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I didn't battle Mr. Bigglesworth because I saw a video of someone battling him and he just wanted a hug and I'd feel bad for beating him up :(

Well the first time I met Mr. Biggles was back in Episode VII's release and I had no idea what was down in this tunnel. My reaction was priceless because I didn't save.

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sooo, any speculation as to a release date for this episode? haha I have read through a lot of this topic and way in the beginning people were speculating release around early October. Seeing as the ep is at 30% completion we can sadly laugh at that guess

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sooo, any speculation as to a release date for this episode? haha I have read through a lot of this topic and way in the beginning people were speculating release around early October. Seeing as the ep is at 30% completion we can sadly laugh at that guess

Never. If I had to give an estimate it'd range from today and 20XX. (But seriously things have happened so just be patient as release dates are really hard to speculate at this point in time).

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sooo, any speculation as to a release date for this episode? haha I have read through a lot of this topic and way in the beginning people were speculating release around early October. Seeing as the ep is at 30% completion we can sadly laugh at that guess

it's mainly because of animations that the release is so far but like Commander said progress is being made so just wait (i can wait 10 years to get a good episode)

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I didn't battle Mr. Bigglesworth because I saw a video of someone battling him and he just wanted a hug and I'd feel bad for beating him up :(

Unfortunately for me Mr. Bigglesworth was in my way for a Gallade and the cause of the waste so I had to put him down. :(

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Never. If I had to give an estimate it'd range from today and 20XX. (But seriously things have happened so just be patient as release dates are really hard to speculate at this point in time).

Haha no I know, I am sorry if I sound impatient in a bad way.

I am an impatient person,BUT. This game is rivetting, excellent if I do say so. My impatience stems from the fact that the game already has such an astounding an in depth storyline that I can barely contain myself with the evergrowing anticipation.

I think I may just restart my game or try oe of those mono type/mono gen challenges. Th game was incredibly tough this first time round and ding something like that may just make things a little more interesting.

Hey I may even give your hardcore mod a try if I feel brave enough

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That's really all you can do when waiting for something. Just find another thing to do in order to occupy your time. It's been almost 5 months, but man a lot of crap has happened. Like the loss of a developer, Ame was sick for a while, and also the dev team has to mop up the BS that the previous Episodes have made, just before making the new one. You need to understand these things are not at all perfect, or else we wouldn't have a Bug Reporting Thread.

Just give it time. It will come.

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Haha no I know, I am sorry if I sound impatient in a bad way.

I am an impatient person,BUT. This game is rivetting, excellent if I do say so. My impatience stems from the fact that the game already has such an astounding an in depth storyline that I can barely contain myself with the evergrowing anticipation.

I think I may just restart my game or try oe of those mono type/mono gen challenges. Th game was incredibly tough this first time round and ding something like that may just make things a little more interesting.

Hey I may even give your hardcore mod a try if I feel brave enough

I suggest a monogen. Since you are impatient (so am I) I'll assume you dislike grinding as much as I do, and monotypes tend to involve a lot because it may take a while for you to have a full team. Monogens, however, tendo to give you a lot of options early on already (I finishe a II gen and am playing a IV gen, both of them I already had at least 5 mons before Julia) and you need to grind a lot less.

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Ame actually has a mad respect to the point of fixation for passive one-sided walls.

Probably because I play stall tbh :/

But I don't think either of those are bad Pokemon (there are certainly others on the list I consider to be worse luck, which is okay). However, some Pokemon have been held off for availability just so there's new species in the wild in future areas when exploring. Pokemon that tend to be higher tier lists got shoved to the back (Jellicent's fairly low now, but availability was planned during gen 5 when it was OU)

Speaking of Pokemon speculation, of the bits in Reborn that I really dislike, and is also a strong indicator about how Ms. Liddell views things, is not separating NFE mons from their final forms. And I'm talking about deployable NFE Pokemon that get no love just because of their placement. Magmar and Electabuzz would be really nice to have earlier than Calcenon, by the time we reach them I guess that they aren't up to stuff to justify a team spot.

Another consideration is Pokemon within their own types. Electivire is pretty much one of the best (or at least, most popular) Electric types in the game. I don't want to make it particularly early, and then have it shove out other options, for example.

I didn't read through the descriptions for everything but wow, the game ended up being a lot different than what's written there.

Yeah, don't take that thread as anything meaningful. I was just writing descriptions for parts of the map for fun when I drew it. I wasn't planning on actually making the game at the time.

it's mainly because of animations that the release is so far but like Commander said progress is being made so just wait (i can wait 10 years to get a good episode)

It's mainly because of the animations that it's -not-. I spent a solid two months (maybe more? idk) on just those, and while the team is doing well now, it still takes time for me to review things.

That's really all you can do when waiting for something. Just find another thing to do in order to occupy your time. It's been almost 5 months, but man a lot of crap has happened. Like the loss of a developer, Ame was sick for a while, and also the dev team has to mop up the BS that the previous Episodes have made, just before making the new one.

There certainly have been set-backs, but honestly, none of those things are the major factor. It's really just that there's so much to do.

My to-do list for this episode of the game is currently 550+ lines long. Some of those are quick, some take a few days... others weeks. And a lot of that is not even making new content so much as fixing/polishing existing things or making changes that ought to have been done a long time ago (animations, AI, windows/walls, etc).

Anyway, speaking of those, I'm bad at progress updates.

By now all of the field graphics have been created (remember that one I said was H E L L O N A S T I C K to do? I ended up redoing it. Five times), I'm done with all the windowskins, and I've gotten through a solid chunk of the wallpapers. Here's a few of the window themes:

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Wow, window skin 25 seems fresh. I'm gonna use that all the time when E16 comes out

Also, sneak peeks of the wallpapers? I think i'm not the only one that is curious to what they are. If you don't wanna spoil too much just show us a corner of it :3

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I'll post the wallpapers once I've got them -all- finished

How are you doing healthwise? I hope you're feeling better!

Hopeful speculation- your being bad at progress updates couldn't possibly mean that we're actually further than 30%? Pretty please?

Not bad. I still feel some pain from time-to-time but it's usually not enough to stop me from doing things.

Can't say that we are past 30 though, I've more or less kept up with that much when I hit progress milestones.

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I'd kind of like seeing crystals similar to the crystal plug we recieve in the game where each corner is a different colored gem sticking out. I forget which RPG I played did something like that, but it looked really cool.

Well we know what wallpaper I'm using. I really honestly like the look of them. In the official games, I never really cared for them that much, but these look really good.

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Probably because I play stall tbh :/

But I don't think either of those are bad Pokemon (there are certainly others on the list I consider to be worse luck, which is okay). However, some Pokemon have been held off for availability just so there's new species in the wild in future areas when exploring. Pokemon that tend to be higher tier lists got shoved to the back (Jellicent's fairly low now, but availability was planned during gen 5 when it was OU)

Another consideration is Pokemon within their own types. Electivire is pretty much one of the best (or at least, most popular) Electric types in the game. I don't want to make it particularly early, and then have it shove out other options, for example.

Ame, I think you missed the point about NFE Pokemon: I'm not talking about Electivire and co., I'm talking about Electabuzzzzzzz, Magmar, Gligar, Sneazel etc. All these things got their final evo in 4th gen, long after their introduction. They need very specific items to evolve. My point is: Their evolution is unobtainable anyway, so why not give them a chance to get used in their Not Fully Evolved form? Why keep out some really nice Pokemon from the first two gens when the point is actually to keep out only their latest, later-gen evolutions? Would you axe Murkrow from Lapis because of Honchkrow being too good for Shelly and Kiki or something? Would Misdreavus break the early game? Would Magmar and Electabuzz sweep Samson, Charlotte, Terra and Ciel, or even Rad or Luna?

As of the walls, you know better than that and you're just too hard-headed to actually admit it: metagame viability =/= in-game viability. Jellicent's good points are its gread SpD, the typing and ability allowing it to switch freely ino Normal, Fighting, Water moves, and the easy clicking of the Scald button and the Recover button. Guess what, that's mostly useless in the game. We have shift batle style, we have healing items, we don't have Scald. Mandibuzz: it's good because it stopped any physical sweepers with Foul Play, removed hazards and had Roost for recovery. And it doesn't even get Foul Play in Reborn, it needs a tutor. Etc etc etc etc. And we also lack the TM for Toxic, which is an important part of stalling things out.

You know all of that. Come on. Just make a small lake with purple water in the wasteland or the grotto and have Frillish, Inkay and stuff like that beimg fishable there.

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More than the future awesome animations and music, I'm looking forward to more Pokemon that would be available. Is that bad? :P

I like the storylines that make the game progress. /).(\ Events make it part of that.

Whee whee whee conspiracy theories! :wub:

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More than the future awesome animations and music, I'm looking forward to more Pokemon that would be available. Is that bad? :P

I like the storylines that make the game progress. /).(\ Events make it part of that.

Whee whee whee conspiracy theories! :wub:

I doubt we'll see too many new Pokemon in episode 16. I don't think that a lot of different wild Pokemon will just suddenly pop up in Reborn City so soon after we left it. But I guess we'll see when we actually(canonically) go back there.

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I doubt we'll see too many new Pokemon in episode 16. I don't think that a lot of different wild Pokemon will just suddenly pop up in Reborn City so soon after we left it. But I guess we'll see when we actually(canonically) go back there.

I'd actually counter this statement entirely. It is stated at the beginning of the game that it's largely because of waste and pollution in Reborn City that Pokemon don't want to live there, so if Adrienn cleaned it up then I'm sure there will potentially be some new Pokemon in Reborn.

That being said, I think the bulk of the available Pokemon are going to be available in massive sidequests. I'd predict Oshawott being available in the Coral Ward shack (where Cain got his), Bulbasaur/Snivy exploring the Malchous/Rhodocrine Forests, Shellder/Tentacool/Slowpoke/Frillish/Staryu available via Super Rod (probably in E16, not definite), Pinsir/Heracross (the one you didn't pick) available in Aventurine Forest, as well as Scyther, Azurill, Shroomish, Togepi, Drilbur, Axew, and Vullaby being available in the city somehow. I would also bet on maybe one or two of the pseudo-legendaries to become available, probably Dratini or Larvesta.

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I'd actually counter this statement entirely. It is stated at the beginning of the game that it's largely because of waste and pollution in Reborn City that Pokemon don't want to live there, so if Adrienn cleaned it up then I'm sure there will potentially be some new Pokemon in Reborn.

That being said, I think the bulk of the available Pokemon are going to be available in massive sidequests. I'd predict Oshawott being available in the Coral Ward shack (where Cain got his), Bulbasaur/Snivy exploring the Malchous/Rhodocrine Forests, Shellder/Tentacool/Slowpoke/Frillish/Staryu available via Super Rod (probably in E16, not definite), Pinsir/Heracross (the one you didn't pick) available in Aventurine Forest, as well as Scyther, Azurill, Shroomish, Togepi, Drilbur, Axew, and Vullaby being available in the city somehow. I would also bet on maybe one or two of the pseudo-legendaries to become available, probably Dratini or Larvesta.

I said "I doubt we'll see too many new Pokemon". Not "I don't think we'll be seeing any new pokemon at all". Admittedly, I kinda forgot about the other areas of the game, and was just thinking about Reborn City, so I'll give you that.

If we were talking about a gap of a few weeks or months between the events of Adrienn going off to fix up the city and us actually going back to the city, sure I'd believe it. But keep in mind that Titania was trapped down in the Water Treatment Plant for most the the time after we went through Agate, without any food, and she was still able to get up and murder some cultists by the time the protagonist gets back to her. So, Titania's likely been trapped down there for a few days. I doubt anyone could clean up a huge place like Reborn City in less than a week. Even with Florinia's assistance, and Julia's... "help".

I can understand getting new pokemon from events, like the starters, but I personally don't think we'll be seeing a lot more wild pokemon in Reborn City, because the pollution would either only have been cleaned up recently, or probably is still being cleaned by the time we get back there(there's also the lake that hasn't been getting cleaned up for a good chunk of the protagonists absence, because of a PULSE Swalot).

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