dead account Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Well, apparently some gym leaders moved higher , so... I'm just gonna keep thinking Arclight will be either part of the e4 or a champ (same for anna) and i think bennett will be e4 too I doubt Arclight is one of the Elite 4 or the champ. All the gym leaders and confirmed or implied Elite 4 members are all involved in the main story. Arclight only appears twice, the first time is outside the nightclub, and the other is down in 7th street where he asks you to buy the stolen pokemon from the vendor. Both of these events are optional side-things. Edited November 1, 2015 by aquawaffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2001 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm pretty sure Ame has said we'll get to battle all of the gym leaders from the online league. We might just battle Arc in the nightclub but we're going to battle him at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I doubt Arclight is one of the Elite 4 or the champ. All the gym leaders and confirmed or implied Elite 4 members are all involved in the main story. Arclight only appears twice, the first time is outside the nightclub, and the other is down in 7th street where he asks you to buy the stolen pokemon from the vendor. Both of these events are optional side-things. Ey, the game isn't over yet, you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead account Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) I'm sure if Arclight was going to be relevant to the story, he'd have been involved in it by now. Literally all the other gym leaders from the online league have been relevant to the main story so far. Edited November 1, 2015 by aquawaffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumble Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Maybe we'll get to see more of him when we get back to Reborn City in E16, who knows? But I don't really think he'll be an E4 member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm sure if Arclight was going to be relevant to the story, he'd have been involved in it by now. Literally all the other gym leaders from the online league have been relevant to the main story so far. The main reason why Arclight and Adrienn are so little involved storywise is probably due to them joining the league after the Reborn game was already pretty far in the works (about the halfway point iirc...actually it might've been close to Episode 9 or 10). Heck, there wasn't even a gym in Coral Ward originally iirc. Arclight replaced Sigmund in league much later which at that point was kind of too late imo. He might be E4, he might be a post game fight. As for the whole E4 and facing 5 leaders in a row, it'll likely be more based on how balanced your team is as you can heal inbetween battles. You'll slowly reach your peak in strength by the time you reach the top so that'll also mean you'll have a good team. If you run an unbalanced team, it'll really hurt you just like in the actual league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessi Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 traditionally in pokemon games the e4 members had not a big importance during the game.so it could be possible that a mostly unknown character is part of the e4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerxwnaKapsyla Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm fairly sure by now we've seen all the Elite 4 members, just by going off what I've been told about the community's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2001 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 traditionally in pokemon games the e4 members had not a big importance during the game.so it could be possible that a mostly unknown character is part of the e4 This isn't a traditional pokemon game in terms of character involvement though. Most of the gym leaders in the main series games (except 5th gen) hold little to no relevance to the plot either. I think chances are we've met the entire elite four by this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biboo195 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Everyone is talking about Arclight and E4, and I'm just waiting for more pokemon and move tutors to show up. Hyper Voice, Knock Off and Low Kick for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead account Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'm personally hoping Skarmory gets added soon. It's my favourite pokemon, and I really want to use it in Reborn. Most of the official games put Skarmory very late into the game. And Gen 4 didn't even let you catch one until the post-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenome Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Ame kind of has to add those last few species(Talonflame, Aegislash, Skarmory, etc.) soon, she can only put off their involvement so long before its kind of pointless. At this point when we regularly battle pseudo legends I wouldn't be surprised if everything but them is added to the game in either ep.16 or 17. I can see her delaying pseudo's until after most gyms but I'd appreciate her adding them before Saphira, If only so I can battle each member of her team with my own counterpart. As for E4, Bennet and El are both confirmed, Heather is a possible because she has a decent role and has at least one strong pokemon but she could also be the backup dragon leader. Also we know Anna has some league role, so there is another possible E4, beyond that its only really baseless theories, but DJ Arclight being champion would fit the criteria of being really aware of who beat the League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Ice Cream Sand Witch Posted November 2, 2015 Global Mods Share Posted November 2, 2015 Heather has been confirmed, also she's a Flying trainer. Bennett hasn't been confirmed but has been heavily implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2001 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Ame kind of has to add those last few species(Talonflame, Aegislash, Skarmory, etc.) soon, she can only put off their involvement so long before its kind of pointless. At this point when we regularly battle pseudo legends I wouldn't be surprised if everything but them is added to the game in either ep.16 or 17. I can see her delaying pseudo's until after most gyms but I'd appreciate her adding them before Saphira, If only so I can battle each member of her team with my own counterpart. As for E4, Bennet and El are both confirmed, Heather is a possible because she has a decent role and has at least one strong pokemon but she could also be the backup dragon leader. Also we know Anna has some league role, so there is another possible E4, beyond that its only really baseless theories, but DJ Arclight being champion would fit the criteria of being really aware of who beat the League. Heather is the most confirmed member. She has flat out said she is an elite four. Also she is flying. El said Elite and we are assumoing that Bennett replaced Laura. Edit: Ninja'd Edited November 2, 2015 by mde2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sound of silence Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Honestly I would've thought skarmory would've been added by now. I get its a defensive beast, but passive walls in-game aren't that great without episode manipulation to get something like toxic or roost onto it. I think I'd expect it in episode 16 when it becomes much harder to manipulate episodes due to reborn city being renovated back to its former glory, thus creating potentially massive errors if someone tries to manipulate episodes while in the city (big headache for breeders there). I wouldn't expect talonflame's evolutionary line to be available for some time. No easy cop-outs for people looking to get easy revenge kills please. Aegislash's line is simply too good full stop. Its the sort of thing I'd expect to be an event mon buried somewhere along reborn's equivalent of victory road. Has way too good a match-up against every gym leader remaining except for Amaria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Ame actually has a mad respect to the point of fixation for passive one-sided walls. Like Mandibuzz or Jellicent being in the mystery egg. Eww. That's a really bad dose of bad luck to get that. Speaking of Pokemon speculation, of the bits in Reborn that I really dislike, and is also a strong indicator about how Ms. Liddell views things, is not separating NFE mons from their final forms. And I'm talking about deployable NFE Pokemon that get no love just because of their placement. Magmar and Electabuzz would be really nice to have earlier than Calcenon, by the time we reach them I guess that they aren't up to stuff to justify a team spot. Same goes for Gligar, who would be very very neat earlier in the game (even, say, like, after Kiki) but is put in too late just because Gliscor is that good and it's useless at that point. Sneazel is a strange case. It can do work against Terra and Ciel, it's available between these two. Say, you move Sneazel after Radomous: it's meh against Luna, and Samson and Charlotte completely utterly destroy it. Anyway, we mostly know the homes of the most mons we don't have access to yet. Ferro, Mandi, Drilbur and co will be in the desert, and all the remaining Water types require the Super Rod. And Ame hates water types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead account Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The likes of Talonflame and Aegislash I can understand being very late into the game and requiring a considerable amount of effort to obtain(or just requiring you to do something really strange that most people would normally never think to do, like the whole process of obtaining Beldum). Skarmory doesn't seem like it would be that useful by comparison. Most its good moves come from either TMs(which we don't have), breeding(which is a pain in the ass anyway, and some of the moves require episode manipulation), or from tutors(lolnope). It barely has access to anything that can help it do its job as a wall correctly. Most I can see it doing now, without episode manipulation, is being a set-up sweeper with Curse and Brave Bird. And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other options available already if you wanted a set-up sweeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The likes of Talonflame and Aegislash I can understand being very late into the game and requiring a considerable amount of effort to obtain(or just requiring you to do something really strange that most people would normally never think to do, like the whole process of obtaining Beldum). Skarmory doesn't seem like it would be that useful by comparison. Most its good moves come from either TMs(which we don't have), breeding(which is a pain in the ass anyway, and some of the moves require episode manipulation), or from tutors(lolnope). It barely has access to anything that can help it do its job as a wall correctly. Most I can see it doing now, without episode manipulation, is being a set-up sweeper with Curse and Brave Bird. And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other options available already if you wanted a set-up sweeper. Ame actually has a mad respect to the point of fixation for passive one-sided walls. Yup, I think we already agree on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdleThoughts Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Champion and Elite Four speculations are fun. I see Anna as being a member of the Elite Four because for whatever reason I want to attach Elite Four members to the four Keystones, As for champions, for some reason I feel like Ame will pull a Gen 5 and make Lin our champion, perhaps even in a disguise or something, as people seem to recognize her yet without proposing a name, as if they acknowledge the face but with differences that throws them off. Maybe my opinions are biased because I don't want Arclignt to be in either the E4 or be the Champion because he doesn't really play too huge a role in the plot -- I even forgot completely about him until I started my second play-through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That was the map thread, and meanwhile, the other champs of the Reborn league are gym leaders in the game (Charlotte for example). Also that map is obscenely outdated. Like, Hardy is the leader of Calcenon there, whereas in the game he's in Agate City and we already fought Charlotte in Calcenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Ice Cream Sand Witch Posted November 3, 2015 Global Mods Share Posted November 3, 2015 I didn't read through the descriptions for everything but wow, the game ended up being a lot different than what's written there. It looks like many Gym Leader roles changed than what was originally intended. Apparently Terra was supposed to be the leader of Labradorra City, the Onyx Trainer's School used to be Florinia's gym, Sigmund was the Electric leader with his orphanage as the gym while Shelly was the former Bug leader with the Lapis Gym abandoned, and the Neo Circuit Plant was the former Electric gym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead account Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Interesting read, even if the later parts are kind of a spoiler. Apparently, Hardy was going to be the Calcenon leader, which kind of makes more sense than Charlotte, considering this was where we got the badge that let us use Dive outside of battle. I wonder what the deal with the whole "Former Champion Lin" thing is now? Edited November 3, 2015 by aquawaffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star-kin Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 i have to ask--what happens if you choose not to kill Bigglesworth? from what i've heard, he's what keeps adding waste to the wasteland. so what happens if you...i don't know, happen to be lazy or refuse to traverse the confusing wasteland? maybe after the city is remodeled, Byxbysion will stay the same, bc we haven't taken out the Garbodor. but then again, it's only Reborn city that's going to be fixed, isn't it... i really wanted to see Apophyll and Azurine Island's scenery ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytch_doctr Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 i have to ask--what happens if you choose not to kill Bigglesworth? from what i've heard, he's what keeps adding waste to the wasteland. so what happens if you...i don't know, happen to be lazy or refuse to traverse the confusing wasteland? maybe after the city is remodeled, Byxbysion will stay the same, bc we haven't taken out the Garbodor. but then again, it's only Reborn city that's going to be fixed, isn't it... i really wanted to see Apophyll and Azurine Island's scenery ok Maybe there will be some plot related thing concerning Mr Bigglesworth, and a special battle if you had already beaten him? That would be really cool :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRunner Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Maybe there will be some plot related thing concerning Mr Bigglesworth, and a special battle if you had already beaten him? That would be really cool :3 If that happens, we'll all replay Reborn again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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