cdog1019 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Having trouble with florina, seem to have hit the proverbial wall Current Team Baixen 24 Blaze Lonely flame charge fire spin Psybeam Light screen *starter skitty 20 cute charm impish disarming voice double slap copy cat drowzee 15 inner focus sassy confusion hypnosis nasty plot disable woobat 18 simple jolly odor sleuth gust charge beam heart stamp herdier 17 scrappy rash baby-doll eyes helping hand take down ice fang goldeen 18 lightningrod lonely water pulse water spurt supersonic Horn attack pc pokemon swirlix 15(2x, didnt know the shop gave the same thing each puzzle) sweet veil naive play nice fake tears round bellydrum The second one is the same but sub naive for hasty, and bellydrum for fairy wind kricketot 5 shed skin lax growl bide espur 4 keen eye brave scratch leer meowth 5 unnerve brave scratch growl buneary 14 limber hardy defense curl foresight endure frustration hoothoot 7 keen eye lonely tackle growl foresight hypnosis Pancham 13 mold breaker brave leer arm thrust work up karate chop zigzagoon 9 gluttony jolly tackle cut sand attack charge beam glameow 20 own tempo mild growl hypnosis feint attack fury swipes Tms: charge beam, quash, cut 150 available poke A large part of the problem is the lack of ability to get poke. if i had acess to farm that, i would just load up on potions and i probably could pass it. where i am now, ive saved before the gym battle with all my potions on me, and if i fail the battle and had used any potions i end up closing and reopening the game. Edited October 31, 2015 by cdog1019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 You may want to grind up your Pokemon a bit more, since your level cap is level 25. Herdier especially should come in handy with Ice Fang. Also, evolving Woobat to Swoobat would be useful. You also might want to replace Goldeen with something else, maybe a Fighting type like Makuhita for that Cradily. Kricketune would be an easy sweeper in this Gym, although it might take a while to level it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Ah Florinia, if you don't run a Fire or Flying type on your team (right now you can get Fearow, Tranquil, Pidgeotto, Noctowl, Pansear, Numel, Litleo, and Slugma) it'll be a bit tricky. There's a lot of good event Pokemon but I feel your team is capable enough to take her down. If not, pick up some early game evolution and bring them in to increase your power a bit. Raticate is one who did me wonders with Sucker Punch and Hyper Fang. That should get you down to Cradily as long as you're careful not to let her chip down your HP with her movesets. If Cradily is your problem...use Stockpile to your advantage. Once it uses all 3 stockpiles...it can't use it anymore. If you throw a couple screeches its way, it'll be frailer than a Cacturne to an X-Scissor. Most people recommend picking up a fighting type which will make short work of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) well i would bench goldeen for florinia battle because it is weak to most of the pokemon she has. well also i would grind all your pokemon to 23-25. i would grab a makuhita or pancham and train it since fighting types are very useful against florinia. Edited October 31, 2015 by Luna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sound of silence Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Eh, pancham isn't that great. If you're not using makuhita, I'd recommend mankey as the combination of focus energy + karate chop will invalidate any boosts to the defense of her cradily, while it can survive a few rock type attacks. If possible, try to get one with its hidden ability of defiant as I'm finding that to be a godsend of an ability early game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlboy21 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) So, clearly I'm doing something wrong here. Ciel, the fly-high girl, is giving me trouble. Main Team (Yammy) Cofagrigus- 69 Bold Nature (Super lucky break) Mummy Ability Pain Split Will-O-Wisp Shadow Ball Destiny Bond (No Item) (Lingette) Typhlosion-72 Timid Nature (Also Lucky) Flash Fire Ability Strength Shadow Claw Flamethrower Eruption (Charcoal) (Dumbo) Donphan- 62 Brave Nature (Triple luck?) Sturdy Ability Iron Tail Earthquake Rock Smash Knock Off (metronome) (Ms. Doubtfur) Meowstic-F - 69 Competitive Ability Modest Nature (Press nature to win) Light Screen Psychic Rain Dance (Whoops, fire gym) Shadow Ball (mind Plate (Eugene Crabs) Crustle - 71 Sturdy Ability Adamant Nature (Holy) Slash X-Scissor Shell Smash Rock Slide (Hard Stone) (Thicks) Hariyama- 64 Guts Ability Lax Nature (Meh) Knock off Fake Out Close combat Brick Break (Black Belt) Notable PC Mons (Most of em untrained) Chinchou- 57 Sealeo- 50 Absol- 55 Bronzong-71 Vanillish- 41 Ralts (M)- 10 Clefairy- 38 Jynx- 35 Rhydon (No link stone)- 55 Blastoise- 58 Helioptile- 42 Ursaring- 58 Floatzel(Water HM slave) -60 Misdreveus- 38 Mareep- 14 Pichu- 9 Vanillish (AKA Vanillish Ice) (Not so good moves)- 61 COBRA KAI (Ekans)- 25 If you want to learn any more info on any of my mons, just drop their name, (or alias, if applied) and Ill get back to ya. My strategy starts by leading with Mr. Krabs, Shell smashing, hoping that the togekiss either aura spheres, or that air slash doesnt flinch. I then rock slide, either missing the rock slide, or OHKOing the togekiss. RKEEOPS comes next, proceeds to clean shop. I send out Yammy, burn it, but then it decides "I dont want to be a defeatist. I want to be a MUMMY". And thats how it half-uncripples itself when I bring it down to half health. after that its just a blur of it sweeping me. once I actually brought her down to the Altaria, but then SURPRISE SURPRISE. MEGA ALTARIA. and then I just gave up. Notable Items in bag ULTRAAA POTION x10 Full heal x15 Cotton candy x3 1 Rare candy Wide lens x1 Focus sash x1 Scope lens x1 Metronomes x1 (Not including Donphans) Magnet and Blast powder (x5 Each) Icicle and iron plates x1 each dawn stone (x1) Silver powder, silk scar, poison gem (x1 each) 9 Air balloons. (whoops) 2 light clays NvrMltIce x1 14.7k moolah. (Total BANK) Edited November 1, 2015 by Karlboy21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytch_doctr Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So, clearly I'm doing something wrong here. Ciel, the fly-high girl, is giving me trouble. Main Team (Yammy) Cofagrigus- 69 Bold Nature (Super lucky break) Mummy Ability Pain Split Will-O-Wisp Shadow Ball Destiny Bond (No Item) (Lingette) Typhlosion-72 Timid Nature (Also Lucky) Flash Fire Ability Strength Shadow Claw Flamethrower Eruption (Charcoal) (Dumbo) Donphan- 62 Brave Nature (Triple luck?) Sturdy Ability Iron Tail Earthquake Rock Smash Knock Off (metronome) (Ms. Doubtfur) Meowstic-F - 69 Competitive Ability Modest Nature (Press nature to win) Light Screen Psychic Rain Dance (Whoops, fire gym) Shadow Ball (mind Plate (Eugene Crabs) Crustle - 71 Sturdy Ability Adamant Nature (Holy) Slash X-Scissor Shell Smash Rock Slide (Hard Stone) (Thicks) Hariyama- 64 Guts Ability Lax Nature (Meh) Knock off Fake Out Close combat Brick Break (Black Belt) Notable PC Mons (Most of em untrained) Chinchou- 57 Sealeo- 50 Absol- 55 Bronzong-71 Vanillish- 41 Ralts (M)- 10 Clefairy- 38 Jynx- 35 Rhydon (No link stone)- 55 Blastoise- 58 Helioptile- 42 Ursaring- 58 Floatzel(Water HM slave) -60 Misdreveus- 38 Mareep- 14 Pichu- 9 Vanillish (AKA Vanillish Ice) (Not so good moves)- 61 COBRA KAI (Ekans)- 25 If you want to learn any more info on any of my mons, just drop their name, (or alias, if applied) and Ill get back to ya. My strategy starts by leading with Mr. Krabs, Shell smashing, hoping that the togekiss either aura spheres, or that air slash doesnt flinch. I then rock slide, either missing the rock slide, or OHKOing the togekiss. RKEEOPS comes next, proceeds to clean shop. I send out Yammy, burn it, but then it decides "I dont want to be a defeatist. I want to be a MUMMY". And thats how it half-uncripples itself when I bring it down to half health. after that its just a blur of it sweeping me. once I actually brought her down to the Altaria, but then SURPRISE SURPRISE. MEGA ALTARIA. and then I just gave up. Notable Items in bag ULTRAAA POTION x10 Full heal x15 Cotton candy x3 1 Rare candy Wide lens x1 Focus sash x1 Scope lens x1 Metronomes x1 (Not including Donphans) Magnet and Blast powder (x5 Each) Icicle and iron plates x1 each dawn stone (x1) Silver powder, silk scar, poison gem (x1 each) 9 Air balloons. (whoops) 2 light clays NvrMltIce x1 14.7k moolah. (Total BANK) Level everything to lv75. that should help Also, a Steel type is amazing in this gym since you can easily KO the Togekiss and Altaria. There is a Move tutor with Iron Tail in the circus if you're struggling. Most Ice types will have a great time too. Just basically sweep with a walrein who's bulky enough to take a few hits. A stealth-rock user with Sturdy is gonna be a ton of help too. Oh yeah. Bronzong with trick room and heavy slam. OHKO Archeops. Just let him set up on the Togekiss first, which he should be able to kill if he doesnt get flnched. Levitate also helped with the Altaria's EQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sound of silence Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 In regards to the person stuck on Ciel Out: Hariyama In: Bronzong Setting up TR is your best hope for this match. Teach cofagrigus TR over...probably pain split for this battle, and get TR on bronzong. Contrary to other advice, I'd try and KO togekiss before setting up, as you can potentially bait archeops into using EQ (it has a choice band) on something like rhydon, then switching to levitate bronzong to set up trick room. Your biggest problem is you have absolutely nothing that can stand against paraflinch shenanigans that togekiss employs, and the AI does not hesitate to employ them if you lack something immune to thunder wave. If you had a heart scale, I'd be telling you to grind up chinchou to level 70 and use the move tutor to get thunder wave on it. Failing that, you might want to consider the long and painful process of grinding up that mareep with thunder wave for this battle, as you're going to be soft resetting for a miracle vs togekiss otherwise. I'm really concerned you have missed WAY too many event pokemon and good items along your journey. Good luck, you'll need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 @sound of silence pancham is better than mankey in terms of move pool. mankey is too frail and only has 2 fighting type moves whne it hits lvl 25. Plus pancham/pangoro can be used for shade since he has the ability scrappy. 2 birds 1 stone rather than wasting time training a frail and useless fighting type like mankey i rather train pancham. but the best fighting type available early is 100% makuhita. @karlboy21 Remove hariyama from you team since he cant do much vs a team of flying types. train up sealeo and evole him to walrein and add him to you team also you can add lanturn to deal with talonflame and bronzong to deal with mega altaria,. Also just grind your pokemon to around lvl 73-74. you can whack the clown at agate circus since he can be battled again and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeFg Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The irony of it, playing a ground mono, I'm having problems with Aya, and this is the first gym I've had serious problems with. Just so you guys know this is on hardcore as well, so yeah, here's my team so far. Diggersby L.45 Bounce Strength Dig Double Kick Dugtrio Lv. 45 Dig Slash Sucker Punch Earthquake Claydol Lv.45 Cosmic Power Stealth Rocks Earth Power Extrasensory Nidoking Lv.45 Earth Power Poison Jab Thrash Rock Smash Camerupt Lv.45 Yawn Earth Power Lava Plume Rock Slide Quagsire Lv.45 Muddy Water Earthquake Amnesia Yawn And in the PC we have: Torterra Lv.45 Earthquake Crunch Leech Seed Razor Leaf Piloswine Lv.40 Thrash Ice Shard Icy Wind Earthquake Wishcash Lv.40 Earthquake Rest Sleep Talk Aqua Tail Golurk Lv.45 Heavy Slam Dynamic Punch Magnitude Shadow Punch Golem Lv.45 Stealth Rock Rock Throw Earthquake Self-Destruct Flygone Lv.39 Earthquake Crunch Superpower Dragon Claw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenome Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 If you can teach Flygon dig. Then set it up next to as many earthquake users as possible while it uses dig. Its levitate makes EQ completely unneffective and it can just keep OHKO most everything and dodging Draglage's poision spams until the team can kill it. Also evolving piloswine would help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeFg Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 If you can teach Flygon dig. Then set it up next to as many earthquake users as possible while it uses dig. Its levitate makes EQ completely unneffective and it can just keep OHKO most everything and dodging Draglage's poision spams until the team can kill it. Also evolving piloswine would help a lot. The only thing about that strategy is that her field makes earthquake deal so little damage it's usually not even worth it, and I haven't progressed the story far enough to get to the move remember, so I can't evolve piloswine just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bash23 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) What are the 3 other Pokemons of Ciel?? I know she has a Mega Altaria, Gliscor and Togekiss(i think) Edited November 2, 2015 by bash23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2001 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 What are the 3 other Pokemons of Ciel?? I know she has a Mega Altaria, Gliscor and Togekiss(i think) Talonflame, Archeops and Noivern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) @ AnimeFg well you can change the field by using mist. if i am not wrong Piloswine/Mamoswine learn it. Once the field is misted just EQ away but watch out aya might turn the field to Corrosive mist(dont think she has moves to do so but just be incase bring a mon which can kaboom the corrosive mist field). You can still EQ away in Corrosive mist or you can always just use mist again to make it back to normal mist or use lava plume to kaboom the field/ use explosion/self-destruct to make field into neutral field. well since you can catch lvl 30+ swinub at the ice cave near shades gym it will be easy to have a piloswine with mist since swinub learns mist at lvl 35. Edited November 2, 2015 by Luna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeFg Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 @ AnimeFg well you can change the field by using mist. if i am not wrong Piloswine/Mamoswine learn it. Once the field is misted just EQ away but watch out aya might turn the field to Corrosive mist(dont think she has moves to do so but just be incase bring a mon which can kaboom the corrosive mist field). You can still EQ away in Corrosive mist or you can always just use mist again to make it back to normal mist or use lava plume to kaboom the field/ use explosion/self-destruct to make field into neutral field. well since you can catch lvl 30+ swinub at the ice cave near shades gym it will be easy to have a piloswine with mist since swinub learns mist at lvl 35. Oh my god, i totally forgot about that, thank you so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugget_22 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 hi im stuck on shelly somehow i do burning field but she spams bubblebeam team: braixen level 34 bold magician light screen psyshock fire spin flame charge camerupt level 34 quirky solid rock lava plume flame burst magnitude earth power hariyama level 32 mild guts vital throw force palm smelling salts fake out meowstic M level 33 adamant prankster miracle eye psybeam psyshock disarming voice luxray level 34 quiet intimidate charge beam spark roar bite shiny nidorino level 32 jolly rivalry poison sting double kick horn attack cut notable pc pokemon: budew level 5 happiny level 10 pancham level 12 mareep level 14 5 level 15 swirlix a level 15 vanillite a level 15 spoink a level 18 electrike level 20 slugma level 24 helioptile level 25 spritzee a level 25 ponyta 4 shiny poochyena a shiny sewaddle a shiny pidgeotto rattata level 12 level 16 onix level 17 gulpin level 20 linoone level 23 trubbish level 26 kricketune level 13 axew from egg level 25 murkrow and finally a level 25 growlithe -pant- -pant- thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeFg Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You could totally level that axew up to 32, where it gets dragon dance, and if you have enough potions it should sweep all by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytch_doctr Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Camerupt literally swept Shelly for me. Take out the Masquerain and you should really not be facing any difficulties. Also, why does your Meowstic M not have any support moves? It's nature is terrible as a damage dealer and PRANKSTER light screen will help you take the bubblebeam better Shell Smash Macargo also has the potential to sweep this gym. Edited November 2, 2015 by wytch_doctr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 @ AnimeFg No problem. @nugget_22 well you can win easily just take out that pesky masquerain. i wonder why your camerupt does not have rock slide. oh well just dont lead with 2 fire types burn the field and lead with a fire type which can burn the forest and a flying type which cannot be affected by the burning field the flying type maybe an unfezant since you can get pidove at the slums and you can easily train it up to unfezant cause the grand hall trainer can be rebattle again and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sound of silence Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Easier idea for nugget22: Lead with hairyama and camerupt. Have hariyama use fake out on masquerain, and have camerupt use lava plume. Don't worry about hariyama getting burned as its collateral damage for this fight, or better yet teach it facade if you are good enough to manipulate the voltorb flip game in the game corner. Unless the AI has become smart enough to have illumise use rain dance turn 1 now... Or alternatively, if you can find 3 red shards, there is a house in the lapis ward that will teach braixen fire pledge. go there and do that. That move will also torch the field, allowing you to bring camerupt in after you kill masquerain and sweep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethKM Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Hey guys! I have some trouble with Aya for now. Having such a hard time to make a strategy out of her but she always try to intercept it. Here are my pokes in spoiler Repentance/Corsola Level 44 - Hard Stone Ability: Regenerator Moves Bubblebeam Power Gem Earth Power Curse Hegemony/Beautifly Level 44 - Big Root Ability: Swarm Moves Air Cutter Giga Drain Bug Buzz Quiver Dance Pontifice/Blaziken Level 44 - None Ability: Speed Boost Moves Slash Bulk Up Blaze Kick Sand Attack (LOL) Frisco/Trevenant Level 39 - Spooky Plate Ability: Frisk Moves Leech Seed Shadow Claw Destiny Bond Feint Attack Malice/Murkrow Level 44 - Sky Plate Ability: Super Luck Moves Wing Attack Night Shade Foul Play Brave Bird Eyre/Donphan Level 43 - None Ability: Sturdy Moves Rollout Rock Smash Earthquake Slam Might be one of the weakest team I had ever used for Aya. Any tips? Box: Interjangle/Cacturne Level 41 - Rose Incense Ability: Water Absorb Moves Leech Seed Needle Arm Nasty Plot Feint Attack [Damn Defense EV is 80] Nightingale/Zorua Level 30 - None Ability: Illusion Moves Scary Face Taunt Foul Play Extrasensory Kleptic/Dusclops Level 37 - None Ability: Frisk Moves Confuse Ray Curse Will-o-wisp Shadow Punch Edited November 6, 2015 by SethKM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytch_doctr Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Hey guys! I have some trouble with Aya for now. Having such a hard time to make a strategy out of her but she always try to intercept it. Here are my pokes in spoiler Repentance/Corsola - Level 44 - Hard Stone Ability: Regenerator Moves Bubblebeam Power Gem Earth Power Curse Hegemony/Beautifly - Level 44 - Big Root Ability: Swarm Moves Air Cutter Giga Drain Bug Buzz Quiver Dance Pontifice/Blaziken - Level 44 - None Ability: Speed Boost Moves Slash Bulk Up Blaze Kick Sand Attack (LOL) Frisco/Trevenant - Level 39 - Spooky Plate Ability: Frisk Moves Leech Seed Shadow Claw Destiny Bond Feint Attack Malice/Murkrow - Level 44 - Sky Plate Ability: Super Luck Moves Wing Attack Night Shade Foul Play Brave Bird Eyre/Donphan - Level 43 - None Ability: Sturdy Moves Rollout Rock Smash Earthquake Slam Might be one of the weakest team I had ever used for Aya. Any tips? Box: Interjangle/Cacturne - Level 41 - Rose Incense Ability: Water Absorb Moves Leech Seed Needle Arm Nasty Plot Feint Attack [Damn Defense EV is 80] Nightingale/Zorua - Level 30 - None Ability: Illusion Moves Scary Face Taunt Foul Play Extrasensory Kleptic/Dusclops - Level 37 - None Ability: Frisk Moves Confuse Ray Curse Will-o-wisp Shadow Punch Psychic types are the way to go for Aya. Only Drapion on her team is immune to Psychic (if I remember correctly.) So if you go grab a Meowstic (Female would be best, but you can breed it with a Ditto if you got it from the Amaria factory raid.) and keep it alive with your second mon, you can basically sweep her. Also, a Camerupt is great for this gym as it can learn things like Earth Power which isn't resisted by drapion. Hydro Pump may be a problem though, form Dragalgae. A final tip is to get a Piloswine, who learns Mist through level-up. It neutralizes the field (I think, it works for most terrain) and you can just go with EQ spam after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 @SethKM Aya is weak to psychic type and certain ground types moves(earth power,Dig,Drill Run) if you play in her wasteland field but you can always change the field to what you want using Mist,Misty terrain,Electric terrain and Grassy terrain. The most readily available field changing move is Mist. Well Quagsire,Pelipper and Piloswine are the few pokemon you can consider using to mist the field. Train piloswine to lvl 46 since it learns EQ at lvl 46 and use common candy to lower its lvl to the lvl cap. Quagsire learns mist at lvl 48 and piloswine learns it at lvl 37 so i guess the best pokemon to run mist on is piloswine or pelipper. Here is the team i would run to fight Aya: Piloswine Lvl 44-soft sand Ability:Thick Fat Earthquake( Lvl up to lvl 46 to learn) Ice fang Mist icy wind( can be replaced with any moves) Quagsire Lvl 44-none Ability:Water Absorb Earthquake Yawn Rain Dance Mud Bomb Meowstic M Lvl 44-light clay Ability:Prankster Light Screen Reflect Psyshock Psychic Swoobat/Woobat lvl 44-Sky plate Ability:Simple Calm mind Air cutter Psychic Air Slash Camerupt(optional) Lvl 44-none Ability:Rock solid Lava plume Rock slide Earthquake(lvl up to lvl 46 to learn and than use common candy to lower to lvl cap) Earth Power Donphan Lvl 44-none Ability:Sturdy Rollout Rock smash Earthquake Slam well lead with piloswine and swoobat/any flying type. Mist the field and Calm mind than start spamming eq and pyschic/air slash/air cutter to kill everything. well i would get rid of beautifly and corsola cause they are not that good stat wise and move pool wise in late game replace beautifly with swoobat and corsola with Quagsire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethKM Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'll try to substitute them for now. I'm trying to avoid getting pokemons I already had before, Meowstic/Piloswine/Camerupt wise, but it will be good to try Quagsire and Swoobat for a change. Thanks for the suggestion Luna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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