Dance

- Double Edge

- Sleep Powder

Ev's: 0/0/0/252/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

At the moment, Venusaur's moveset is quite poor IMO. I'm thinking about catching the Vulpix and breeding a Drought Vulpix to go along with this Venusaur. I'll swap Petal Dance for Solar Beam when that happens, of course.

I also have a Froakie, Meditite and an Eevee that I have yet to train. Froakie, at this point in the game (my next gym battle will be Luna) is quite lackluster IMO. Once I get into the later stages of the game where I can teach Froakie a more diverse special attacking moveset that can take advantage of it's fantastic ability, I'll probably go back and forth between it and Gyarados. The Eevee was bred for the sole purpose of becoming a bulky (252HP / 252Sp.Def) Umbreon for some fun. My plan was to use a very troll moveset against the Arceus for some laughs. I was burned out on breeding and Ev training and I just decided to proceed without Umbreon. As for the Arceus, Scrafty took care of it with ease.

Meditite is a Jolly 252Atk/252Spd Poke that was bred to be a physical attacking Medicham with a very diverse moveset while holding the life orb. The idea of this Medicham still sounds fun to me so I will more than likely finish its Ev training. As for now, I've come to really like Scrafty.

[Pixl]

All that physical attack ._.

[Lostelle]

Hm, yeah. That's a LOT of physical attacking mons. Maybe get 2 more special attackers? That way, it's 3 & 3.

[Captain]

Honestly, I don't see any physically defensive Pokemon walling my team. It is PVE afterall. That's not to say that I'm not open to using a special attacker. I am. The challenge with finding a special attacker is finding one I enjoy using. I've thought about Galvantula, but I already have a bug type. I've thought about Kingdra, but I already have a water type. Actually, if I count Froakie, I have two water types. I do have Venusaur I can use at any time. Originally, after seeing first hand just how powerful Roserade is (Thanks, Fern.) I caught a Budew and had planned on breeding it. That was until I found out that Budew evolved via friendship. I don't like friendship evolutions.

[AuthorReborn]

I definitely would vouch for Rosarade. Yeah, it's a bit of a pain to evolve and I don't enjoy friendship evos at all, but you can breed Sludge Bomb onto it, it learns Giga Drain via Levelup, and with Hidden Power availible, you can cover its weakness to various types quite easily with the amazing ability Technician (requires a Budew with Leaf Guard or Ability Capsule). The last move slot can be used for a variety of purposes. This thing has an excellent in-game variety of levelup moves whereas other mons are forced to rely on the usage of TMs. For the final slot you can have Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Aromatherpy, as well as another decent variety from breeding in the form of Extrasensory and Sleep Powder. It's up to you which of these moves you use, but all of them allow you to have a powerful special attacker that punishes most foes that your physical attackers can't handle.

[Simon]

You'll only get Budew as an egg if the Female Roselia/Roserade is holding a Rose Incense. Otherwise, you'll get Roselia which can be evolved to Roserade with a Shiny Stone. But if you do that, you'll lose out on Extrasensory, which is a good addition.

Anyways, everyone else stated my thoughts on the team but I'll add a bit of other stuff.

For Slaking, since it is in the Field Egg Group, you can try to use a Smeargle Breeding technique (check Etesian's Breeding Guide / Recommendable Sets) to get TM Moves on it such as Return, Earthquake, Giga Impact, etc.

Etesian put moves that you could breed for Darmanitan, Archeops, Durant, and Scrafty in the link above.

Gyarados is pretty much alright, try replacing Aqua Tail for Waterfall whenever you get and you can try to run Bounce as an option if you feel Ice Fang isn't working out.

I'm trying to get this physical moveset for Venusaur at the moment, but I'm missing a mon so I won't say it yet. Anyways, Special Venusaur would just be Giga Drain and Sludge with option of two other moves you want. To get Sludge Bomb onto Venusaur: Grimer>Stunfisk>Wooper>Snubbull>Roselia>Bulbasaur.

Also, be noted with Episodes that Gen VI Breeding Mechanics (any episode after 13) will allow you to be breed Egg Moves from the parents if the baby can learn it, starting from the Mother to the Father.

[Captain]

I definitely would vouch for Rosarade. Yeah, it's a bit of a pain to evolve and I don't enjoy friendship evos at all, but you can breed Sludge Bomb onto it, it learns Giga Drain via Levelup, and with Hidden Power availible, you can cover its weakness to various types quite easily with the amazing ability Technician (requires a Budew with Leaf Guard or Ability Capsule). The last move slot can be used for a variety of purposes. This thing has an excellent in-game variety of levelup moves whereas other mons are forced to rely on the usage of TMs. For the final slot you can have Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Aromatherpy, as well as another decent variety from breeding in the form of Extrasensory and Sleep Powder. It's up to you which of these moves you use, but all of them allow you to have a powerful special attacker that punishes most foes that your physical attackers can't handle.

But physical power conkers all!

Roserade does sound nice. Roserade sounds better than Venusaur. The thing is, If I did breed my Budew I would want Sludge Bomb on it. However, I don't want to go back to episode 12 and breed TMs. I know I can go back and breed some crazy movesets for my Pokemon, but I feel it would make the game too easy. I'm content to wait until better TMs become available.

Honestly, not even Reborn can't handle so much physical power.

I have to say I didn't expect people to talk about previous episodes and TM breeding. I think if I had my current team with competitive movesets the game wouldn't be a challenge anymore. Maybe that's foolish of me. I'm content to wait for the TMs to be released. Hell, if I'm lucky Ame will grace Episode 15 with TM Return. If that's the only TM I got, I'd be happy.

Edited March 10, 2015 by Captain

[LeMasterJP]

How did you learn gyarados crunch? Did it learn it naturally? that would mean the ORAS move changes are implemented

[JapaneseWallpaper]

I'm posting this because I want to showcase my Reborn team. Feel free to comment, rate and make suggestions all you want. Though I must say, I'm rather picky with the Pokemon I choose to use. The Pokemon I have listed below are some of my favorites. That's why I use them.

Nature: Adamant

Ability: Truant

Item: Silk Scarf

- Yawn

- Strength

- Play Rough

- Night Slash

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Sheer Force

Item: Charcoal

- Headbutt

- Fire Punch

- Flare Blitz

- Super Power

Ev's 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Defeatist

Item: No item

- Crunch

- U-turn

- Rock Slide

- Acrobatics

Ev's 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Moxie

Item: No Item

- Crunch

- Ice Fang

- Aqua Tail

- Dragon Dance

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Moxie

Item: Black Belt

- Crunch

- Headbutt

- Dragon Dance

- High Jump Kick

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Nature: Jolly

Ability: Hustle

Item: Silver Powder

- Crunch

- Bug Bite

- X-Scissor

- Iron Head

Ev's: 0/252/0/0/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Pokemon Reborn is the first Pokemon game I have played that I've even considered have other Pokemon in rotation. Possible Rotation Pokemon:

Nature: Modest

Ability: Chlorophyll

Item: Miracle Seed

- Leech Seed

- Petal Dance

- Double Edge

- Sleep Powder

Ev's: 0/0/0/252/0/252

Iv's: 31/31/31/31/31/31

At the moment, Venusaur's moveset is quite poor IMO. I'm thinking about catching the Vulpix and breeding a Drought Vulpix to go along with this Venusaur. I'll swap Petal Dance for Solar Beam when that happens, of course.

I also have a Froakie, Meditite and an Eevee that I have yet to train. Froakie, at this point in the game (my next gym battle will be Luna) is quite lackluster IMO. Once I get into the later stages of the game where I can teach Froakie a more diverse special attacking moveset that can take advantage of it's fantastic ability, I'll probably go back and forth between it and Gyarados. The Eevee was bred for the sole purpose of becoming a bulky (252HP / 252Sp.Def) Umbreon for some fun. My plan was to use a very troll moveset against the Arceus for some laughs. I was burned out on breeding and Ev training and I just decided to proceed without Umbreon. As for the Arceus, Scrafty took care of it with ease.

Meditite is a Jolly 252Atk/252Spd Poke that was bred to be a physical attacking Medicham with a very diverse moveset while holding the life orb. The idea of this Medicham still sounds fun to me so I will more than likely finish its Ev training. As for now, I've come to really like Scrafty.

You'll get walled by anything with a little defense. i recommend Meowstic or Jynx, as they're reasonably fast learn Psychic (and psyshock for meowstic) via level up.

[Captain]

How did you learn gyarados crunch? Did it learn it naturally? that would mean the ORAS move changes are implemented

Gyarados learned Crunch naturally. ORAS moves have been implemented for some time now.

You'll get walled by anything with a little defense. i recommend Meowstic or Jynx, as they're reasonably fast learn Psychic (and psyshock for meowstic) via level up.

If we were talking about competitive battles then I would agree. Because this is PVE, even though it is Reborn, I don't see any Pokemon walling my team. Obviously, individually, they can get walled, but that's why you switch out. I'm about to fight Luna. I look forward to finishing episode 14 with this team.

I had a Meowstic on my team during the early parts of episode 14. It was fun to use. Meowstic, with Prankster, helped me defeat the level 75 Garchomp. But I moved on. I also have an Alakazam in my PC I can breed anytime. If I feel the need to.

[Etesian]

I'm trying to get this physical moveset for Venusaur at the moment, but I'm missing a mon so I won't say it yet.

Aaaaand now I'm curious. PM me nao

But physical power conkers all!

Roserade does sound nice. Roserade sounds better than Venusaur. The thing is, If I did breed my Budew I would want Sludge Bomb on it. However, I don't want to go back to episode 12 and breed TMs. I know I can go back and breed some crazy movesets for my Pokemon, but I feel it would make the game too easy. I'm content to wait until better TMs become available.

Honestly, not even Reborn can't handle so much physical power.

I have to say I didn't expect people to talk about previous episodes and TM breeding. I think if I had my current team with competitive movesets the game wouldn't be a challenge anymore. Maybe that's foolish of me. I'm content to wait for the TMs to be released. Hell, if I'm lucky Ame will grace Episode 15 with TM Return. If that's the only TM I got, I'd be happy.

Heathen! Just kidding, but breeding for some TM moves is something quite a few people do and there's no real way to remove the difficulty from Reborn, is there? You can make things just a bit easier. TMs will also likely be as available as they were so far: very few and far between. The decision to remove TM-breeding also wasn't really made by the people her, it was just to keep thing sup to date with Game Freaks brilliant idea.

Welp, I'll keep that in mind and just recommend both things you can get only now and the time-travel variant.

Before all else, I'll say that agree I with the all-out physical stuff, I ran a few of those throughout Reborn and you're perfectly fine, no real need for special attackers.

Moving onto the team, you....have a Durant. And a Darmanitan. Well, first off, I like you that's really good, but you can do better.

For Slaking, Yawn is really bad. Sleep only lasts 1-3 turns and Truant makes sleep almost pointless. There's Body Slam and it's great para chance from breeding or Crush claw and the defense-drops instead of Strength, Punishment is better than Night Slash due to the huge potential power (check the move out, it's pretty sweet). Or you can run Scope Lens, Slash and Night Slash for the 50% crit chances, but Scope Lens only for NS isn't worth it.

To be honest, it's Curse set is it's best set IMO. Curse, Body Slam, Hammer Arm, Punishment. Slaking has great defenses, it can afford the time to set up just fine.

---To be honestly honest, the pre-E13 Bulk Up set is even better. Bulk Up, Retaliate/Crush Claw/Slash, Shadow Claw/Night Slash, EQ/Brick Break is great.

With both the Bulk Up set and the Curse set, Defense investment is the way to go, since 100 base Speed is decent enough as is, and defense investment will make Curse and Bulk Up all the more worth it.

You can go back to pre-E13 to get Rock Slide/Stone Edge and Dig onto this thing as well as Flame Charge to boost that kinda-sucky Speed stat.

It's Speed is still pretty good though, so the new Endeavor tutor can be useful to you.

Also, ditch Headbutt. Even if it's 4x resisted, with a Charcoal, STAB and Sheer Force, it still has 70 BP, meaning that even worst-case scenario (which is only against Kingdra), Headbutt is equal in power. I also dunno about double Fire STAB, but if it's to avoid the recoil, then that works I guess. Post-E12 doesn't give this thing much else anyways.

Crunch has redundant coverage since Psychic- and Ghost-types have and will be incredibly rare post-Radomus. Instead, having an SE hit against Dragon-types will definitely come in handy later on. U-Turn is also a great move in comp, but it's unneeded in-game. Endeavor is a good move for Archeops since Defeatist doesn't reduce Speed.

Pre-E13 also gets you EQ for perfect coverage.

Oh, and stack up on some Flying Gems, since they don't interfere with Acrobatics no-held-items boost.

Go to Agate later and give this thing it's only possible Flying-type STAB, Bounce, from the tutor instead of Crunch (same coverage argument as above. it also does way more and can para). Also, go Yanma hunting on Azurine Island. Wild ones can carry Wide Lens (with a 20% chance if you lead with something with Compound Eyes, even if that CE-er is fainted), boosting all moves accuracy by 10% (which Bounce really needs). And yeah, give it Waterfall instead of Aqua Tail, the high flinch-chance and the DD boosts really go well together.

I also don't think Speed EVs are necessary whatsoever. DD will make you outspeed everything anyways, some health investment will come in handy much more. With Moxie, you can also maybe switch natures too.

Don't need no Headbutt. Get Ice Punch via Hitmonchan>Buneary>Scra. Same DD and Moxie arguments as above. Nuff said, I guess.

Why not Dig over Bug Bite? You already have X-Scissor, BB does nothing for you.

Alsoooooo, Hone Claws Durant is by far better than the regular variant, believe me. Pre-E13 gets you both HC and Rock Slide.

To be honest, Venusaur is worthless without at least Sludge Bomb from pre-E13.

There definitely won't be any really good moves for Greninja for a while, especially since Ame recently showed discontent with people picking Greninja and Blaziken all the damn time. It's still good, but it's far from peak condition if you don't get stuff like Ice Beam for it from pre-E13.

As for Eevee...don't bother. Unlike comp, stally-supporty things really aren't that good, especially since they have their movepools limited in Reborn. Same goes for all Eeveelutions except for Sylveon, which actually has access to a 390 BP nuke useable only really in Reborn.

I'd also not really advise running Medicham. Despite it's ability, it's too slow and frail. I guess if you also added a Galvantula or Leavanny with Sticky Web, it could work, but without any support...yeah.

[Lostelle]

I just notice that you are missing the extra 4 EV's you can add to a stat on all of your team members, I'd slap it on HP, or Defense.

[Etesian]

I just notice that you are missing the extra 4 EV's you can add to a stat on all of your team members, I'd slap it on HP, or Defense.

Eh, it's just one extra point. On things with even defenses, xe could put 'em in Sp.Def for any stray Porygon-Z with Download, but other than that, who cares.

[Lostelle]

Eh, it's just one extra point. On things with even defenses, xe could put 'em in Sp.Def for any stray Porygon-Z with Download, but other than that, who cares.

Yeah haha I know, it's just something I'm kinda buggy about. d:

[laggless01]

For special attackers, perhaps you want to consider Heliolisk, Manectric, (Galvantula,) Magnezone, Froslass, Gengar, Crobat...

Edited March 10, 2015 by laggless01

[Captain]

Moving onto the team, you....have a Durant. And a Darmanitan. Well, first off, I like you that's really good, but you can do better.

For Slaking, Yawn is really bad. Sleep only lasts 1-3 turns and Truant makes sleep almost pointless. There's Body Slam and it's great para chance from breeding or Crush claw and the defense-drops instead of Strength, Punishment is better than Night Slash due to the huge potential power (check the move out, it's pretty sweet). Or you can run Scope Lens, Slash and Night Slash for the 50% crit chances, but Scope Lens only for NS isn't worth it.

To be honest, it's Curse set is it's best set IMO. Curse, Body Slam, Hammer Arm, Punishment. Slaking has great defenses, it can afford the time to set up just fine.

---To be honestly honest, the pre-E13 Bulk Up set is even better. Bulk Up, Retaliate/Crush Claw/Slash, Shadow Claw/Night Slash, EQ/Brick Break is great.

With both the Bulk Up set and the Curse set, Defense investment is the way to go, since 100 base Speed is decent enough as is, and defense investment will make Curse and Bulk Up all the more worth it.

Slaking is my favorite Pokemon. Slaking has become more of a revenge killer for me. It revenge kills very well. As for its moveset: Yawn is there because I didn't really have anything else to put on it. I also wanted to see if Yawn was still buggy. Strength is there because it was an HM. Who better, on my team, to have Strength? I'll consider going back when I can and breeding TMs. If I do, I'll just breed Return onto Slaking and keep it as my revenge killer. Using Curse on Slaking doesn't appeal to me.

You can go back to pre-E13 to get Rock Slide/Stone Edge and Dig onto this thing as well as Flame Charge to boost that kinda-sucky Speed stat.

It's Speed is still pretty good though, so the new Endeavor tutor can be useful to you.

Also, ditch Headbutt. Even if it's 4x resisted, with a Charcoal, STAB and Sheer Force, it still has 70 BP, meaning that even worst-case scenario (which is only against Kingdra), Headbutt is equal in power. I also dunno about double Fire STAB, but if it's to avoid the recoil, then that works I guess. Post-E12 doesn't give this thing much else anyways.

Headbutt is there on Darmanitan simply because it learned it while leveling up. Although it does get a boost from Sheer Force, I rarely use it. Post Ep-12 Darmanitan doesn't have much to learn. Double fire stab is kinda nice. Why take a chunk of recoil when you know your Sheer Force boosted Fire Punch will do the trick? If I decide to go back to Ep12 and breed TMs I'll lose Fire Punch for something else. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't Sheer Force negate the ability of Flame Charge?

Crunch has redundant coverage since Psychic- and Ghost-types have and will be incredibly rare post-Radomus. Instead, having an SE hit against Dragon-types will definitely come in handy later on. U-Turn is also a great move in comp, but it's unneeded in-game. Endeavor is a good move for Archeops since Defeatist doesn't reduce Speed.

Pre-E13 also gets you EQ for perfect coverage.

Oh, and stack up on some Flying Gems, since they don't interfere with Acrobatics no-held-items boost.

For your second sentence, are you referring to Dragon Claw on Archeops? If so, you do make a good point. I just really like U-turn. Stocking up on Flying Gems is a great idea.

Go to Agate later and give this thing it's only possible Flying-type STAB, Bounce, from the tutor instead of Crunch (same coverage argument as above. it also does way more and can para). Also, go Yanma hunting on Azurine Island. Wild ones can carry Wide Lens (with a 20% chance if you lead with something with Compound Eyes, even if that CE-er is fainted), boosting all moves accuracy by 10% (which Bounce really needs). And yeah, give it Waterfall instead of Aqua Tail, the high flinch-chance and the DD boosts really go well together.

I also don't think Speed EVs are necessary whatsoever. DD will make you outspeed everything anyways, some health investment will come in handy much more. With Moxie, you can also maybe switch natures too.

I just reached Agate so I'll probably teach Gyarados Bounce. I've never liked the move, but it's worth a try. I'll definitely be giving Gyarados Waterfall once I get it. I'm not too far from it. I considered health investment before I EV trained. I got lazy and decided to keep it simple. I'll probably finish up episode 14 and do some more breeding afterwards. I'll probably take your advice on the health investment.

Don't need no Headbutt. Get Ice Punch via Hitmonchan>Buneary>Scra. Same DD and Moxie arguments as above. Nuff said, I guess.

Again, Headbutt is there simply because it learned it while leveling up. Ice Punch is a great idea. I'll do that after I finish up episode 14.

why not Dig over Bug Bite? You already have X-Scissor, BB does nothing for you.

You are correct. I'll use the move relearner in Agate Circus to swap the moves.

Alsoooooo, Hone Claws Durant is by far better than the regular variant, believe me. Pre-E13 gets you both HC and Rock Slide.

That would require Ep-12 TM Breeding. Also I'm in Agate Circus atm. I'll probably do some Ep-12 breeding after I finish episode 14.

I'd also not really advise running Medicham. Despite it's ability, it's too slow and frail. I guess if you also added a Galvantula or Leavanny with Sticky Web, it could work, but without any support...yeah.

The idea of a High Jump Kick, Zen Headbutt, and my choice of two elemental punches with Life Orb really appealed to me. I have tried this in a previous save file. It wasn't as fun as I expected. Medicham's speed was the biggest factor.

Eh, it's just one extra point. On things with even defenses, xe could put 'em in Sp.Def for any stray Porygon-Z with Download, but other than that, who cares.

It's just one EV. I just couldn't be bothered to care.

For special attackers, perhaps you want to consider Heliolisk, Manectric, (Galvantula,) Magnezone, Froslass, Gengar, Crobat...

I'll consider Galvantula after I finish episode 14. That is, if I don't fall in love with Durant. For now, I'm content with my physical attackers

[Etesian]

Well, if you're using it as a revenge killer, wouldn't Retaliate be better? I mean hey, 140 BP STAB.

...dammit, Sheer Force does affect Flame Charge, I forgot. Welp, you can still just go back for Rock Slide or Dig in place of Headbutt then.

Yup, meant Dragon Claw.

The main issue of Bounce is it's accuracy, but not only can a Wide Lens give it like 94%-ish accuracy, you don't really have a better item either. Also, dude, STAB, Gyarados is gonna love that, especially since it's its' only Flying type move for some reason? GG Game Freak.

[Captain]

Well, if you're using it as a revenge killer, wouldn't Retaliate be better? I mean hey, 140 BP STAB.

As far as damage, Retaliate would be better given the right situation. While Slaking has turned out to be a great revenge killer, it doesn't always get to revenge kill. I'd rather have Return for a solid 120 BP Stab. Hell, Strength is doing really well on Slaking as far as damage goes. It even surprises me sometimes.

The main issue of Bounce is it's accuracy, but not only can a Wide Lens give it like 94%-ish accuracy, you don't really have a better item either. Also, dude, STAB, Gyarados is gonna love that, especially since it's its' only Flying type move for some reason? GG Game Freak.

I'll definitely give Bounce a try. Wide Lens seems like a nice item. You're right, Gyarados doesn't have a better item to hold.