[Closed] Teambuilding Workshop by DestructiveSkitty

slant · May 5, 2015

i've been trying to get a team going with a firespam core since the past gen but never gotten it to work. can you make a team out of

Charizard @ Charizardite Y

Ability: Blaze

EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Timid Nature

- Fire Blast

- Solar Beam

- Focus Blast

- Roost

Heatran @ Choice Specs

EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Timid Nature

- Fire Blast

- Flamethrower

- Earth Power

- Flash Cannon

Chase · May 6, 2015

Sharpedo @ Sharpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Crunch
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Roost

Breloom @ Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Spore
- Bullet Seed
- Mach Punch
- Force Palm

I wanted to try and go for a little bit of a challenge and provide half of the team. This very much is a FWG-core with the premise being to clear the way for Mega-Sharpedo.

This is also an opportunity to learn a little bit how you build, so that I can apply some of it to myself...

Reignited'Light · May 8, 2015

I lied. I was going to make one team only for a person, but it's whatever at this point rofl
Slant and Hilda teams

So I gave Charizard a slightly different set. I believe a Modest nature with Flamethrower is more consistent than a Timid nature with Fire Blast, because who wants to miss every once in a while? Focus Blast..
Anyway, so I partnered Tyranitar so you can beat some Latios, Latias, bulky psychic mon. Also beats Talonflame, which is very annoying for your Fire spam core. Tentacruel and Hippowdon set up Hazards, while the former can spin them away from your field. Tentacruel also beats Clefable and some stall teams with Acid Spray, which comes in handy against Calm Mind users. Wobbuffet helps eliminate stall teams, so Tyranitar can switch in and Pursuit something for so much power. Nice squad.

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So I made a Hyper Offense team with this core. This team has all sorts of good matchups because of Breloom and Talonflame just crushing souls. Once the opponent is weakened, Sharpedo cleans up. I gave Sharpedo a Jolly nature, but Adamant works as well for more power. I just like the speed before any boosts. If Mega Sableye gives you problems, use a offensive stealth rock/swords dance garchomp with Lum Berry, and it should be better.

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Follow · May 8, 2015

Thanks for the amazing team, I peaked 1600 with it and all that. Anyways, here's a pokemon that is really rare in this metagame, I want to see how it can be put in some work in a solid team, thanks.

Glalie @ Glalitite

Ability: Inner Focus

Happiness: 0

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Jolly Nature

- Frustration

- Explosion

- Ice Shard

- Earthquake

Shadow Tack · May 9, 2015

./challenge

!data Challenge

Linoone @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pickup
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Belly Drum
- Gunk Shot
- Seed Bomb

relevant calcs(Spoilers broke)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 459-541 (152.4 - 179.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO(rekt)

252+ Atk Linoone Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Clefable: 170-200 (43.1 - 50.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery (Rip linoone)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Tyranitar: 356-420 (104.3 - 123.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO(rekt)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Latias: 417-492 (130.7 - 154.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO(rekt)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 459-541 (114.4 - 134.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO(rekt)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 505-595 (78.6 - 92.6%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock(destroyed)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Clefable: 406-478 (103 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO(vengeance is sweet)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 399-469 (113.6 - 133.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO(SHREKT)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 399-469 (96.3 - 113.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock(rekt even more)

252+ Atk Linoone Seed Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Quagsire: 204-244 (51.7 - 61.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery(

0 SpA Quagsire Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Linoone: 91-108 (30.5 - 36.2%) -- 47.5% chance to 3HKO)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gothitelle: 399-469 (141.9 - 166.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO(rekt)

+5 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Landorus-T: 261-307 (68.3 - 80.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery(rip linoone)

+6 252+ Atk Linoone Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 417-492 (130.7 - 154.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO(VENGEANCE)

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Edited May 9, 2015 by blasterman4

Kamina · May 9, 2015

Venomoth @ Focus Sash/black sludge

Ability: Wonder Skin

EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe

Timid Nature

- Quiver Dance

- Sleep Powder

- Baton Pass

- Substitute/bugbuzz

I really liked using your mew/mega ampharos team so I was wondering if you could make Venomoth work as well. Smogon classified it as BL but I had never seen this pokemon used. Apparently with wonder skin it can potentially avoid taunt and other status moves and it is the only quiver passer o:.

Reignited'Light · May 9, 2015

Rules are meant to be broken, so I'll just build regularly.
Alright, got some Hyper Offense squads for Glalie and Linoone and some Venomoth team rofl.

Nuke every single team with Explosion from Azelf and Glalie. Mega Sableye can probably be a bitch to deal with, so just make sure Glalie is healthy to use Explosion, and make sure Kyurem-Black is healthy as well. Or just slap Calm Mind on Latios instead of EQ.

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or

Yet again, another HO squad. Break everything with Diancie and Victini, then kill off everything with Breloom when stuff is weakened, and sweep with Linoone. If Landorus-Therian is a problem, you can always use Latios as a check+ground resist instead of Victini.

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Quiver Dance and Baton Pass into a threat, and sweep. Once sweeper dies, repeat until Venomoth is dead, but everything should be dead by the time the sweeping is over.

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Xiri · May 10, 2015

I've been having a lot of fun and success with the team you built for me Skitty - so please accept my extreme thanks for that.

...and we're allowed to request for more than one team?? Yes please!

I've been experimenting with Mega Sableye recently and would like to have a nice team that revolves around it!

Sableye @ Sablenite

Ability: Magic Guard (Prankster when non-Mega)

EVs: 248 HP / 124 Def / 136 SpD

Impish Nature

- Will-O-Wisp

- Knock Off

- Recover

- Shadow Sneak

Scizor @ Life Orb

Ability: Technician

EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def

Adamant Nature

- Swords Dance

- Bullet Punch

- Bug Bite

- Superpower

Reignited'Light · May 10, 2015

Today is the last day I'm building teams for this thread. If you want one last time done, post now. Closing this thread at 8 PM EST.

Azeria · May 10, 2015

Slowbro @ Slowbronite

Ability: Regenerator

EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA

Bold Nature

- Rest

- Calm Mind

- Sleep Talk

- Scald

I really like Mega Slowbro and I've been trying to make a good team with him so I'd like to see a team with him.

Etesian · May 10, 2015

Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Ice
- Memento

Absol @ Absolite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Play Rough

By the way, on the Porygon/Banette team, what could replace Skarmory to make the team more offensive? I'm having fun with the team, but it's a bit too slow for me...

Reignited'Light · May 10, 2015

So instead of replacing Skarm, we can make this team a somewhat ok Hyper Offense squad?

Skarmory @ Custap Berry

Ability: Sturdy

EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Jolly Nature

- Spikes

- Stealth Rock

- Iron Head

- Taunt

Garchomp @ Lum Berry

Ability: Rough Skin

EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Jolly Nature

- Swords Dance

- Earthquake

- Outrage

- Poison Jab

Dragonite can also replace Garchomp as well, but be careful of Stealth Rock. You can use Starmie instead of Keldeo to out this issue.

Starmie @ Life Orb

Ability: Analytic

EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Timid Nature

IVs: 29 HP / 0 Atk

- Hydro Pump

- Rapid Spin

- Ice Beam

- Psychic

Dragonite @ Weakness Policy

Ability: Multiscale

EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Adamant Nature

- Dragon Dance

- Extreme Speed

- Outrage

- Earthquake

I'll post the teams later tonight.

Reignited'Light · May 10, 2015

Ok, here are these teams right here.

Use Sableye to burn physical attackers and cripple sweepers with Foul Play. Also a nice Utility since Knock Off can cripple so many pokemon as well. The team is pretty balanced, imo. Just keep Heatran and Sableye alive to check Talonflame though.

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CM Slack Off and Two attacks>CroBro, but it’s just my preference. Use Tentacruel to toxic stall stuff so Mega Slowbro can set up Calm Minds safely. Everything else just gets rid of usual counters/checks to slowbro, like Tyranitar gets rid of lati, and Keldeo benefits from toxic spikes as well. Scarf Landorus is a great Pivot along with Jirachi since it goes into Tar and traps stuff. Amazing team.

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Team kinda weak to Bisharp, so I gave Latias HP Fighting with a Colbur berry, and it should be good. Let’s get some souls with Absol. Rotom-W and Lando-T provide a defensive backbone, while Heatran is a good revenge killer that kills fairys for Absol.

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NickCrash · May 10, 2015

Isn't the will-o-wisp/foul play combo a bit counter productive?

Reignited'Light · May 10, 2015

Burn doesn't take into account when you use Foul Play. Just the boosts and base attack, I believe.

Plus, Foul Play hits Talonflame and Zard X, which is nice.

Etesian · May 10, 2015

On 5/10/2015 at 7:31 PM, Reignited'Light said:
Burn doesn't take into account when you use Foul Play. Just the boosts and base attack, I believe.

Can confirm. It uses the foe's stat and boosts and the users burn/not-burn into account...for some reason.

Thanks for the team!

EDIT: By the way, what's the 88 Speed on Rotom for?

Edited May 10, 2015 by Almost a House

NickCrash · May 10, 2015

Alright, checked some sites. It seems that burn counts only for the user of foul play, which I find odd, but yeah Skitty is right. mea culpa

Reignited'Light · May 10, 2015

On 5/10/2015 at 7:37 PM, Almost a House said:
EDIT: By the way, what's the 88 Speed on Rotom for?

88 Speed outspeeds Jolly Crawdaunt and everything below, which doesn't have that much use, but it doesn't hurt to outspeed it. Also, I don't like speed ties with other Rotom-W.

Follow · May 10, 2015

Last request

Honchkrow @ Life Orb

Ability: Moxie

EVs: 64 Atk / 192 SpA / 252 Spe

Rash Nature

- Brave Bird

- Heat Wave

- Dark Pulse

- Sucker Punch

Mixed honchkrow is amazing.

Mienshao @ Life Orb

Ability: Regenerator

EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

Hasty Nature

- Fake Out

- High Jump Kick

- U-turn

- Hidden Power [ice]

And mienshao is there to wear down the opposing team so honchkrow can clean up. HP Ice is, of course, to lure landorus-t and gliscor

P.S. What's acid doing in that tentacruel?

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Reignited'Light · May 10, 2015

shit lol, it was supposed to be Acid Spray haha

Flynn · May 10, 2015

Latios @ Latiosite

Ability: Levitate

EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Timid Nature

- Draco Meteor

- Psyshock

- Hidden Power Fire

- Energy Ball

Jirachi @ Expert Belt

EVs: 132 Atk / 160 SpA / 216 Spe

Mild Nature

- Iron Head

- Icy Wind

- Hidden Power Ground

- Thunderbolt

I know both of them get butchered by Bisharp, but I'd love to see these two work efficiently on a team. They're awesome! I'm very open to seeing changes in move set and/or EVs but if anything, it'd be awesome to fit them into a balanced team not too stocked on either offense or defense.

Reignited'Light · May 10, 2015

Ok, here are these last two teams.

Honchkrow and Mienshao are great heavy offensive hitters. Beating up some Bisharp and Ferrothorn is pretty nice. Lando-T and Rotom-W pivot into either Honchkrow, mienshao, mega gardevoir, or scarf heatran. Since the team beats up Steel pokemon easily, I thought Mega Gardevoir would be beneficial, since it appreciates steel types to be removed.

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I don’t see the point in Mega Latios, so I gave it a Life Orb and made Lopunny a Mega instead. Life Orb Latios is also much more stronger than Mega Latios as well. Team is really offensive, so it breaks a lot of things. Jirachi is a great lure as well, so you’re able to pressure opponents because of that. I would use Thunderbolt>Energy Ball on Latios, but it’s just a personal preference. Keldeo and Raikou form a solid offensive core, and breaks stuff together.

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Done for the day. Thanks for the requests!

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