Tomy Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Fairy type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madf0x Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Fairy type? lmao no, they became one of the best defense types in the game. Immunity to dragon moves and resistant to some of the strongest offensive types, their move pool is pretty shallow but most of the mons are walls anyways so getting good STABs is irrelevant anyways. I posed this question once to a competitive player I know once and he instantly responded with ice and to me his reasoning made sense: despite being a decent offensive typing you can take literally any pokemon in the game and replace its ice typing with something else and itd become a better pokemon and if you were to take any non-ice pokemon in the game and made one of its types ice it instantly becomes a worse pokemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CURIE Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Watch your back Tomy, the destroyer of worlds Slurpuff is comin for ya. He's got nothing better to do as he waits for episode 15 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Fairy. I ain't afraid of your stinkin' cupcake monster, Eagleby. ....in all seriousness though, I would have to say that Ice is the worst due to lack of unique dual types to help it out. Going by this logic, Froslass is one of the better options - but then you have things like the Abomasnow line where Fire ensures a knockout and is fairly common, and Weavile (yes, one of the -better- Ices) where a stray punch puts it -THROUGH- the canvas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 normal and ice Bibs is going to kill you. Ok another one. Dragon. Sure it's not weak too grass,water,fire and electric. But only super effectivie attack is just dragon. And fairy, steel You must be looking for Ice I posed this question once to a competitive player I know once and he instantly responded with ice and to me his reasoning made sense: despite being a decent offensive typing you can take literally any pokemon in the game and replace its ice typing with something else and itd become a better pokemon and if you were to take any non-ice pokemon in the game and made one of its types ice it instantly becomes a worse pokemon. Ice indeed has it's bad moments. The same goes for Rock, Grass and Bug. You will not see many people use Ice or Rock, but there are several mons that are indeed great. The first examples that come to mind are Kyurem-B, Mamoswine and Weavile. Weavile is redundant because its stats make it frail anyway. Exceptions to your rule should be: Cloyster, Mamoswine and Weavile. But yeah, usually it's bad. I wonder what would happen if we had a Bug/Ice pokemon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madf0x Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Bibs is going to kill you. You must be looking for Ice Ice indeed has it's bad moments. The same goes for Rock, Grass and Bug. You will not see many people use Ice or Rock, but there are several mons that are indeed great. The first examples that come to mind are Kyurem-B, Mamoswine and Weavile. Weavile is redundant because its stats make it frail anyway. Exceptions to your rule should be: Cloyster, Mamoswine and Weavile. But yeah, usually it's bad. I wonder what would happen if we had a Bug/Ice pokemon? Kyurem-B is a legendary so it gets support from sheer BST and its not something I see often either. Mamoswine, weavile, and cloyster all either have a specific ability/move pool/stat distribution that makes them work. Itd be fairly trivial to replace ice typing in all of those and vastly increase their overall power and viability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 That is their characteristic, which makes them unique in their own way. If we are going to take type purely into consideration, yes Ice as it is, cannot cope and had better be something else, as its resistances are in other types too. Since we talk about pokemon, I assume that taking into consideration any trait the pokemon may have is there to either compliment the type, or make use of what it can. Weavile doesn't care about its typing, other than the ability to have STAB. Dark/Ice is a combo rarely resisted, so Weavile gets points for that. Water/Ice is not a bad combo as it is, because Water cancels Steel and Fire. We are back to 4 weaknesses, only now you're substituting 2 types for 2 more rare ones (Fire and Steel - Electric and Grass). Mamoswine is just good as a pokemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I wonder what would happen if we had a Bug/Ice pokemon? It would entirely depend on its base stats. If it's fast and offensive it'll be pretty good, just like Aurorus could have been. Rock/ice is a frightening offensive combo. Bug/ice would give ground and grass types everywhere nightmares. If it's slow and defensive it'll be bad. Like every other slow and defensive ice type. As for my opinion on the topic: Ice[/thread] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 with the exception of Aggron I just can't like rock types very much. Even though they can be good sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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