Odybld Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The badges are changed in order in the last few eps, but once Purrhon had dug out a really old version that has been right for every badge until now. So that one has great chances to be right. I'll dig it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemia Chan Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Since we get a TM after when we beat each gym leader, what do you think will be the TMs we'll get next? The most likely ones I think we'll get is Dazzling Gleam from Adrienn, Rock Tomb or Rock Slide from Hardy, Flash Cannon from Titania, Scald from Amaria; and Dragon Claw or Tail from Saphira. With that said, I wish we could already kick Amaria and Adrienn's especially Amaria's but already so that I could already spam spam spam SPAM!!! Scald all day long. But that would make me a no-brainer so I guess She'll delay that battle as far as she can. 36% but still a lot of work, I hope they're doing fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Since we get a TM after when we beat each gym leader, what do you think will be the TMs we'll get next? The most likely ones I think we'll get is Dazzling Gleam from Adrienn, Rock Tomb or Rock Slide from Hardy, Flash Cannon from Titania, Scald from Amaria; and Dragon Claw or Tail from Saphira. With that said, I wish we could already kick Amaria and Adrienn's especially Amaria's but already so that I could already spam spam spam SPAM!!! Scald all day long. But that would make me a no-brainer so I guess She'll delay that battle as far as she can. 36% but still a lot of work, I hope they're doing fine. We actually can get Rock Tomb already, so cross your fingers for Rock Slide~ Anyway, yeah, that sounds about right. The end isn't too far; good TMs have to be given to us at some point soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'm still expecting something weird from Titania: Steel Wing. Her ace is Scizor, there's a field that raises the BP threshold of moves boosted by Technician and Ame loves doing some wild stuff with TMs (see Bullshit, ehm, Bulldoze). Scald and Dazzling Gleam are the only candidates of their respective types, and we got the three trolly options for Rock in E15 (Rock Tomb, Sandstorm, Rock Polish). Allthough I can't see Ame giving us Dragon Tail because Ame loves weird defensive shtick and considers them too precious to give out. We just got Roar anyway. Oh and at least Steel isn't Gyro Ball, we;ve cleared that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenOneRaisedGenY Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) most of the late-game gym leaders seem to give good tms and I expect that trend to continue. Flamethrower is one of the best ones, "bullshit" is viable in doubles battles, and acrobatics is a powerful and versatile flying move. Edited December 16, 2015 by GenOneRaisedGenY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well Terra herself calls it bullshit and I'm inclined to agree. It's straight up awfully weak speed control. Nobody's exactly excited about Icy Wind and Electroweb, and these things are available much earlier, at 7th Street. Yes we get better moves now, but Ame is still the huge wild card known as Ame. Acrobatics is great without an Item (which hurts, let's be real, there's a risk-reward with this move), but versatile? Anyway, the TMs we expect aren't leader TMs anymore, and the one TM of a leader that can be an issue in the fight will be Scaldspam. Oh the burns. Gleam, Cannon/Wing, Slide/Edge, Dragon Claw won't be issues. The other many TMs tho are trickier. I'll get to write a pm to Ame as the resident item placement expert about them sometime, examining where the weaker things can be put in retrospectively. That and the level curve. But I is lazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenOneRaisedGenY Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well Terra herself calls it bullshit and I'm inclined to agree. It's straight up awfully weak speed control. Nobody's exactly excited about Icy Wind and Electroweb, and these things are available much earlier, at 7th Street. Yes we get better moves now, but Ame is still the huge wild card known as Ame. Acrobatics is great without an Item (which hurts, let's be real, there's a risk-reward with this move), but versatile? Anyway, the TMs we expect aren't leader TMs anymore, and the one TM of a leader that can be an issue in the fight will be Scaldspam. Oh the burns. Gleam, Cannon/Wing, Slide/Edge, Dragon Claw won't be issues. The other many TMs tho are trickier. I'll get to write a pm to Ame as the resident item placement expert about them sometime, examining where the weaker things can be put in retrospectively. That and the level curve. But I is lazy... Okay, Bulldoze isn't awesome haha, but Acrobatics gives a strong flying move to a lot of non-flying Pokemon that usually can't learn one - that's what I meant by versatile. You can also still use it in tandem with flying gems, which are available on the cheap in Reborn. Then again I'm just a lowly player, not a resident item placement expert (cool title btw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Okay, Bulldoze isn't awesome haha, but Acrobatics gives a strong flying move to a lot of non-flying Pokemon that usually can't learn one - that's what I meant by versatile. You can also still use it in tandem with flying gems, which are available on the cheap in Reborn. Then again I'm just a lowly player, not a resident item placement expert (cool title btw). Nah, I meant, Acro does a truckload of damage and is good, it's only singlle-targeted damaging move without sideeffects, that's the "versatile?" question. Your reasoning to abuse it with the gems is great. Allthough Samson may dislike it, a whole lot What I meant is that I did the last item guide and I got pretty much a feel about what Ame's planning had in mind and how it changes slowly and which parts are still in slight contradiction. For example, we get the TM for Sandstorm halfway through the E15 part of the story, propably because that was the plan. Meanwhile, in the same update, Drilbur got the axe from the game (barring mystery egg luck) and was replaced by Hippo, who's an auto sand setter and is available ...6 whole badges earlier than the TM. That's prolly something that shows two different moments in of planning in the same version. An opposite example is Vulpix, who used to be available whenever you could beat a sole lvl 45 Klinklang, with Sunny Day coming much later. Now, Vulpix got moved way back and Sunny Day is both given in the flow of the story and impossible to miss, while Vulpix is later and harder to get because you need a Pokemon that's not found past the Circus. That's the correction of two different plannings to make more sense. Anyway I got a really good bearing on where everything is and what is available when and why and what became available retroactively in E15 and what became available in E15 but was planned ahead to be there, that's pretty much it. We got Venoshock and Double Team in E15 retroactively. There's always hope. Edited December 16, 2015 by Odybld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biboo195 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'm just wishing for more move tutors. Seeing as good stuff like Iron Head + Hyper Voice + Knock Off all comes from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swordsman Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Hm, this got me thinking again (sorry in advance): will we ever see a scene where ZEL is reverted back into three separate entities? I'm aware that Eve and Lumi's bodies likely died off after they were fused into Zero's, but then again time warps and such seem to be a thing in this game - at least down in Arc-d'Astrae. Arceus could separate them also but some how I don't think that the sympathetic Meteor members are going to live that long. Edited December 16, 2015 by The Swordsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymdall Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I'm still expecting something weird from Titania: Steel Wing. Her ace is Scizor, there's a field that raises the BP threshold of moves boosted by Technician and Ame loves doing some wild stuff with TMs (see Bullshit, ehm, Bulldoze). Scald and Dazzling Gleam are the only candidates of their respective types, and we got the three trolly options for Rock in E15 (Rock Tomb, Sandstorm, Rock Polish). Allthough I can't see Ame giving us Dragon Tail because Ame loves weird defensive shtick and considers them too precious to give out. We just got Roar anyway. Oh and at least Steel isn't Gyro Ball, we;ve cleared that too. While I'm inclined to agree here, I'm gonna have to say that Titania is definitely going to give us Flash Cannon. Sure, Terra gives us a...lackluster TM but if she gave us EQ, I'd be even more surprised. Earthquake is a staple competitive move, and from what I see, Amethyst is very much about not giving us incredibly standard things. See the lack of Tentacool and Drilbur in Ep15 outside of the Mystery Egg. But at this point, the Leader given TMs seem to have taken a step up in quality. Luna gives us Dark Pulse, Charlotte gives us Flamethrower, and Ciel gave us Acrobatics. Those are three very damaging moves, two of which are generally given to various Pokemon for coverage options, and the 3rd of which is a powerful strategy all on its own(See Unburden and other things). And frankly, I don't think Amethyst is THAT mean to give us such a sucky move in Steel Wing. Of course, I could be entirely talking out of my ass here and Amethyst could give us Steel Wing. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CURIE Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 It's been over a month, so how about that new hold item? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 All I could find on the Item currently is this: (from the Dev AMA thread) I don't have any specific plans for increasing transformative effects but the item I'll be announcing shortly will help in letting players use their own fields more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I just hope it gets a cooler name than its working one. And that it's gonna be available at a reasonable point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted December 18, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted December 18, 2015 right i should probably get on that in other news, i had some kind of naive notion that "this one field that's literally 5x as much work as every other field" would not also be 5x as much work to code. i'm not really sure why i thought that might be the case, but consider me thoroughly corrected. (especially since trying to -start- coding it in has lead me to find a bug in 15's implementation of field transformations where a bunch of them just flat out aren't working so i have to restructure a bunch of the code. god bless.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon116 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Your system is really smooth though. I would be surprised if it was hopelessly flawed. You can do it Ame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXMETAHPERSONXx Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I guess you could say that Re-born is going to get RE-BORN OHHHHHHH +1 for bad puns xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huszti Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 will we ever see a scene where ZEL is reverted back into three separate entities? IIRC only the minds are fused together, not the bodies; they all inhabit Zeros body. Lumi mentioned in her diary that she's looking down at her own body. also, if the bodies were gone, the people in ametrine would've mentioned the girls suddenly disappearing, instead of dying. so, them being somehow able to separate wouldn't make sense. now, another thing i wanted to mention, the remaining PULSE. so far, a single-type Pokemon has become a dual-type (with the exception of muk, who gained the ability Protean instead) when being amplified by the PULSE. i dont quite remember if Mr. Mime was actually confirmed or just a guess as making the force field in labradorra but maybe it wasnt confirmed to be a psychic/fairy as the certain episode was made. the only confirmed time a pokemon (that was definitely a dual-type before release of the episode its mentioned in) was Magneton, which made the PULSE (prototype?) malfunction (also according to the diary, iirc) to "create" ZEL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developers Marcello Posted December 19, 2015 Developers Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) IIRC only the minds are fused together, not the bodies; they all inhabit Zeros body. Lumi mentioned in her diary that she's looking down at her own body. also, if the bodies were gone, the people in ametrine would've mentioned the girls suddenly disappearing, instead of dying. so, them being somehow able to separate wouldn't make sense. now, another thing i wanted to mention, the remaining PULSE. so far, a single-type Pokemon has become a dual-type (with the exception of muk, who gained the ability Protean instead) when being amplified by the PULSE. i dont quite remember if Mr. Mime was actually confirmed or just a guess as making the force field in labradorra but maybe it wasnt confirmed to be a psychic/fairy as the certain episode was made. the only confirmed time a pokemon (that was definitely a dual-type before release of the episode its mentioned in) was Magneton, which made the PULSE (prototype?) malfunction (also according to the diary, iirc) to "create" ZEL. I have to admit, that's not something I've ever considered. Mr. Mime I believe WAS confirmed as the barrier. Even if, for the sake of argument, we treat Mr. Mime as pure Psychic and say PULSE-able mons need to be single-type, while we never fought it, I believe you're forgetting Camerupt from Pyrous Mountain. While the machine itself was sabotaged, no reason to think it wouldn't work, and Camerupt are Ground/Fire. I imagine the main reason most PULSE mons are single type is that Ame wanted to use less competitively viable mons for it otherwhise they'd be too stronk, and more of said mons seem to only have one type. Still, not something I'd ever noticed. Edited December 19, 2015 by Marcello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenOneRaisedGenY Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Quote: will we ever see a scene where ZEL is reverted back into three separate entities? Hutzi: IIRC only the minds are fused together, not the bodies; they all inhabit Zeros body. Lumi mentioned in her diary that she's looking down at her own body. also, if the bodies were gone, the people in ametrine would've mentioned the girls suddenly disappearing, instead of dying. so, them being somehow able to separate wouldn't make sense. But you took my quote out of context. In literally the next line, I acknowledged that their bodies died off Full quote here: "Hm, this got me thinking again (sorry in advance): will we ever see a scene where ZEL is reverted back into three separate entities? I'm aware that Eve and Lumi's bodies likely died off after they were fused into Zero's, but then again time warps and such seem to be a thing in this game - at least down in Arc-d'Astrae." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemia Chan Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I do hope we get to use the pulse Pokemon by post-game as a Mega but I guess that will never happen. Just wishful thinking here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drymus Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Given the pain it causes the Pokemon it powers up, I think ethically we would refuse to use them. Also, the PULSE machines are significantly bigger than our bicycles, the biggest item we are able to carry around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead account Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I certainly wouldn't use PULSEs, even if they were a thing we could use. It'd make me no better than Team Meteor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted December 22, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted December 22, 2015 I'm going to try and post here a little more regularly even if it's just with whatever I've worked on day-to-day (unless it's getting repetitive). I definitely won't have something to show for it each day but, at least hopefully it'll colour in these dead periods where the status % really isn't going up. today i kept working on "that one field," trying to add support for an attribute that changes moves' targetting. i've pretty much been working on it all day and uhh... the current state of things is that the targetting is successfully changed!! ...with the minor side effect, of, the move activating infinitely within the same turn until something dies. (which is particularly inconvenient when the move does no damage) it's been a long day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytch_doctr Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Sounds like a pain. Good luck Ame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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