deforever93 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 So,i've played Rejuvenation (because of shofu gameplay),and in a week i finished it (Angie beaten). After,i've also completed all the help center quests in Gearen,kakori,golden leaf and kristeline(?),so now im down to preparing the team for the next patch and exploring "rock-climb" areas. (I've also have to figure out the spiritomb event,even tho i dont think i will use him,since i've got a noice Inkay from the last mission in kristeline) This is the team i've ended the game: [shiny Serperior] | [55][Miracle seed][Contrary][bashful]- Leafstorm (Obtained after game complete using reverse candies after lvl hit)- Cut- Giga Drain- Leech Seed [Torkhoal] | [55][Hold Item][White Smoke][serious]- Flamethrower- Flamewheel- Amnesia- Curse [Vanilluxe] | [55][ice Plate][ice Body][ice Body]- Mirror Coat- Willow- Ice Beam- Hail [swoobat] | [49] [Twisted Spoon][unawere][Modest]- Attract- Calm Mind- Psychic- Air Slash Last pokemon was a random HM slave. (Wouldn't have mind picked up a hitmontop,but since my tyrogue got more attack than defense,there's not much medicine that raise stats,i will ended up with an hitmonlee) Now,i wanna say the game is really nice,the plot twist is good and intruguing,i can definetively see potential in it,but there's some aspect that have given me tremendous "boppin'-nerves". For example,there's some battles that you have really depend on RNG and hax ,because there's literally no other ways. An example? Narcissa battle. Had to soft reset everytime till i get the opponet attracted with my swoobat attract and hop'd for a stun of 3 consecutive turns,wich happend like after 1 hour. Fortunally my Murkrow/Honchkrow definetively helped with pursuit dealing enuff damage. Also had to stall out the rotom with servine/serperior because of that para/fusion. Also for that dusclops,i had to set up amnesia's/cursed body with thorkoal,because 5/6 of my team were killed by nasty plot mismagius. But this is not the only one battle i had large struggle with. Battling ren+(other girl wich i dont remember name) at volcano laboratory? (the one were u fight shadow mew2) Drought Ninetales+Houndoom flashfire? >KEK Had to raise my Vanillish till level gap for Mirror coat and soft reset everytime till ninetales flamethrowere'd and could retaliate (ofc this happend 1 hour and half later,cuz of Houndoom) Other battles were not that particulary difficult,but had to rely on my torkhoal setting up heavily in most of "boss-battles" (Really,this Torkhoal was the anchor of salvation. Without him,i could literally not pass the carnivine on the forest when Nim got stoned,and probabily got stucked there.It really did the job of 3/5 of my whole team..) Now you can obivious say "why you dont build a better team?" "u aint good trainer,go retire" and all of this. BUT you literally cannot pretend to send players w/booty stats pokes,battling competitive npc such Life-orb'd Greninja? HELLOOO??? I literally don't find it fair. You should totally change wild pokemons and give many different one to choose from,or make pokemon-encounters that have decent stats at least.. Thats so far my impression to the game and i know that's develop. is at beginning but you know..better be honest and try to help,don't ya think? So,this what i would like to expect on the next versions of Rejuvenation: - Balance on "boss-battles" - Literally HALVE at least,the depending on battles from RNG in certain situations like Narcissa gym battle - Having a more wide open choice of wild pokimans - Having a system or stable bulletin/help center for side requests,that change and vary everyday - More prizes at the casino After finishing to prepare my team,i will go and do a last re-cap of the whole map finding bugs and other errors to help the fixing. I also want to apologize,because i dont even know if this is the right section,since in never posted on reborn forums (tho im registered for awhile) , and also my poorely english skills.. At last,but no least,thanks to the creator of Rejuvenation for giving me fun time,i will be looking forward to expect a nicely developed game. Keep the good work dude! :feelsgd: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 A few notes of interest, there is an adjustable difficulty for this game, any boss battle as long as you prepare does not require RNG to win, the pokemon you can get before each boss battle all have the potential to bring these opponents to ruin, if someone said 'u aint a good trainer, retire' this would not be constructive or useful in the slightest and such comments should very much be ignored, however there is a degree of some skill needed and understanding IVs/EVs certainly helps but isn't required it just makes it a lot easier in some cases, playing with a fixed team will also bring a degree of difficulty and it's a suggestion to have multiple pokemon around your main team level as you can switch in pokemon from the pc to replace pokemn that fall behind in ability at certain areas and reintroduce them where they may be useful, again not required just helps immensely.On a final note, understanding the weaknesses and stats of the pokemon you are facing is an effective way of bringing it down and making good use of stat enhancement moves during battle is useful, I can see from your team you are probably aware of this but I also see a full set of SP Atk pokemon, my recommendation is to get a physical pokemon for your team to balance it out (not entirely sure about the Torkoal or what it is for your team, the moveset tells me could be Physical, Special or SP Def Tank).Hope this helps in any way at all and that you will enjoy future releases of Pokemon Rejuvanation, Boss Battles for me wouldn't be the same without that feeling of difficulty and the sigh of relief when you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deforever93 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) A few notes of interest, there is an adjustable difficulty for this game, any boss battle as long as you prepare does not require RNG to win, the pokemon you can get before each boss battle all have the potential to bring these opponents to ruin, if someone said 'u aint a good trainer, retire' this would not be constructive or useful in the slightest and such comments should very much be ignored, however there is a degree of some skill needed and understanding IVs/EVs certainly helps but isn't required it just makes it a lot easier in some cases, playing with a fixed team will also bring a degree of difficulty and it's a suggestion to have multiple pokemon around your main team level as you can switch in pokemon from the pc to replace pokemn that fall behind in ability at certain areas and reintroduce them where they may be useful, again not required just helps immensely. On a final note, understanding the weaknesses and stats of the pokemon you are facing is an effective way of bringing it down and making good use of stat enhancement moves during battle is useful, I can see from your team you are probably aware of this but I also see a full set of SP Atk pokemon, my recommendation is to get a physical pokemon for your team to balance it out (not entirely sure about the Torkoal or what it is for your team, the moveset tells me could be Physical, Special or SP Def Tank). Hope this helps in any way at all and that you will enjoy future releases of Pokemon Rejuvanation, Boss Battles for me wouldn't be the same without that feeling of difficulty and the sigh of relief when you win. For the facts of understanding evs/ivs,team balancing i know the whole thing,i play competitive since 2 years. At gaeren i've only seen hp and speed (?) if i remember right on the ev training rooms. Plus i already know,if i have to ev train my pokes w/ wilde,i'd get to travel from sides to side part of the map imo. Regarding my team,i was aware that i've got plenti of sp.atk mons,but those were literally the only one valuable pokes to training,without booty stats. (you literally get 2 shotted in every gym( boss battle with neutral damage if your stats are bad). Forgot to add in my 1st post my Honchkrow stats,wich is my 2nd pshisycal attacker,besides torkhoal wich is a mix set up mon unfortunally..(and i say unfortunally,because like i mentioned before,i had to rely heavly on torkhoal setting up for both defenses..) Honchkrow lvl 55 Quirky Quick claw -Wing attack -Nasty Plot -Pursuit (now replaced w/ night slash) -Night shade I also would like to point out: "any boss battle as long as you prepare does not require RNG to win" This is not entirely true. And i explained why in my 1st post.. "have multiple pokes on your team" Yeah? And what pokes? Bibarels? Nidorinos? Wrumples? Or Ekans? All pokes that due to their "bulkyness" get shotted everytime. Like i said,they should give a more variety on wild pokes to choose from. An example? Munna/Solosis/Ralts/Slowpoke/Baltoy/Bronzor, instead of usless late-game Swoobat? Would surely have helped out. Making my apologiez again,because im really throwing up with the forum options,wich i dont know how to use. Im sorry Edited May 21, 2015 by deforever93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I have read the post, however it does not make it entirely clear to me within the mass writing where it is exactly you are trying to tell me it's RNG required for whatever reason, again there is a difficulty you can adjust and it's possible you aren't considering certain pokemon due to them not looking appealing, you will often find that pokemon mostly ignored in the games can be very useful and it is through Pokémon Reborn and Pokémon Rejuvanation these pokemon have finally found themselves in people's teams.I for one never really focused on IVs or EVs when building my team and I didn't overlook a pokemon if it didn't look appealing I simply considered will it be helpful in this area? what advantages does it have and disadvantages, it is through this style of play that I made it through each boss battle without RNG reliance.Basically try not to be picky about pokemon and often enough if you are struggling with a boss battle you can easily post your team details here on the forums in the respective category where the community can advise you on how to adjust your team or improve it or what they would recommend you do to beat the boss fight your struggling with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deforever93 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 I have read the post, however it does not make it entirely clear to me within the mass writing where it is exactly you are trying to tell me it's RNG required for whatever reason, again there is a difficulty you can adjust and it's possible you aren't considering certain pokemon due to them not looking appealing, you will often find that pokemon mostly ignored in the games can be very useful and it is through Pokémon Reborn and Pokémon Rejuvanation these pokemon have finally found themselves in people's teams. I for one never really focused on IVs or EVs when building my team and I didn't overlook a pokemon if it didn't look appealing I simply considered will it be helpful in this area? what advantages does it have and disadvantages, it is through this style of play that I made it through each boss battle without RNG reliance. Basically try not to be picky about pokemon and often enough if you are struggling with a boss battle you can easily post your team details here on the forums in the respective category where the community can advise you on how to adjust your team or improve it or what they would recommend you do to beat the boss fight your struggling with. "tell me it's RNG required for whatever reason" For the 3rd time,Narcissa gym battle is one of these. " I didn't overlook a pokemon if it didn't look appealing I simply considered will it be helpful in this area" I do the same. But you can't literally tell me,that a Swoobat/Bibarel is nice on mid/late story,or vs op pokes like the one i mentioned before. (life orb greninja,drought ninetales,and such). It happend that i also like using pokes that normally no one uses (like Masquerain,Vespiquen,wich are literally one of my favourites). Im not picky about the pokemon choices,but i really dont see the point on,how fragile pokes can survive on late game story even with ev training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Um... there are plenty of good Pokemon to choose from. Look here: http://www.pokemonreborn.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14319 Even if some are frail, they are fast enough to get some good damage. Also, EVs and IVs are unnecessary. They do help, but they don't determine the winner of a battle. As for the Help Center, that would take way too long, and there's going to be different Help Centers in different places. For the Casino, that's the normal amount of prizes you should be able to get... And Narcissa was very easy imo. No hax needed. Just some fast enough Ghost types, with the boost of Ghost moves destroying her. In addition, a safer choice would be a Dark type. Even Pyrrhon's video shows how easy Intense Narcissa is. Three tries isn't that many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deforever93 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 I see,i see,but everyone have different playstyles and "tastes" on pokemon choices. Like,i would prefer 1000 times a Drowzee than a swoobat. It really still lacks on pokemon choices as my point of view. At this rate,pokemon teams will look the same,instead of a large variety of types or strategies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developers Jan Posted May 21, 2015 Developers Share Posted May 21, 2015 I appreciate your criticism. I'll definitely consider what you have to say although, the lack of Pokemon is part of the design. Even then there are actually quite a lot of good Pokemon you can pick up(Starters, Breloom, OU) . You just have to go out of your way to find them. There's also location guide so you don't have to go that out of the way. Nevertheless, I will start making more Pokemon available from the beginning to give more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deforever93 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 I appreciate your criticism. I'll definitely consider what you have to say although, the lack of Pokemon is part of the design. Even then there are actually quite a lot of good Pokemon you can pick up(Starters, Breloom, OU) . You just have to go out of your way to find them. There's also location guide so you don't have to go that out of the way. Nevertheless, I will start making more Pokemon available from the beginning to give more options. Please don't take me as the guy crying because of "that" motivation. I just pointed that more pokemon too chose,improves more strategies and a more team varieties..Also i think,it will be more enjoyable,but none at least,the game is nice,so..Just maybe consider my idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developers Jan Posted May 21, 2015 Developers Share Posted May 21, 2015 Please don't take me as the guy crying because of "that" motivation. I just pointed that more pokemon too chose,improves more strategies and a more team varieties..Also i think,it will be more enjoyable,but none at least,the game is nice,so..Just maybe consider my idea Don't worry I don't take you for that guy, and if it came out that way, sorry! I shall definitely consider your idea for sure. After all this whole game is just one big WIP. haha. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deforever93 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Don't worry I don't take you for that guy, and if it came out that way, sorry! I shall definitely consider your idea for sure. After all this whole game is just one big WIP. haha. Thank you! No problem,im the one who have to thanks you for developing this game and be this kind to the community (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peepeepoopoo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) I see,i see,but everyone have different playstyles and "tastes" on pokemon choices. Like,i would prefer 1000 times a Drowzee than a swoobat. It really still lacks on pokemon choices as my point of view. At this rate,pokemon teams will look the same,instead of a large variety of types or strategies.. Funny story, there are Drowzee on that route with the pink grass/trees (the one where you first meet Nim, connecting Gearen city to Amethyst cave). Anyway, Reborn and games that take after/are inspired by Reborn force you to go out of your play style/comfort zone. You need to utilise the Pokemon available to you in order to win. That's what I like about these fan games, they force you to use Pokemon that you would not normally use. Edited May 21, 2015 by vsx2000goton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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