Jynx

[Joltz]

Hi everyone,

I'm a new Reborn player. Downloaded the game about 2 weeks ago and played through episode 15 up until the end. Restarted the game once after shade because I noticed I should have done a little more planning with my team. So I did just that and put a team together.

To gather information I have visited this forum a lot of times. I see people's teams in their signatures and I love how the devs have taken away overly powerful Pokemon like Gengar, Azumarill and Gyarados as they would otherwise make it to every team.

What I do wonder though is why Jynx doesn't get a lot of love. I'd like to think that I have a pretty solid team, but Jynx really is my superstar. Yes it's a total glass canon so you have to be careful with it. But in the right hands, this Pokemon can be a lot more canon than glass. So I thought about making my first post on this forum a promo for my favorite Pokemon in Reborn Episode 15.

Let's look at my Jynx:

Moveset:

Nasty Plot (I found my Jynx with this move which was like wooooot, but if for some reason your Smoochum doesn't have it, you can easily get it by getting a Croacrunk and leveling it a bit.)

Frost Breath (Oh my god, the only good move Jynx lacks is a good Ice move. Beat the Ice Gym and booya you get in my opinion the strongest Ice move in the game.)

Psychic (Please don't let your Smoochum evolve until level38. This is a must have!)

Lovely Kiss (Start out with Sing, and pay the man in Agate Circus one Heart Scale to get this move instead. It is so worth it.)

Nature: Modest (It has enough speed to outspeed most enemies in the game so pack on the punch I'd say.)

Stats: (I think I'm going to state out the obvious here.)

EV's and IV's

HP: 6/22

Attack: 0/1

Defense: 0/30

Sp. Atk: 252/31

Sp. Def: 0/21

Speed: 252/31

Let's look at the pros and cons together.

PRO:

• It has super high speed. Without having to spend your nature on it.
• It's Dual Type adds on more than one move for STAB so it becomes more versatile than most Psychic types when it comes to One-Shotting.
• Having a 75 Accuracy sleep move like Lovely Kiss, combined with Nasty Plot with an already high Sp. Atk? Yeah it's booya time. This is a great combo to overcome any bossfight.
• It absolutely destroyed 3 of the last 4 Gym Leaders. Samson just by being a Psychic Type, Terra with the Lovely Kiss - Nasty Plot - Blast Combo (this one was the hardest), and Ciel with Ice Type.
• TwistedSpoon and NeverMeltIce are really easy to get and early accessible. More punch!!
• Pokemon who jump in your lap are great. You can save the game and restart until you have good EV's and/or Nature.
• Early-ish obtainable in the game. I really started breeding and using mine after I had gotten the Ice Badge (6th Gym).

CON:

• It probably has the most annoying sound effect when it enters the battle. Use it too much and you get headaches. You have been warned!
• It's a bitch to breed. Smoochum can't breed so you have to level it to 30 to get a Jynx. Then you have to be careful not to let overleveling by the Daycare Lady overwrite your Nasty Plot move. Also you have to pair it with a Ditto or a Humanshape Type which makes producing eggs slower than putting two of the same Pokemon together.
• It's also a bitch to train EV's. I did it at Pyrous Mountain for Sp. Atk which took a lot of swapping out.
• It's really fragile. Jynx is the queen of one shotting things. Weak to Ice or Psychic? One Shot! Low Sp. Def? One Shot! But it is also the queen of getting one shotted. Almost anything kills it in one hit. The point is not getting that hit, but that's your job.
• Sucker Punch.
• If you encounter a Porkeman with Sucker Punch, the lame thing to do is restart fight and hope AI does something else, which will work eventually. The cool thing to do is own it with Lovely Kiss.
• Accuracy can cause your Jynx to fail sometimes. Frost Breath has a 90% hit rate and Lovely Kiss has a 75% one.
• Sturdy + Physical Attack move.
• Jynx has bad Abilities. I have Forewarn on mine but it hasn't been all that useful. Just hope it points out Sucker Punches!!

Conclussion:

It's Pros outway it's Cons enormously. The worst part about it is building it. The breeding and EV training process took a tad longer than it did my other Pokemon. The other Con's I've listed are in my experience really situational and rare. The sucky ability doesn't take away the fact that his Pokemon is the Queen Sweeper One Shotter of d00000M. For those that like a good Sweeper on their team, try out some Jynx!

Other members of my team:

Edited June 26, 2015 by Joltz

[alaneapen]

I have a Jynx with Dry Skin but never got around to breeding Nasty plot on it. It is quite good but it needs that boosting move.

[Lamona]

First things first, welcome to the community. Have fun and stay in here... forever.

Jynx is pretty much the same like Cryogonal, both are fragile when it comes to physical contact although their above average special defense can help it to defend themselves against special attacks.

Of course, if used appropriately, it can show a lot of potential.

[Joltz]

Thanks for the welcome!

There's a big difference to Cryogonal and Jynx in terms of versatility though. And you are absolutely right that it takes some getting used to handling a fragile Pokemon.

It is a shame that Gardevoir and Alakazam seem to be the go-to Psychic Types for most Reborn Players. Some even use Reiniclus in a Trick Room team. But I believe Jynx is right next to Alakazam when you decide which Psychic Sweeper you want to have.

[dondon151]

Jynx is great; her problem is that some of her key moves require breeding or holding off evolution or waiting for TMs whereas Alakazam and Gardevoir learn all of their essential moves via level up.

[CainReborn]

I like jynx quite a but, however I haven't used one in this game, Other games I've used it and it truly can wreck teams. I might raise one in this soon, but I'l see. I like my team even though it contains a few lesser used mons. As for jynx's moveset, while other pokemon can get it's moves easier, jyznx is still a good mon to use and catch imo.

[Joltz]

Jynx is great; her problem is that some of her key moves require breeding or holding off evolution or waiting for TMs whereas Alakazam and Gardevoir learn all of their essential moves via level up.

Hmm I think it's a different story with Gardevoir and Alakazam. If I had an Alakazam, I wouldn't want to rely solely on it's level up moves. I want Focus Blast, Energy Ball, Shadow Ball on them. Sadly, I have yet to encounter these TM's (in episode 15). Which makes Alakazam kinda bad in coverage with only Grass Knot as a good TM for coverage or having to get lucky with Hidden Power. Jynx on the other hand relies on Frost Breath only as a TM which you get rather early in the game.

So I'd say holding off evolution to swap out your Pokemon and level it a bit is kinda boring work I agree. If I had an Alakazam, I would already by checking the forums how to get some of these good moves on it by diving in other episodes and getting the TM's there. I have no experience with that, but that already seems like more work to me than breeding for one move and power leveling it to 38 at least (which you would have to do anyway to your Abra when you finally get it much later at 7th street).

Gardevoir is another story, and I have to totally agree with you argument for this Pokemon. It covers 3 types by it's level up move pool and doesn't require TM's or breeding to be very useful. I would breed one for strong IV's anyway but that's less of a hassle to do than IV's AND a move like you do on a Jynx. It just covers different types. If your team could use Psychic / Grass / Fairy, Gardevoir is the right pokemon for you. If you team could use Psychic / Ice / Setup with Nasty Plot in the team, Jynx is the right Pokemon for the team.

[dondon151]

It used to be that Alakazam had coverage in Shadow Ball before the TM was changed to Shadow Claw. Regardless; the beauty of set-up sweeping (especially on a Pokemon such as Alakazam who has a huge spatk stat) is that he doesn't really need coverage moves. Alakazam can set up on basically any special attacker and sweep providing the opponent doesn't have any dark types.

Jynx doesn't have quite the easy set-up since Nasty Plot doesn't boost her spdef and her HP is abysmal. Lovely Kiss buys at least a turn of setup 50% of the time (75% accurate * 66% 2 or 3 turns sleep), which isn't really reliable.

[Joltz]

So it's the same. Jynx has a 50% chance to set up (if needed) and Alakazam also has a 50% chance to set up (how many special attackers do you meet in Reborn?) and has less coverage (unless you dive in other episodes) so more need to set up.

Not saying Jynx is the better Pokemon. They're just different. Just as good. Alakazam should not be the obvious choice over Jynx. Some teams or play styles might call for one and some might call for the other.

[dondon151]

So it's the same. Jynx has a 50% chance to set up (if needed) and Alakazam also has a 50% chance to set up (how many special attackers do you meet in Reborn?) and has less coverage (unless you dive in other episodes) so more need to set up.

That's not really the same. Jynx has a 50% chance to set up on anyone whereas Alakazam has 100% chance to set up on half of the opponents. It's not like the decision of whether the opponent relies on hitting from the special side is random. It's pretty obvious that most Pokemon do better from one side or the other, and when the stat distribution is ambiguous, an opponent Pokemon's moveset is never random.

Alakazam is faster, so it's not as likely to be occasionally outsped by fast opponents. It's also more likely to sweep an opponent without set-up because of higher spatk. Against opponents that require set-up, Alakazam has a pretty guaranteed win condition given one prerequisite (that the opponent lead with or send out early a special attacker) whereas Jynx has to gamble with her poor durability in order to set up.

Alakazam also really doesn't need breeding or TMs to function near peak, since CM + Psychic covers 90% of what it has to face. If it cares about getting walled by a dark type, Charge Beam - which is guaranteed very early on - is a solution. Jynx, on the other hand, desperately needs NP bred in order to have sweeping capability.

Edited June 29, 2015 by dondon151

[Joltz]

I can see your point. In my experience I didn't need to use NP every fight. It just one shots stuff just the way it is. And of course I don't set it up against every opponent. I really needed it against SwagSire from Terra because of it's hax stats. And yes I needed the 50% luck there.

Obviously Alakazam has the more popular pull, and that always has a very good reason. I guess I'll wait for the game to open up the Saphira battle to open up to reclaim on Jynx popularity!

[Vinny]

Pure Psychic > Ice/Psychic

That little type called "Ice" does make a lot of people turn their back at Jynx, since it essentialy gives her one extra resistance, nullifies the fighting resistance, and an extra 3 weakness. Yikes.

Also, compared to Alakazam, it actually has 10 less physical defense. The f***.

Still, if it fits your team better than Alakazam (Or other psychic types, for that matter), do it. Winning with your favorite pokes > Powering through the game imo.

Obviously Alakazam has the more popular pull, and that always has a very good reason. I guess I'll wait for the game to open up the Saphira battle to open up to reclaim on Jynx popularity!

I'll be waiting~

p.s. Vinny loves ice types so I like Jynx too :3