How come some get cool pokemon while others don't?

[SgtNoobly]

Hey all I just wanted to point out that its kind of unfair that some people start out with pokemon such as elekid, magby etc while others who get the game later on cannot, and receive pokemon who aren't as good. I also wanted to point out that the area where people used to get elekid from is empty and has no point to it, I was confused at first if I was supposed to do something before going here, but upon researching I realized I missed yet another good pokemon. ):

I love this game thou

(I am very tired when I wrote this so sorry if there are any grammatical errors and all)

[CrazySheriff]

Hey all I just wanted to point out that its kind of unfair that some people start out with pokemon such as elekid, magby etc while others who get the game later on cannot, and receive pokemon who aren't as good. I also wanted to point out that the area where people used to get elekid from is empty and has no point to it, I was confused at first if I was supposed to do something before going here, but upon researching I realized I missed yet another good pokemon. ):

I love this game thou

(I am very tired when I wrote this so sorry if there are any grammatical errors and all)

There is nothing "unfair" in what you are pointing out. They are only playing or have played on some early episodes of the game. The Pokemon that were removed from early stage were just a bit too strong for early game so the devs decided to move them somewhere else. If you want to play with elekid,ralts,magby,magikarp etc early game you just need to download early episodes of the game, for example ep9 if I am correct.

[Lost Lore]

I also wanted to point out that the area where people used to get elekid from is empty and has no point to it, I was confused at first if I was supposed to do something before going here, but upon researching I realized I missed yet another good pokemon. ):

It does have a point- on a sunny day, you can find Helioptile there.

Honestly though, there's nothing unfair about it. As the next episode rolls around, some things are deemed too effective in the early game and thus get pushed back. The idea behind this is to get people to use things they might not have considered before, rather than getting super powerful Pokemon really early on.

And really, that's the best way to find out that something unexpected works better than you thought it would~

[Revengercm]

I have episode 10 if you want it. My team is exactly what you're complaining about lol. You can get magby (needs to be rainy) and ralts without needing to fight even on trainer lawl. You fight some more and get magikarp. Then lvl up a bidoof and trade it for abra lvl 15. The after beating two gyms you get the elekid when there's a thunderstorm. I did this because it is my third run and I don't want to use the same pokemon again or at least I'm bound to because I want a good team early on. I won't get electivire and magmortar until lvl 65 I think. Before fire gym so after a few gyms they might need some extra power to be good.

Edited June 25, 2015 by Revengercm

[Peepeepoopoo]

Life's unfair, don't cry about it. There are still good Pokemon in the game, just not overly powerful Pokemon.

[Fumble]

...Do you know what game you are talking about? Pokemon Reborn is meant to be challenging, not some game you can easily breeze through with an OP Pokemon like Talonflame. There is nothing unfair about it. This game shows you how even the weakest of Pokemon may triumph over difficult Gym Leaders.

Also, you must truly explore. There is no place that "has no point to it". They would simply be removed. You should look at every minor detail and appreciate the game.

[Revengercm]

Yup. All I got from my first run was a stinking growlithe "early" on and I wouldn't evolve it because it wouldn't learn good moves. Then I got magnemite. Then machamp. Then gengar. Then mamoswine and after all that I was able to evolve magnemite into magnezone and that was after Noel so.

Pokemon that I used before getting my final team.

Mightyena

Hariyama

Gloom

I don't remember the rest lol but an Ursaring might help. Just be sure they're good natures even though they're not final team pokemon.

Look for the pokemon list. I'm sure you don't think some pokemon are not that good when they are.

Alakazam is really good because of charge beam and shadowball.

Gardevoir is better ^ because of moonblast but that's before you start getting good TMs for alakazam.

Starter duh.

Magmortar: I won't be able to use psychic, thunderbolt, focus blast, go figure. He isn't that good until later on.

Electivire with brick break, thunderpunch, fire punch is pretty good but he's missing the powerful eq.

Gyarados: Yeah he's good.

Just remember that some pokemon are really good but you'll need weaker pokemon that learn better moves and breed them with different type of damage but you don't need any of that. You're doing the first run. Have fun experimenting other pokemon.

[Taska]

You do know they're still gonna be in the game, right? This game is going to have all 721 pokemon, including legendaries. It's not really unfair per se, it's just a first come first serve type of thing. Since we got the early episodes we got the better pokemon.

[foovy10]

Things are kinda like this in other games, not just reborn and other pokemon games. Its like a game gives something to the people that had the game in the beginning and its not available anymore. Its like legacy skins and stuff in League of Legends. You have supported us even when the game wasnt as popular we thank you but in this situation reborn is trying to make the game more enjoyable and challenging. The person that got the poke chooses how to use it. and besides, there is no possible way to remove the pokemon. Its not online so its unnacessable to anyone besides yourself and whoever you send the file to.

[Kiryuu]

This game isn't about being OP or OPeing the opponents. This game is about you using the least amount of assets in order to pull victory.

Elekid sucks IMO compare to Helioptile anyway. You are not missing anything, you can grab him later in the game.

[BIGJRA]

Basically the point is, while the game goes through development for now, there will eventually be an end-all version that will feature all of the pokemon obtainable and should have the most balanced difficulty out of all the episodes.

[Another Felix]

You can still get Speed Boost Blaziken from a starter. That's pretty damn powerful.

[SgtNoobly]

hmmmm alright I understand, thanks for explaining guys

[Personthing]

Powerful Pokemon such as Elekid were moved back later (far too late in my opinion) so that their competition wouldn't be ignored, and to get the player to try out Pokemon that you would likely never even looked at. They also had the tendency to trivialize certain boss fights.

...Do you know what game you are talking about? Pokemon Reborn is meant to be challenging, not some game you can easily breeze through with an OP Pokemon like Talonflame. There is nothing unfair about it. This game shows you how even the weakest of Pokemon may triumph over difficult Gym Leaders.

Sorry, but I just have to clear this misconception. Talonflame is not a good in game Pokemon. It's best moves until level 44 are Peck, Ember, and Flame Charge. (Which isn't gotten until level 39) It does not have access to Bulk-up or Swords dance in Reborn, which is what makes it so dangerous. Without those moves, readily available Fire-type Pokemon such as Blaziken, Infernape, Typloshion, Arcanine, and Darmanitan all hit harder than Talonflame ever will, and are also faster than most opponents. Talonflame only gets Fire, Flying, and Normal type attacks by level up, so it is completely walled by every rock type in the game, which are plentiful in Reborn. Talonflame may be a good competitive Pokemon, but it is vastly outclassed in game without all of it's tools available to it. I don't like Talonflame, and I would never use it if it were added in game, but being a good competitive Pokemon does not equal being good in game.

EDIT: Whoops, somehow missed the above post. The point had already been explained.

Edited June 26, 2015 by Mighty Kamina

[Amethyst]

Right, to solidify some of the above points, I can't (and wouldn't even if I could) remove already-obtained Pokemon from existing save files. Moreover though, it isn't this way by design. I made some mistakes when I laid out availability originally (not to mention 6th gen happened and changed a lot of things), so I corrected them. I'm not thrilled about the older Pokemon still being in circulation, but that's how it is.

More importantly, as a community we don't necessarily need to jump down someone's throat when they're voicing an outside opinion, or missing a few details.

Respect comes before righteousness.

[Foamy]

Hey all I just wanted to point out that its kind of unfair that some people start out with pokemon such as elekid, magby etc while others who get the game later on cannot, and receive pokemon who aren't as good. I also wanted to point out that the area where people used to get elekid from is empty and has no point to it, I was confused at first if I was supposed to do something before going here, but upon researching I realized I missed yet another good pokemon. ):

Using this logic, it's also unfair that some Magic: The Gathering players own cards like Mox Sapphire or Black Lotus because they were around in 1993 to obtain them before they became $5,000 and $30,000, respectively.

[Nhadala]

Just get Speed Boost Blaziken and teach it High-Jump Kick and Bulk-Up, gratz u now have an overpowered sweeper.

[Masquerain]

Personally, I think of those things as "small gifts" for having been a reborn player long enough to be counted as a veteran. As the game is not finished, things have been changing, things are changing and things will continue to change in accordance to overall balance I presume. Older episodes can always be obtained from other players if someone is enough of an enthusiast to want the strongest things in order to tackle the game.