Gym Leader Help Thread

[Shing]

  On 5/18/2015 at 2:20 PM, Ulqui said:

Thanks for that dude. Crawli was easy, but then I went in a dark cave without Flash. Fun time.

It's not really to hard without flash i can say.

And if you want flash, you can get it by having 1000 coins at the casino.

[Warusou]

You know what time it is: another fella stuck at Angie.

Here's my team:

Blaziken | Lv. 55
Hold Item: N/A
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Bashful
- Brave Bird
- Shadow Claw
- Blaze Kick
- Double Kick

Shiftry | Lv. 54
Hold Item: Miracle Seed
Ability: Early Bird
Nature: Bold
- Feint Attack
- Extrasensory
- Leaf Storm
- Leaf Blade

Greninja | Lv. 54
Hold Item: Hard Stone
Ability: Protean
Nature: Docile
- Bounce
- Smack Down
- Extrasensory
- Surf

Xatu | Lv. 54
Hold Item: Twisted Spoon
Ability: Magic Bounce
Nature: Timid
- Psychic
- Air Slash
- Confuse Ray
- Ominous Wind

Toxicroak | Lv. 54
Hold Item: Black Belt
Ability: Poison Touch
Nature: Adamant
- Zen Headbutt
- Sucker Punch
- Revenge
- Poison Jab

Ampharos | Lv. 54
Hold Item: Quick Claw
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Serious
- Signal Beam
- Confuse Ray
- Discharge
- Power Gem

EDIT: I just so happened to beat her immediately after posting this!

Edited May 18, 2015 by Warusou

[Ulqui]

  On 5/18/2015 at 2:24 PM, Shing said:

It's not really to hard without flash i can say.

And if you want flash, you can get it by having 1000 coins at the casino.

Yup I know its there, but yeah im not gonna buy it, not worth it.

[Peepeepoopoo]

Hey, you know what this thread needs more of? People stuck in Angie's hell hole.

So I was just wondering if it's true that you can get rid of her stupid field with an Eruption. I've got a Camerupt right now with Eruption and I sent it out first against her Abomasnow. I used Eruption. The text was as follows;

"The cold weakened the attack. The ice melted (field disappears, graphics change from icy terrain to cave terrain). The ice shattered (graphics go back from cave terrain to ice terrain)."

I one-shot the abomasnow which is cool and all but this doesn't seem to remove the field which is super sad. I took down her Walrein with a curse, then she sent out her Froslass and used Cold Truth. It said something along the lines of "The immense cold powered up the attack" indicating that the field was still here. Do I need to use a different move or is it not possible to remove the field?

Edit:

Welp, I just beat her with a bit of luck and a lot of potions (used up the hyper potions and max potions I had too :'( ) I'll post my team and strategy as it's quite different from the teams that have seen success on this thread so far against Angie.

My team (they were all level 53 entering the battle);

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Hera [Camerupt]

Timid:Solid Rock

@None

Yawn

Earth Power

Eruption

Amnesia

Reaver [Dusclops]

Brave:Pressure

@Quick Claw

Shadow Ball

Will-O-Wisp

Confuse Ray

Curse

Voltage [Ampharos]

Relaxed:Static

@Hard Stone

Discharge

Power Gem

Signal Beam

Thunder Wave

Purity [Mr. Mime]

Sassy:Soundproof

@Light Clay

Psychic

Safeguard

Light Screen

Reflect

Luss [Medicham]

Docile:Pure Power

@None

Force Palm

Hi Jump Kick

Meditate

Recover

Anubis [Houndoom]

Bashful:Flash Fire

@Flame Plate

Fire Fang

Flamethrower

Feint Attack

Foul Play

The strat;

Lead with Camerupt to OHKO the Abomasnow with Eruption. This had Angie send out her Walrein (because it has Surf). I switched into Dusclops and used Curse. Don't know if it was faster or if it was the Quick claw but I got it off before dying. Then I switched into Mr. Mime and set up Light Screen (Angie uses mostly special attacks except for Abomasnow I believe) and Safeguard (mainly to protect against the Walrein's toxic but also to prevent freeze). From here it was a stall war between Mr. Mime and Walrein. I kept healthy using potions. I had to set my Light Screen and Safeguard up one or two more times. The hail was long gone by the time her Walrein fainted because of the Curse. She sent out her Froslass to which I responded with Houndoom. Because of the Light Screen I took her Froslass' Thunderbolt quite well and 2HKO'd her Froslass with Feint Attack (eat that Snow Veil). After the Froslass came her Glaceon, to which I sent out Medicham. From there I Hi Jump Kick'd the rest of her team (thankfully it didn't miss once).

TL;DR get Mr. Mime with Light Clay, Light Screen and Safeguard, Camerupt with Eruption/Houndoom with Flamethrower and Faint Attack (I don't know if you can OHKO Abomasnow with a Flamethrower but it's worth a shot) and Medicham with Pure Power and Hi Jump Kick. And pray that RNGeesus is with you.

Edited May 20, 2015 by vsx2000goton

[hawkespeon]

Guys I saw Videos and stuff about beating Angie's team, and one thing came in my mind, her levels in my game are a lot higher (like her weakest pokemon was Abomasnow and it was lv 60 I believe), was it normal? 'Cause i'm seeing videos with her pokes around 56 - 58.

[berlyda]

The levels depend on the difficulty. You must be playing on a harder difficulty than the people in the video. Also bear in mind Jan made Intense Mode harder in 5-5, which I think includes higher levels.

[Karlboy21]

It seems that I have trouble with all the gyms no one has trouble with.
Except For the Arceus Freak that is Angie

A lot of people I have seen play through have been beaten easily by her.

Current Team-

Impish Houndoom Lvl. 47

Ability- Flash Fire

Fire Fang

Feint Attack

Foul Play

Bite

(Trying to level grind for Flamethrower)

Hardy Feraligatr Lvl. 57 (Oops)

Crunch

Surf

Ice Fang

Slash

(Torrent)

Careful Ursaring Lvl. 47

Bulk Up

Feint Attack

Shadow Claw

Rock Smash

(Guts)

(I can never get a bulk up off. It can't handle the Cold Truth... Oh Boy)

Relaxed Scolipede Lvl. 52

Steamroller

Toxic

Venom Drench

Rock Climb

(Swarm)

(Straight out the wild moveset)

Quirky Tangrowth Lvl. 53

Holding- Quick Claw

Ancient Power

Knock Off

Cut

Giga Drain

(Regenerator)

Serious Mawile Lvl. 48

Iron head

Double team

Sucker Punch

Crunch

(Hyper Cutter)

As you can see, I haven't had the best luck with Natures. Most of them are either Natures that screw the pokemon over completely and/or are neutral.

Now I really want an answer for this one question WHERE IN GOD'S NAME IS THE TUTOR

PLEASE TELL ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Also, I really need some items that can help my team out.

I have a Hitmonchan in my PC as well as a Tyrogue that is going to evolve into a Hitmonlee. I also have a Swoobat.

Halp me pls

[Peepeepoopoo]

  On 5/25/2015 at 2:19 AM, Karlboy21 said:

Now I really want an answer for this one question WHERE IN GOD'S NAME IS THE TUTOR

PLEASE TELL ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Move Tutor is not available until you beat Angie and finish all help quests in that town. You're SOL there. I recommend replacing Ursaring with a Thick Fat Hariyama. Hariyama's naturally high HP and attack stat along with good moves such as knockoff and close combat will help you a lot in this gym.

[Karlboy21]

  On 5/25/2015 at 2:28 AM, vsx2000goton said:

Move Tutor is not available until you beat Angie and finish all help quests in that town. You're SOL there. I recommend replacing Ursaring with a Thick Fat Hariyama. Hariyama's naturally high HP and attack stat along with good moves such as knockoff and close combat will help you a lot in this gym.

Well isn't that fantastic. Oh and thanks for the tip with Hariyama. I'll capture one. You get them in Sheridan, right?

[Fumble]

Yes, there are Makuhitas available in the Sheridan Village grass.

[Karlboy21]

  On 5/25/2015 at 2:54 AM, Chubb the Pig said:

Yes, there are Makuhitas available in the Sheridan Village grass.

Day 230- Still no trace of a thick fat Makuhita. 10 boxes full of Guts Makuhita. I've lost valuable education. What is Pi? Apple Pi?

[Peepeepoopoo]

  On 5/25/2015 at 2:43 PM, Karlboy21 said:

Day 230- Still no trace of a thick fat Makuhita. 10 boxes full of Guts Makuhita. I've lost valuable education. What is Pi? Apple Pi?

That's odd. First Makuhita I caught was Thick Fat. Didn't know that one was rarer than the other. I'm sure RNGeesus is just trolling you.

[Karlboy21]

  On 5/25/2015 at 2:45 PM, vsx2000goton said:

That's odd. First Makuhita I caught was Thick Fat. Didn't know that one was rarer than the other. I'm sure RNGeesus is just trolling you.

Literally the encounter after I made this post, I got the Thick Fat Makuhita. AND OH MY GOD ITS ADAMANT HAHA

[Karlboy21]

  On 5/25/2015 at 2:48 PM, Karlboy21 said:

Literally the encounter after I made this post, I got the Thick Fat Makuhita. AND OH MY GOD ITS ADAMANT HAHA

Wait, after Catching, I have no clue what moveset or item to put on it once I've trained it.

Edited May 25, 2015 by Karlboy21

[Milotic]

  On 5/25/2015 at 2:19 AM, Karlboy21 said:

It seems that I have trouble with all the gyms no one has trouble with.

Except For the Arceus Freak that is Angie

A lot of people I have seen play through have been beaten easily by her.

Current Team-

Impish Houndoom Lvl. 47

Ability- Flash Fire

Fire Fang

Feint Attack

Foul Play

Bite

(Trying to level grind for Flamethrower)

Hardy Feraligatr Lvl. 57 (Oops)

Crunch

Surf

Ice Fang

Slash

(Torrent)

Careful Ursaring Lvl. 47

Bulk Up

Feint Attack

Shadow Claw

Rock Smash

(Guts)

(I can never get a bulk up off. It can't handle the Cold Truth... Oh Boy)

Relaxed Scolipede Lvl. 52

Steamroller

Toxic

Venom Drench

Rock Climb

(Swarm)

(Straight out the wild moveset)

Quirky Tangrowth Lvl. 53

Holding- Quick Claw

Ancient Power

Knock Off

Cut

Giga Drain

(Regenerator)

Serious Mawile Lvl. 48

Iron head

Double team

Sucker Punch

Crunch

(Hyper Cutter)

As you can see, I haven't had the best luck with Natures. Most of them are either Natures that screw the pokemon over completely and/or are neutral.

Now I really want an answer for this one question WHERE IN GOD'S NAME IS THE TUTOR

PLEASE TELL ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Also, I really need some items that can help my team out.

I have a Hitmonchan in my PC as well as a Tyrogue that is going to evolve into a Hitmonlee. I also have a Swoobat.

Halp me pls

Dude all you actually need is the Hitmonlee ... i dont understand why everyone neglects the usefulness of reverse candies. Level hitmonlee to lv 57 via Breeder from the ship to learn CC, then use 2 reverse candies on hitmonlee so you dont go over the lv cap boom no move tutor needed, then proceed to CC angie's entire team bar Froslass, that's the only pokemon that you cant CC, so train up that Houndoom to 55 as well to combat the Froslass, then you should be good to go. Her Walrein is also pretty bulky so training up Hariyama will be good for you too.

Edited May 25, 2015 by SexyMilotic

[Peepeepoopoo]

  On 5/25/2015 at 4:08 PM, SexyMilotic said:

Her Walrein is also pretty bulky so training up Hariyama will be good for you too.

Or you can burn/toxic stall it (and also stall out the hail assuming you've KO'D the Abomasnow already). This will also get her to use all the hyper potions she has.

[LeonTakashi]

Like the other have said, Have Hitmonlee and Hariyama (as back up if Hitmonlee faints) and both have close combat, you basically can sweep her whole team with them cept the froslass one, you can just bring a fire type or use ur houndoom on it, also if u got a chandelure, It can learn flame burst to remove the ice field too.

[ShatteredSkys]

So I'm at Crawli's gym and I kind of have a dilemma around ep 4 my team has slowly been taken over by grass types. I started with a snivy, I later picked up a sawsbuck to beat pre nerf Narcissa and after Narcissa I trained my self a shiny trevenent (Does anyone know where I can get Sitrus Berries?). Does anyone know any goood pokemon for Crawli? I was originally going to pick up a fossil pokemon but there still not out yet so I guess I'll just have to find something else.

[Peepeepoopoo]

  On 5/26/2015 at 10:49 PM, ShatteredSkys said:

Does anyone know any goood pokemon for Crawli? I was originally going to pick up a fossil pokemon but there still not out yet so I guess I'll just have to find something else.

You could do with a stealthrocker to cripple his team greatly. I recommend Golem (you should have the link heart by now). Also a water type Pokemon would be a good idea considering the rain. For this I suggest Swampert (you can get a mudkip in Wispy Path).

[Azeria]

Empoleon destroys him but you don't have that....hmm,try getting the Magneton from the Sidequest thing,it walls a good portion of his team,for the Volcarona,have a Flying type like Crobat to keep it from sweeping. In a recent run,those two managed to beat him on their own.

[tails12]

  On 5/26/2015 at 10:49 PM, ShatteredSkys said:

Does anyone know any good pokemon for Crawli?

I don't know if Sitrus Berries were available, but I also recommend Ampharos for Crawli's Gym. It getting Power Gem and being in the rain helps its case for Thunder if it has it. I used this combo alongside Empoleon to completely dominate him, even in IM.

[superlucario603]

So it's pretty early game, so their move pools aren't too great.. and I'm sure it's just a matter of grinding for a little bit, but I was curious if anyone could offer any advice. Thanks!

[[Keta]]

Noibat Level 24

Quick Claw

Infiltrator

Quiet Nature

-Gust

-Air Cutter

-Supersonic

-Agility

Servine Level 24

Rose Incense

Contrary

Bold Nature

-Leech Seed

-Leer

-Mega Drain

-Leaf Tornado

Frogadier Level 23

No item

Protean

Rash Nature

-Bounce

-X-Scissor

-Quick Attack

-Water Pulse

Litleo Level 25

No item

Rivalry

Relaxed Nature

-Ember

-Fire Fang

-Headbutt

-Rock Smash

Butterfree Level 24

TwistedSpoon

CompoundEyes

Docile Nature

-Gust

-Psybeam

-Stun Spore

-Sleep Powder

Pidgeotto Level 23

No item

Keen Eye

Docile Nature

-Tackle

-Sand-Attack

-Gust

-Quick Attack

[Milotic]

  On 5/27/2015 at 4:39 AM, superlucario603 said:

So it's pretty early game, so their move pools aren't too great.. and I'm sure it's just a matter of grinding for a little bit, but I was curious if anyone could offer any advice. Thanks!

[[Keta]]

Noibat Level 24

Quick Claw

Infiltrator

Quiet Nature

-Gust

-Air Cutter

-Supersonic

-Agility

Servine Level 24

Rose Incense

Contrary

Bold Nature

-Leech Seed

-Leer

-Mega Drain

-Leaf Tornado

Frogadier Level 23

No item

Protean

Rash Nature

-Bounce

-X-Scissor

-Quick Attack

-Water Pulse

Litleo Level 25

No item

Rivalry

Relaxed Nature

-Ember

-Fire Fang

-Headbutt

-Rock Smash

Butterfree Level 24

TwistedSpoon

CompoundEyes

Docile Nature

-Gust

-Psybeam

-Stun Spore

-Sleep Powder

Pidgeotto Level 23

No item

Keen Eye

Docile Nature

-Tackle

-Sand-Attack

-Gust

-Quick Attack

Yea grind for sure, but with this team you should be able to win easy (assuming you are playing on Normal or Easy), but you may want to do the Help quest in Sheridan Village that gives you a Spearow, it evolves at Lv 20 so having a Fearow will be much better than a Pidgeotto in this battle or keep both in drop off Litleo in the PC for the time being

Edited May 27, 2015 by SexyMilotic

[Jayoku]

  On 5/26/2015 at 10:49 PM, ShatteredSkys said:

So I'm at Crawli's gym and I kind of have a dilemma around ep 4 my team has slowly been taken over by grass types. I started with a snivy, I later picked up a sawsbuck to beat pre nerf Narcissa and after Narcissa I trained my self a shiny trevenent (Does anyone know where I can get Sitrus Berries?). Does anyone know any goood pokemon for Crawli? I was originally going to pick up a fossil pokemon but there still not out yet so I guess I'll just have to find something else.

This worked wonders for me and I recommend it to anybody stuck with Crawli. You can train a spewpa or for more dramatic effect catch Rorrim B's Vivillion and train it to level 50 for Hurricane and Quiver Dance. Jan added a rain effect for Crawli in order to weaken Fire types but in the rain you can hit all the Hurricanes you want. Also, Quicer dance raises your stats by 2 stages so if you can get Vivillion out you can just sweep his whole team with +2 Hurricanes.

[Cepheus]

I'll be giving my strategies for beating Crawli and Angie... both of which I UTTERLY DESTROYED on my first try! (On Reborn Difficulty that is)

and I didn't look up here or any videos... I went in there knowing only their Type.

They only killed the Pokemon I was willing to sacrifice from the start meaning 1 or 2 of them because of their specific roles I only needed them for:

All Levels were 1 below level cap - 49 for Crawli and 54 for Angie

Crawli

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Lead with:

Golem

Sturdy

Rock Polish

Rollout

Earthquake

Stealth Rock

Obviously I lead with stealth rock angainst his Castellith then proceeded with EQ until his Castellith fainted... it was spamming Barbed Web...

Next was Galvantula... which managed to KO Golem...

Then came:

Noivern

Frisk

Air Slash

Roost

Superfang

Tailwind

Air Slash spam... just Air slash spam... Noivern outsped EVERYTHING... his Volcarona got down to half HP because of stealth rocks and it got One Shot... like everything else...

That's Crawli for you...

Angie

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I knew she would use her Ice field... she leads with Abamosnow and it's Hail ability

I lead with:

Golem

Sturdy

Rock Polish

Rollout

Earthquake

Stealth Rock

Again - Stealth Rock... it was just too soooooo good against Angie...

sadly Golem got defeated by Abamosnow without another move... but the work was done... the stage was almost prepared...

I followed up with:

Camerupt @Quick Claw

Solid Rock

Earth Power

Rock Slide

Earthquake

Lava Plume

Abamosnow was obviously faster and hit with Woodhammer... I followed up with Lava Plume to get rid of that pesky field... and OHKO that Abamosnow. Now the stage was prepared. Stealth Rocks on her side and no mor Ice-Field.

She followed up with Walrein, which I answered with Ampharos and it's Thunder Punch.

Then came Mamoswine, which I countered with Infernape and it's Close Combat.

Then she send out Froslass, which I countered with Mawile... why Mawile? SUCKER PUNCH! - poor Frosslass didn't even stand a chance...

Next was Aurorus... well I switched back to Infernape and let him handle it in Close Combat... Last was Glaceon... again Close Combat sealed the deal with one hit...

That was Angie... pretty damn easy... I think she never got to use her "Cold Truth"...