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Won't fire type moves still be super effective on this field? They gain dragon typing making them neutral, but dragon type moves gain 2x power so it would be the same as super effective, right?

Against Scizor, yes. Not against Klefki or Mawile.

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Correct. For regular Steel types it doesn't really change anything, but if she wants to, she can use a Steel/Fairy without fear of Fire, leaving Ground as the sole weakness. Pretty cool, considering Skarmory, Scizor, Ferrothorn and anything with Air Balloon don't bother much with Ground type attacks.

However, nothing stops her from using a Rain Dance Bronzong with Amplifield Rock.

It also boosts Empoleon, as it will hit back with SE damage. Empoleon is a highly likely pokemon for Titania to have, as it will show influence from Amaria.

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So i guess nobody wants to mention Bronzong? if we're trynna avoid using Metagross again this would fit really nicely, taking care of Fighting Types and Levitate for Ground Types in case just Skarmory doesn't do the job, also could set up Trick Room seeing as how most Steel Types are somewhat slow, also a Pokemon who could make use of Flash Cannon since we need a 'mon with the TM

when it comes to Pokemon being used twice by Gym Leaders though.. we've seen that with Gengar and Excadrill. Both Shade and Aya have a Gengar (Corey had a Haunter too so thats 3. technically?)

and both Terra and Titania have Excadrills.

and if we're taking into account Other characters--not just Gym Leaders, then thats 3(or 4 if you count Corey's Haunter) Gengars--Cain has one too doesnt he? 3 Excadrills-- since Solaris has one too. 2 Garchomps Terra's and Solaris'. 2 Chandelures : Solaris and Shade.And as mentioned-- a lot of Scizors. a lot of those. And i may be missing more

Gallade has been used by Victoria , Kiki and Radomus.

Malamar was used by Radomus and Luna

Honchkrow was used by Noel and Luna.

I can remeber those too

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Noel never had a Honchkrow (he's a Normal leader and it doesn't benefit his team as a wildcard so I dunno why he would), but outside of gym leaders, Sirius also owns one. Can't think of anyone else that does, though.

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Does anyone have any predictions as to what new mons we might see added this episode? I for one am really hoping for the Salamence line to be implemented, but seeing as how strong Salamence is, I doubt it will happen. Would love to see the Aegislash line aswell, altough that seems just as unlikely.

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Does anyone have any predictions as to what new mons we might see added this episode? I for one am really hoping for the Salamence line to be implemented, but seeing as how strong Salamence is, I doubt it will happen. Would love to see the Aegislash line aswell, altough that seems just as unlikely.

Just a guess here but I think water types not yet seen will make appearances like tentacool and shelder.

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There are still going to be some Grimer left. It's not like we exterminated them. We might have just pushed them more towards where the factories were, but we'll still meet them every now and then, possibly also while surfing. Tentacool however, is still nowhere to be seen.

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Not sure if anyone has asked this, but are there any plans to upgrade the graphics a bit? Like the trainer overworld sprites from r/s/e to something like the ones from d/p? (And I'm talking in general, not just in e16)

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Not sure if anyone has asked this, but are there any plans to upgrade the graphics a bit? Like the trainer overworld sprites from r/s/e to something like the ones from d/p? (And I'm talking in general, not just in e16)

The overworld from D/P doesn;t match well with the Gen III's tiles so if that happens it won't be a bit upgrade. However, I hope some UI upgrades though which I guess will be there in Ep. 16~

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seeing as how strong Salamence is, I doubt it will happen.

You're a funny guy.

Anyway, maybe the possible death of Zel is just that?

Like Zero, Evelynn and Lumi unfuse and everyone lives happily ever after?

So only the being known as Zel dies?

Please?

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You're a funny guy.

Anyway, maybe the possible death of Zel is just that?

Like Zero, Evelynn and Lumi unfuse and everyone lives happily ever after?

So only the being known as Zel dies?

Please?

well Evelynn and Lumi would probably end up dead then only their minds fused with zeros body so both of their bodies are probably malnourished beyond the point of return

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If Foamy was right about the three blurred-out names on the relationship variable picture being Eve, Lumi, and Taka, I think it'd be Zero saying goodbye. After they unfuse, maybe Eve and/or Lumi do something to him for being the reason they fused together (although neither seems like the type to do that), or maybe he just runs away, or betrays Team Meteor for Eve and Lumi.

I think every character listed on the relationship variable table picture is safe (which IIRC is everyone except Ame, Lin, Solaris, Sirius, Corey, Kiki, and presumably Zero). I remember it being said we'd be able to do sidequests with those characters depending on the variables (and that we'd still get to do them even with low variables, we'd just have to work harder) and I imagine those will be really late game and/or postgame. So I don't think we'd be saying goodbye in any way, shape, or form to one of those.

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How would ZEL separating work exactly? If I remember correctly, when they fused Eve and Lumi's souls were sucked out of their bodies and forced into Zero's. I believe that Lumi's diary even mentioned her being able to see her own lifeless body. If ZEL does separate, where would the two of them go?

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If their bodies still physically exist, maybe their souls will return to them. I imagine the actual process of them unfusing would involve defeating the PULSE Magnezone, which is involved in the events of how they were fused in the first place. But I'm not sure how that would work from a technical point of view, I just think it'll happen somehow if they're indeed on the relationship variable table, and because I'm not really sure where else ZEL could be at endgame and what they could be doing (and I just like the idea of them unfusing).

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If their bodies still physically exist, maybe their souls will return to them. I imagine the actual process of them unfusing would involve defeating the PULSE Magnezone, which is involved in the events of how they were fused in the first place. But I'm not sure how that would work from a technical point of view, I just think it'll happen somehow if they're indeed on the relationship variable table, and because I'm not really sure where else ZEL could be at endgame and what they could be doing (and I just like the idea of them unfusing).

I can't remember if it's actually referenced in game but I feel like during the diary scene that we learned the ZEL incident happened a while back. In most cases the bodies would be decomposed unless of course 1 of 2 things happen. Either the body was frozen in some way because it's a cold region, preserving it. Or that even without any brain activity the bodies are still "alive" in a sense and being kept alive in a hospital somewhere as if they are in a coma. I would say the first would be more likely as the two sisters had no real family left so I doubt they would be kept alive for a super long time.

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