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  On 6/9/2015 at 4:10 AM, Ice Cream Sand Witch said:

I need help getting Corey's Skuntank.

I'm assuming it's past that one strength boulder on the icy tiles. But I can't really think of how to get past it. Option 1: I push from Ametrine side. The boulder is moved to the left, out of the way of the icy tiles and not blocking the path forward. But I'd need to be on the Citrine side to actually take that path. Option 2: I push from Citrine side. The boulder is pushed forward, taking up the tile that goes left and preventing access. Also, it takes me forever to even find where this boulder is on Citrine side.

Clearly there's something obvious here that I'm overlooking or don't know about.

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can I just clarify how much I love the changes they made on the Pokemon Center?

they even changed the jingle tune~ <3

and also, I noticed Serra's gym...changed a /lot/ in my most recent playthrough

in Episode 14 it looked like this:

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and in Episode 15, it looks like THIS

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you still battle Benett, but in the 3rd room of the gym.

the biggest change however, is the conversation dialogue between Benett and El.

Dunno if that's relevant or not.

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  On 6/4/2015 at 2:49 AM, ShadowStar77 said:

Yeah Magnezone kinda poops all over Ciel's team. Especially if it has Magnet Rise.

Rotom Wash also completely destroys her team, especially afte you can get pain split for him at the circus, so he can sustain himself

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This episode was great. I had trouble with the puzzle though, but Titania was epicly vengeful. Those 3 back to back fights would have been impossible without help, and I beat Ciel without much trouble thanks to Walrein, Emolga, Ampharos, Leavanny and Mamoswine. I can't wait to go back to reborn though.

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I just finished the part of the episode with the WTC, and returned to Agate Circus to swap out some team members before heading to the Mansion. I was hoping to train some new guys back at the Grand Hall, but when I try to go through the Agate City Gates, the two police officers are blocking the path. Is that a bug?

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  On 6/9/2015 at 6:02 PM, Oracle said:

I just finished the part of the episode with the WTC, and returned to Agate Circus to swap out some team members before heading to the Mansion. I was hoping to train some new guys back at the Grand Hall, but when I try to go through the Agate City Gates, the two police officers are blocking the path. Is that a bug?

Story wise, we're supposed to be locked out of the rest of the Reborn region due to not being able to get through Agate City. The other areas aren't supposed to be accessible, but they are when you complete the episode due to the long wait times between episode releases.

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  On 6/9/2015 at 6:02 PM, Oracle said:

I just finished the part of the episode with the WTC, and returned to Agate Circus to swap out some team members before heading to the Mansion. I was hoping to train some new guys back at the Grand Hall, but when I try to go through the Agate City Gates, the two police officers are blocking the path. Is that a bug?

Note what mash said, and also note that there's a new rebattle-able clown NPC in the Agate Circus that fills the same role as the Grand Hall trainers. He's located near the main tent, to the right of the person that explains Agate Circus' history.

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If the elemental plates that we got from mining would get some role (such as collecting all 18 of them), cause...

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  On 6/10/2015 at 5:07 AM, Red_Chaos said:
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plz tell me this isn't Corey part 2

probably someone Radomus knew...?

  On 6/10/2015 at 12:53 AM, ShadowStar77 said:

Yo what is Bennet and El's Dialogue. I am intrigued~

I didn't get screenshots I thought they added this way before Episode 15 ;-;

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Radomus having a dead wife is weird, but it makes sense as to why he is alone. A person like him would have met someone for them in their time. Obviously he did meet someone, this Zina. Lets take it a step further shall we? Radomus has a team meteor outfit. How would he get his hands on that? Maybe he stole it? Or maybe he was once a part of team meteor. It would explain how El knows him and why he describes him as a swine. Let's take it another step further. Assuming Radomus and his wife had kids, and by also assuming his kids were Anna and Noel, this would explain how Sirius knew Annas father. If Anna's father is Radomus and he used to be in team meteor, well there you go. Maybe when Radomus left they killed his wife and he left his two children at the orphanage. Idk, there isn't a whole lot to support the Radomus father theory here. However it is nice speculation. You never know what could happen in the world of Reborn.

Or y'know, maybe Radomus is still apart of team meteor and that's why he took the amethyst bracelet or whatever it is. That wouldn't explain why El hates him however as then they would be on the same side... hmmm weird.

So what could it possibly mean? Find out next time, on dragonball Z... Sirius is going to have a lot of enemies by the end of this game xD

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  On 6/10/2015 at 5:53 AM, Pyrrhon said:

Radomus having a dead wife is weird, but it makes sense as to why he is alone. A person like him would have met someone for them in their time. Obviously he did meet someone, this Zina. Lets take it a step further shall we? Radomus has a team meteor outfit. How would he get his hands on that? Maybe he stole it? Or maybe he was once a part of team meteor. It would explain how El knows him and why he describes him as a swine. Let's take it another step further. Assuming Radomus and his wife had kids, and by also assuming his kids were Anna and Noel, this would explain how Sirius knew Annas father. If Anna's father is Radomus and he used to be in team meteor, well there you go. Maybe when Radomus left they killed his wife and he left his two children at the orphanage. Idk, there isn't a whole lot to support the Radomus father theory here. However it is nice speculation. You never know what could happen in the world of Reborn.

Or y'know, maybe Radomus is still apart of team meteor and that's why he took the amethyst bracelet or whatever it is. That wouldn't explain why El hates him however as then they would be on the same side... hmmm weird.

So what could it possibly mean? Find out next time, on dragonball Z... Sirius is going to have a lot of enemies by the end of this game xD

I would rather think the death of his wife is the cause of his link with Meteors and not the consequence. Like Simon, he may have been destroyed by his wife's death and then heard about people saying she could be back to life in a new world, so he joined them. But Radomus is not blind and easy to manipulate like Simon, and he don't think the world in black and white like El. He saw what Meteors really are and betrayed them or at least left them, probably after a strong dispute with El about his fanatism.

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Well, if you didn't go back to a certain place after encountering a certain Skuntank this will be a spoiler:

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  On 6/10/2015 at 8:34 AM, Imperial said:

I would rather think the death of his wife is the cause of his link with Meteors and not the consequence. Like Simon, he may have been destroyed by his wife's death and then heard about people saying she could be back to life in a new world, so he joined them. But Radomus is not blind and easy to manipulate like Simon, and he don't think the world in black and white like El. He saw what Meteors really are and betrayed them or at least left them, probably after a strong dispute with El about his fanatism.

I agree with that, we've seen people join hoping for a miracle, then leave when they realize it's impossible. Radomus could've just been the first to leave.

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I hope Victoria and Cal are in the next episode because I wanna see if she's forgiven him. Is it weird how I can imagine Julia's gym with even more banners and stuff due to the renovations of Reborn City- gyms deserve love too. I hope we get some scenario where the Grand Hall is overrun by Meteor and you need to get keys in different places (Silph Co, and Devon). I also have a feeling that Aya may make a brief appearance in the next episode and we'll be facing Adrienn as xe is the only leader left in the city that we have yet to face. I hope we get to have a battle against Victoria in this episode too, maybe with her having a Mega Gallade? (Reasoning for having the mega item could either be something Kiki left for her or Cal giving it to her as a gift)

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  On 6/10/2015 at 6:33 PM, amazingmagicsam said:

I hope Victoria and Cal are in the next episode because I wanna see if she's forgiven him. Is it weird how I can imagine Julia's gym with even more banners and stuff due to the renovations of Reborn City- gyms deserve love too. I hope we get some scenario where the Grand Hall is overrun by Meteor and you need to get keys in different places (Silph Co, and Devon). I also have a feeling that Aya may make a brief appearance in the next episode and we'll be facing Adrienn as xe is the only leader left in the city that we have yet to face. I hope we get to have a battle against Victoria in this episode too, maybe with her having a Mega Gallade? (Reasoning for having the mega item could either be something Kiki left for her or Cal giving it to her as a gift)

Yeah. I can see both appearing. That is if Cal isn't in Calcenon. Did he say he was going there?

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There is also something that raises a question for me: in the mansion (or in the treatment plant, I'm not entirely sure), it is clearly stated that Solaris is the leader of Team Meteor. So if that's the case...then what is Lin?
We know that before Lin, the approach of Team Meteor wasn't aggressive and their purpose was slightly different, so my guess is that Lin uses them for her own goals...
In that vein, does anyone know EXACTLY what Team Meteor plans to do (or what they're puppeteered in (if that's a word))? Sure it's cleansing the city (by destoying it for the most, but that's not necessary), and they want to use the Citae's (and what lies within) power, but there's no explanation in what exactly would happen...

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