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So, an interesting thing happened. I took a nap earlier and had a dream about the E16 status going up to 93%. Normally when I dream there's a minute or so after I wake up where my brain still thinks the dream is real, but for some reason I just had this feeling that the status actually had gone up to 93%. So I checked and it did.

I think this is what's called deja vu?

you might still be living the dream.

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Yeah, unfortunately I agree that Obsidia and the other 'white' mixes sound a bit off to me. It could just be that, like someone else mentioned, I'm just not used to it and I just need to experience it in-game to appreciate it, but I also agree that something about the instrumentation doesn't seem to fit. I dunno, maybe it'll grow on me eventually. I usually don't fully appreciate a piece of music no matter how good until I see it in action.

For all the TMs being available, I... think that's the case, but I don't remember. All Pokemon are also supposed to be available by the final episode, but is that before the Elite 4? I don't think Ame would want us bringing in a Rayquaza or something for the final boss. In fact, I'm kinda hoping we can't, not because I don't want awesome Pokermuns, but because Ame only gives us Pokermuns that she thinks are appropriate for that point in the game. So I gotta wonder, if we're at the point where we're able to obtain Rayquaza, just what sort of insanity will we be up against? Scary thoughts, man.

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laid out all of the episode's battles today

and started story events for the main area

and stayed up way too late and hit the halfway point

i want to stay up forever and keep working on this

but that is probably not a good idea

good night

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Yeah, unfortunately I agree that Obsidia and the other 'white' mixes sound a bit off to me. It could just be that, like someone else mentioned, I'm just not used to it and I just need to experience it in-game to appreciate it, but I also agree that something about the instrumentation doesn't seem to fit. I dunno, maybe it'll grow on me eventually. I usually don't fully appreciate a piece of music no matter how good until I see it in action.

For all the TMs being available, I... think that's the case, but I don't remember. All Pokemon are also supposed to be available by the final episode, but is that before the Elite 4? I don't think Ame would want us bringing in a Rayquaza or something for the final boss. In fact, I'm kinda hoping we can't, not because I don't want awesome Pokermuns, but because Ame only gives us Pokermuns that she thinks are appropriate for that point in the game. So I gotta wonder, if we're at the point where we're able to obtain Rayquaza, just what sort of insanity will we be up against? Scary thoughts, man.

Well, no a Rayquaza... but a Meloetta, Articuno, or many UU legendaries would be fine. I mean, we gonna have a Gyarados, Gengar and many others OU at some point before the league... Idk why not? :)

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Flash??

You're playing a simon based lock in a dark cave for instance. you press a button, a color pattern is activated while you are forced to stand still and you have to recreate it. Of course the tiles/buttons are far away enough from each other to not see the pattern if you don't use flash. btw he missed dive.

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tm 26 is hidden in the depths of the victory road in a chamber that requires surf+waterfall+rock climb+strength+rocksmash+flash+cut

You act as if HMs are greatest form of torture. Have you already forgotten that most puzzles in the game don't even use HMs yet they are more torture than everything but Wallace's Gym Puzzle we've seen in a Pokemon game.

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You act as if HMs are greatest form of torture. Have you already forgotten that most puzzles in the game don't even use HMs yet they are more torture than everything but Wallace's Gym Puzzle we've seen in a Pokemon game.

what's the deal with wallace gym puzzle?

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Possibly because Wallace's Gym Puzzle, you gotta step on every part of the icy floor once and only once or you fall through in order to unlock the next set of stairs, progressively getting harder and you need to make sure the final part of the icy floor you step on is exactly in front of the stairs or you will fall through the floor and need to do it again, basically for people who aren't good at finding the one path it is hell

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I don't think legendaries before post game are fun. Currently trying to beat hardcore with 4 mon and this game really makes you think, legendaries suck away the challenge with broken stats.

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Yeah, I wasn't entirely expecting to see legendaries before post-game, even the low-tier ones like Articuno and pretty much anything with a base stat total under 600.

... but I actually really like Articuno. It's so pretty. ame plz

Meloetta can be a monster.

What world are you living in?

A world of bliss where there is no competitive battling, tiers don't exist, and everyone's Pokemon is a Gyarados.

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A world of bliss where there is no competitive battling, tiers don't exist, and everyone's Pokemon is a Gyarados.

Competition is the life and blood of our species. As long as I live I will use the best option available. Tiers are great ^_^

Also, there are some trash legendaries that are completely worthless, such as the Lake, Titan, and Swords of Justice Trios. One could also say the Legendary Beasts Trio, but they are useful depending on the item, EV spread, and moveset, although not by much, so that one would be up to debate. Other legendaries, such as the Mortality, Eon, and Tower Duos are actually somewhat useful, so crossing them off the list until post game makes sense. However, adding in the trios I've mention would impact nothing on gameplay, as they are so worthless that using them is actually a hinderance. Although, of course, the decision is ultimately up to the creator.

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Competition is the life and blood of our species. As long as I live I will use the best option available. Tiers are great ^_^

Also, there are some trash legendaries that are completely worthless, such as the Lake, Titan, and Swords of Justice Trios. One could also say the Legendary Beasts Trio, but they are useful depending on the item, EV spread, and moveset, although not by much, so that one would be up to debate. Other legendaries, such as the Mortality, Eon, and Tower Duos are actually somewhat useful, so crossing them off the list until post game makes sense. However, adding in the trios I've mention would impact nothing on gameplay, as they are so worthless that using them is actually a hinderance. Although, of course, the decision is ultimately up to the creator.

Ahem

Azelf --- 75/125/70/125/70/115 --- OU

Keldeo --- 91/72/90/129/90/108 --- OU

Terrakion --- 91/129/90/72/90/108 --- BL (OU)

Cobalion --- 91/90/129/90/72/108 --- UU

Raikou --- 90/85/75/115/100/115 --- OU

Suicune --- 100/75/115/90/115/85 --- UU

Entei --- 115/115/85/90/75/100 --- UU

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Meloetta can be a monster.

What world are you living in?

Well i guess maybe?.... even a lvl 1 starly can be a monster...

Just saying that some leges are not too over powered, and could perfectly been added pre legue.

Anyway, if is alredy confirmed that all gonna be post game, we will have to wait u,u

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(Looks at topic's direction) Yeah...I'm gonna stay out of this one. I've stated my opinions on that stuff many, many times anyways and the same old discussion comes back one way or another.

I mean Reborn pretty much just showcases all these cool mons and what they can do and how they can kick absolute butt, but if they aren't OU, they're completely worthless. Seriously though, there aren't any tiers when it comes to games just whatever the heck the creator wants to do. BA Kricketot at the begining of the game. No problem. Leader crushes your soul using PU Bug Pokemon in the rain causing so many complaints on being too strong, not a problem either. So many fun mons to choose from.

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referring back to the comparison of charlottes gym puzzle and Wallace gym puzzle, difference is that iirc Charlotte's gym puzzle once the floor is all filled in it is safe to just walk across to the stairs, Wallace gm...not so much

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