Jacobliterator Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 After being inspired by Fawful's Minion's list, I want to know your most hated cliché in gaming. For example, you know what I hate? Air meters. AIR. METERS. IN. GAMES. ARE. BULLSH*T! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peepeepoopoo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 What are air meters? If I had to say, it's "I'm dead surprise I'm not really dead" When it seems like the character dies but you know there's no way the plot would allow that and then they show up expecting you to be surprised but you saw this coming a mile away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobliterator Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 What are air meters? If I had to say, it's "I'm dead surprise I'm not really dead" When it seems like the character dies but you know there's no way the plot would allow that and then they show up expecting you to be surprised but you saw this coming a mile away. Sorry. You know how in underwater sections characters have a certain amount of time they can stay underwater before they die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Probably the whole "Now that I have this magical/special weapon, I can defeat the final boss." That literally is used in about 80% of the RPGs out there and quite a lot of other genres as well. I generally hate when I game makes a huge focus on a weapon, often a sword if it's supposed to have a deeper storyline (Xenoblade is a game that did this right). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobliterator Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Probably the whole "Now that I have this magical/special weapon, I can defeat the final boss." That literally is used in about 80% of the RPGs out there and quite a lot of other genres as well. I generally hate when I game makes a huge focus on a weapon, often a sword if it's supposed to have a deeper storyline (Xenoblade is a game that did this right). Ah yes, the Master Sword effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzam Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Well to be fair, in the original Zelda you didn't need the master sword to defeat Ganon so yea \o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobliterator Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Well to be fair, in the original Zelda you didn't need the master sword to defeat Ganon so yea \o/ But you DID need the Silver Arrow. That frustrated me to no end before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cepheus Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Not really hated, because they are somewhat necessery... but always confusing: Health Potions! Argh! I've been stabbed a hundred times by enemy swords, clawed by monsters bitten by Zombies, Burned alive by Dragons breath... let me just take a sip of this potion and all my gaping and bleeding wounds will heal INSTANTLY (or over a VERY short amount of time) That there are so many ill and crippled people in RPGs... WHY don't they just take a health potion? these worlds have literally NO NEED for a doctor profession, because you can buy these things infinitely in every shop in the world! or take the 3D Mario Games (64, Sunshine, Galaxy) - he gets wounded by all kind of things... but as soon as he grabs a COIN he heals these wounds... another thing RPG-related: MONSTER dropping GOLD-COINS (or the RPGs currency) after they are defeated... how did these monster get the gold-coins, and where do they hide it?? (I'm not talking about humanoid enemies but the REAL Monsters, like dragons, or demon-dogs or whatever) and the WoW-Quest syndrome: I'm on a collecting quest... I have to slay monsters to get hold of their eyes (for whatever reason)... sooooo Why didn't the 4 eyed-Monster I just killed have ANY eyes???? I'm certain I didn't strike the head! WHY???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 When everybody else is shit at everything except the bad guys. As the hero, you gotta do everything yourself. And in some instances (hyrule warriors) you gotta constantly backtrack to help out the crappy ally or else game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaunt Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 another thing RPG-related: MONSTER dropping GOLD-COINS (or the RPGs currency) after they are defeated... how did these monster get the gold-coins, and where do they hide it?? (I'm not talking about humanoid enemies but the REAL Monsters, like dragons, or demon-dogs or whatever) Because they ate someone who had those coins? But you're right it still makes little sense unless your protagonist digs through their intestines (if they even have them) after every fight. What i hate the most is the "you're the good hero" cliche like really most of the games out there do it and even if (in some RPG) you have a "pseudo" (because huge penalties and drawbacks) option to be "evil" it still doesn't matter in the end you'll "save the world" anyway i'm really tired of this and for the last 3 years i've been playing only evil protagonists (if humanly possible). I'm waiting for a game where you can be evil from beginning to the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peepeepoopoo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) another thing RPG-related: MONSTER dropping GOLD-COINS (or the RPGs currency) after they are defeated... how did these monster get the gold-coins, and where do they hide it?? (I'm not talking about humanoid enemies but the REAL Monsters, like dragons, or demon-dogs or whatever) I always imagined that the reason they dropped things like coins or other valuables was that they had recently eaten someone who was carrying those things and the coins didn't have time to digest Edit: Wow someone ninja'd me to it Edited June 14, 2015 by DarkSpite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Legend cliche: I tolerate it, it's spammed nearly everywhere in the damn RPG world. Skyrim although nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted June 14, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted June 14, 2015 For the monster coin thing, I always imagined it as like trading things like pelts or monster meat but the game cuts out the middle man and just hands you the money and not the resource. Still there are times when you get both resources AND money but, well, there's gotta be a lot of resources on a monster. A lot of issues I have lie in simple story telling conventions. The one Mael mentioned, where the other people in the world are nigh useless, is a big one. One I hate is disposable characters or issues that show up once JUST to pad out the game. "You need a crystal to power the thing. Wait, now you need three. Oh, and you have to go to three places and fight thee things to get one key to get to one crystal." Looking at you Darksiders 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 This isn't so much of a cliche, but it's still something I hate in most games -- Time limits. Especially when the time limit encompasses the entire game. *cough* Majora's Mask *cough* I don't know. If a game has a time limit segment, I don't really have trouble beating it. It just annoys me to no end for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peepeepoopoo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I don't know. If a game has a time limit segment, I don't really have trouble beating it. It just annoys me to no end for some reason. Maybe because when someone knows they're pressed for time they feel nervous/anxious/panicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezilia Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Leveling. Leveling is the root of all game evil. The only reason why horrible level progression, empty levels, fake difficulty, grinding, and constant changes in experience rate due to patch updates all exist is because leveling exists. Remember when games had strategy anywhere between Mario and Chess? Now there's no strategy at all whatsoever because leveling is a thing. I hate leveling sooooooo much. It has ruined some of the best games I have ever, ever played. As an MMOer and overall RPG fan, I guarantee you that nothing and I mean nothing goes wrong in any of those games unless leveling is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 unneeded quick time events and when a game tries convincing us that their idea is original when it isn't.... cough cough dante's inferno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGJRA Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I can't stand the silent protagonist. Although yeah it's nice to be able to project my emotions onto the character, I'd rather just have him speak instead of just displaying "..." whenever the character is explaining something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirlial Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Worse than the air metre has to be characters that die if they so much as touch water. My character can do so many things and yet they can't swim - that or the waters made of pure acid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peepeepoopoo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Worse than the air metre has to be characters that die if they so much as touch water. My character can do so many things and yet they can't swim - that or the waters made of pure acid. Hey some people can't swim I don't know how to swim either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezilia Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Hey some people can't swim I don't know how to swim either... Well, sure, but you still wouldn't die the MOMENT you touch water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myst Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 You, the character, are the only competent person in the world. No one else can do things without you. When some MMOs give godlike items only through paying like $1000 in actual cash. And if you dont have said items, theres no hope for you at all at endgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I absolutely LOATHE these two tropes: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneWingedAngel http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BishonenLine Why must every monster become more and more humanoid over time (points at most Digimon in their final form)? And why must cunning humans who manipulated the player throughout the game transform into hideous beasts before squaring off in the final battle? I like it when monsters stay monsters and humans stay humans! The "One Winged Angel" one actually bugs me the most: in my long life of gamer I have never, AND I SAY NEVER, faced a human as a final boss. No matter how clever, deranged or badass the human villain is, you just never get to face him, or at least, not in human form. WHY? I mean take Persona 4: you, a Persona-wielding human, have been going around kicking eldricth abominations left and right, so that makes it obvious that a Persona-wielding human is stronger than whatever hideous monster can pop out the TV world... So it made PERFECT SENSE for Adachi, a Persona-wielding human, to be the (supposed) final boss in december... BUT NO! Ame-no-sagiri has to come out of nowhere and take over as the boss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagalfar Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I absolutely LOATHE these two tropes: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneWingedAngel http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BishonenLine Why must every monster become more and more humanoid over time (points at most Digimon in their final form)? And why must cunning humans who manipulated the player throughout the game transform into hideous beasts before squaring off in the final battle? I like it when monsters stay monsters and humans stay humans! The "One Winged Angel" one actually bugs me the most: in my long life of gamer I have never, AND I SAY NEVER, faced a human as a final boss. No matter how clever, deranged or badass the human villain is, you just never get to face him, or at least, not in human form. WHY? [Meh.] Pouf, free surprise spoiler! But i totally agree with that, unfortunately. I can't stand the cliché of the "girl who accompagnies the protagonist who will surely fall in love for him or vice versa", Some things are sweet, this one gives me diabetes. Plus usually this girl is a moron, doesn't help to be loved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 We are talking about a game who has been around for over 6 years, and memes, jokes, videos and gifs involving Adachi are everywhere on the internet... How can that be considered a spoiler? O.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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