Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Eh... Fern is a character with literally zero development who has 0 reason to hate the player other than that he does... so He's just kinda poorly written imo. Keep in mind it is hardly a bad character archetype, it is just one that is hard as hell to utilize well. It's got a razor thin edge you have to balance on and it is easy to go off the deep end in either direction. It's easy to screw up and handle poorly. ((not to mention... it is all to easy to follow that trope to the grave and down to the letter. I've seen it too many times where they don't innovate at all or even try to add their own spin.)) It is how one writes it that dictates this things. And well, imo i is one of the harder things to pull off and have it be MEANINGFUL. That is the biggest thing... it is usually some throw away trait etc... that is why they don't tend to be interesting. ((also a Heel Face Turn would be used to refer to both instances Dobbs. Since it is the time where a character finally decides to take a path or direction. It can b for the good, or for the worse. Heck it can be for the good jsut for them to have the door slammed in their face anyway.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted July 21, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted July 21, 2015 Huh, I need to brush up on my tropes. I'd always assumed through context that Heel-face was bad to good and Face-Heel was good to bad. But yeah. I see what you mean, it's a matter of innovation and execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Oh it might be, but I am used to it meaning both XD. EDIT: you;d be right but got them backwards XD. Heel-Face is good to evil, Face Heel- is Evil to Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 What I hear is, you seem to have preferred the self-made man rather than the upstart kid. If that was the deciding factor, I've actually been criticized in my early writing because of the "upstart" deal. And if I remember correctly, there is already a well-off character. EDIT: Also Felix was only able to outshine his old man because his old man was decommissioned by the Porygon creation incident. Him possessing 2 hands gives him a one-off automatically. Actually, what it really came down to in that regard was the matter of thinking which character would be better suited to what I have planned to throw at everyone at certain points. Felix basically got in because I felt his skill sets and general nature would provide a bigger advantage to the player party as a whole in various situations... since I do intend to be keep the power levels of the antagonizing force the same as it was planned to be before the debacle (which we will not bring up or speak of, lols) and me getting a tad red in the face and yelling. Well, that and the fact that it's already been decided the antagonists will have a vast number of resoruces at their command, both technologically advanced and otherwise so yeah... the self made thing didn't really have much to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted July 21, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yeah I reasoned "They're facing you, nothing to hide, coming closer towards you." for Face and "Walking/Running away" for Heel. Anyway just brushed up and indeed i was right. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeelFaceTurn http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FaceHeelTurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiss13 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm kinda curious, Strat, but what about Yuzuki made her a good fit for the RP? She does seem relatively like kind of an oddball out of the group… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm kinda curious, Strat, but what about Yuzuki made her a good fit for the RP? She does seem relatively like kind of an oddball out of the group… http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheQuietOne you seemed to fit this mold pretty damn well in regards to personality. Figured you might as well serve as the character who will be able to deliver the messages that will be hard to swallow/ force people to accept the weight of the situation when hell is going on and there's denial all around. See also: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheReasonYouSuckSpeech http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BewareTheQuietOnes To be honest, one of the major characters, Valeria, probably would've done just a fine job of it herself, especially the TRYS Speech... but never hurts to have back ups. That and the fact that coming from yours it would actually carry more weight because... well, that woman doesn't really qualify as being what one would think of as "quiet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I love how Hiss is asking this question when my character exists. I am pretty sure she is way more of an oddball XD, but maybe that is me I dunno. Can;t say why Strat picked who why cause I don't know lol. It kinda makes me a bit curious as to why Johanna made the cut... other than just being straight up out there. She is pretty different from the other characters in that she has a strong code of honor ((more than not using Dark Types, or Dark Types moves... this is just an outward expression to make it clear from me my intent, but it is really just a leg off how much she dislikes underhandedness. It makes it apparent basically.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiss13 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheQuietOne you seemed to fit this mold pretty damn well in regards to personality. Figured you might as well serve as the character who will be able to deliver the messages that will be hard to swallow/ force people to accept the weight of the situation when hell is going on and there's denial all around. See also: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheReasonYouSuckSpeech http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BewareTheQuietOnes To be honest, one of the major characters, Valeria, probably would've done just a fine job of it herself, especially the TRYS Speech... but never hurts to have back ups. That and the fact that coming from yours it would actually carry more weight because... well, that woman doesn't really qualify as being what one would think of as "quiet" Fair enough. Thanks for the answer~ That's quite the role she's been put in...a sort of reality check character... I love how Hiss is asking this question when my character exists. I am pretty sure she is way more of an oddball XD, but maybe that is me I dunno. Can;t say why Strat picked who why cause I don't know lol. Heh...Fair enough. All our characters are relative oddballs. Though, I kinda meant it in a way that she was an oddball in that she was the least odd out of the characters, based on what I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hey sometimes being so not odd, makes you way more odd than anyone else. It's funny how it works lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted July 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm kinda curious, Strat, but what about Yuzuki made her a good fit for the RP? She does seem relatively like kind of an oddball out of the group… Strat has a weakness for Kuuderes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Strat has a weakness for Kuuderes Eh... es true. My little Valeria is gonna be more like fire though (Basically the opposite of Kuudere, pretty much warm and kind untill you give her a reason to start unleashing the raw and unbridled fury of hell fire upon thine soul), so I actually kinda needed someone who could be the ice... since Leon technically can't do it either since it'll be dependent on a completely situational trigger for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 inb4 Joey hits on Yuuki without realizing The thought certainly crossed my mind... I think the only one he might stay away from is Johanna because that Farfetch'd might stab him to death. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted July 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted July 22, 2015 The thought certainly crossed my mind... I think the only one he might stay away from is Johanna because that Farfetch'd might stab him to death. xD What makes you think Nikki won't either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 What makes you think Nikki won't either? Because she doesn't have a Farfetch'd. But I don't like that Electrode either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 What makes you think Nikki won't either? Because Nikki strikes me more as the type to take the path of least resistance and effort by simply electrocuting his ass to get him out of her way. #Efficiency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted July 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted July 22, 2015 Because Nikki strikes me more as the type to take the path of least resistance and effort by simply electrocuting his ass to get him out of her way. #Efficiency Strictly speaking, it's far more efficient to stab. Less energy spent, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 but...attempting to stab leaves the possibility of a struggle occurring and him getting ahold of the weapon... plus, not like you're the one doing the actual electrocuting XD And it's harder to trace through forensics than a stabbing would be (Unless you're the only one with a mon that has an electric move, that is...) Ah...look at this. I haven't even started the IC yet, and I'm already talking about manners of killing without detection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiss13 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Strat has a weakness for Kuuderes Huh. My first thought when I finished was that I created the perfect midpoint between Kuudere and Dandere... I am perfectly fine with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Geez all these people with their brutal personalities. Even Felix likes "fixing" things. May be a machinist, but still "fixing" can be a very broad term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurorix Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Geez all these people with their brutal personalities. Even Felix likes "fixing" things. May be a machinist, but still "fixing" can be a very broad term. Well you know what they say, if things are good in small amounts then they must be great taken to the extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Well you know what they say, if things are good in small amounts then they must be great taken to the extreme hey now, kin slayer... let's not get too far ahead... you'll get your chance to slake that thirst for blood (Nah, you probably won't too much... but who knows...) Anyways, I'll fix up the character post to hold the sheets and after that I'll get us set up with the chapter 1 IC expect it sometime tonight or tomorrow morning EDIT: PC profiles are now in place on post #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Man Strat actually did a way better job of sorting out the seven of us who made it than I originally thought. I decided to dissect the apps of my fellow RP'ers to understand what I may expect from them, and there were some shocking similarities. This is what I like about Strat. He gave us a whopping medley of different characters, but at the same time, none of them are even worlds apart on every difference. He delivered on the balance part. 3 females, 4 males. Approximately even, given the odd dividend. However, I'd like to dig a bit deeper. In balance, Strat made our partners about even on power, with 5 "powerhouses" as someone earlier said, and two others I wouldn't exactly label as "powerhouses". Also with Mega Evolving partners, he kept that at a balance too with 4 at Mega Evolving potential and 3 with no such potential. Moving on to characters, almost all of them are excellent battlers, but that's where it ends. Joey and Nikki ad hoc most of their stuff. Johanna, Yuuki, Felix, and Yuzuki all normally think stuff through. Not sure about Lloyd. And that's just battling style and thinking. As much as Hukuna won't like it, Johanna is the senpai of the group, and everyone else is young to middle-young on that range. Everyone obviously possessed one inner demon that clashed into their personality. Some characters are almost painfully the same, but in niche ways different, such as the cases of Felix/Yuuki, and Lloyd/Yuzuki. And that's just what I noticed on the surface. But if you tore apart everyone's app and dig a little bit deeper, you'll understand what I mean, and Strat's original intention Edited July 22, 2015 by Darvan Korematsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Keep in mind... in an RP, Farfetch'd is no weaker than any other mon, nor is Electrode. So, considering it as such is well... an error. Just keep that in mind when facing mons that one would normally consider weak or terrible. They aren't so much in an RP environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted July 22, 2015 Support Squad Share Posted July 22, 2015 Especially when one can become a cannonball at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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