[OOC] Pokemon: Sins of Avalon

[Chim]

if only Ishmael didn't go into a rage Xp I was hoping for some teamwork so Aethor could capitalise on an attack but with Ishmael wrapped around the beast it'd get hit by anything electrical Aethor could use.

That's how I made Ishmael and also the reason I was waiting for someone else to make the first move. Totally didn't rush mine

[Darvan Korematsu]

So guess Dobbs Huku and Murd are all caught up Strat. Guess it's back to the grindstone.

[Sutoratosu]

I destroyed the grind stone long ago. there are more effective ways to sharpen and axe nowadays.

regardless, the update lives.

And yes, to those wondering... this is indeed the endgame of the fight.

The rage level is officially... over 9000

[Felicity]

I don't really know what you're asking of us here. When it comes to managing where Nikki is and being attacked I can only do so much, my last reactions have been "Evade/ Distract and then evade" with no variation because I can do naught else. Aethor is high in the sky, nimble as can be so even if the beast somehow managed to sweep the beam around after hitting Ishmael, with Aethors speed which is double volcanions at base, There's no way he's hitting Aethor but neither can aethor hit volcanion with even a thunder wave due to ishmael.

So what do I do but recycle the phrase "Nikki scrambled out of the way"?

[Sutoratosu]

I don't really know what you're asking of us here. When it comes to managing where Nikki is and being attacked I can only do so much, my last reactions have been "Evade/ Distract and then evade" with no variation because I can do naught else. Aethor is high in the sky, nimble as can be so even if the beast somehow managed to sweep the beam around after hitting Ishmael, with Aethors speed which is double volcanions at base, There's no way he's hitting Aethor but neither can aethor hit volcanion with even a thunder wave due to ishmael.

So what do I do but recycle the phrase "Nikki scrambled out of the way"?

Sorry if it worked out that you feel that way, but you don't always have to respond to an update immediately you know.

Sometimes if you don't know what to do, waiting and seeing what a few of the other players involve do might open up something you didn't think of before. I've done it myself countless times over several RPs, it's actually more of a habit by now for me in fact. And this is meant to be a group attack session to interrupt the firing of hyper beam and finally KO the thing, afterall. Sometimes it's better to just take a second and see how things develop a bit than try to rush in immediately. For example, Aethor is in the air right? perfect opportunity to strike with a thunder... just not right at this very second in time.

point is, you don't always have to rush in at the sound of the starting gun. being patient can have it's ample benefits just as much as being prompt can.

[Felicity]

Sorry if it worked out that you feel that way, but you don't always have to respond to an update immediately you know.

Sometimes if you don't know what to do, waiting and seeing what a few of the other players involve do might open up something you didn't think of before. I've done it myself countless times over several RPs, it's actually more of a habit by now for me in fact. And this is meant to be a group attack session to interrupt the firing of hyper beam and finally KO the thing, afterall. Sometimes it's better to just take a second and see how things develop a bit than try to rush in immediately. For example, Aethor is in the air right? perfect opportunity to strike with a thunder... just not right at this very second in time.

point is, you don't always have to rush in at the sound of the starting gun. being patient can have it's ample benefits just as much as being prompt can.

Which is what I did last round of posts but the main difference I see between posting first and allowing Chim and Huk to post is whether or not I can use Twave, should Ishmael gtfo.

[Sutoratosu]

Which is what I did last round of posts but the main difference I see between posting first and allowing Chim and Huk to post is whether or not I can use Twave, should Ishmael gtfo.

another alternative to waiting is to get a bit creative...

who says Aethor can't simply cloak his body with T-wave and fall like onto the thing's back or head or neck and roll away like a ball dropped from a high story? or hell, why not try the cannonball trick from the camerupt again, just combine it with T-wave? Volcanion is obviously preoccupied, and if the T-wave is localized instead of launched fully in some ray of electric discharge, yeah, it'll paralyze whatever part is struck, but will be unlikely to be extensive enough to conduct into ishmael unless it directly hit him too...

and an electrode would definitely be fast enough to pull it off, seeing as... you've already done something akin to it before...

so yeah, there are options here...

[Felicity]

I suppose you're right. The issue with creativity is that I still don't know where my limits lie, what could be considered too far or indeed seeing quite what I could do.

[Sutoratosu]

I'm pretty liberal with my limits here. Basically, anything goes so long as it doesn't rely on BS physics and crap being pulled out of someone's ass, is so horribly broken to the point where it's obvious it's not being done to be creative, but rather to simply ensure that you win the fight, or it isn't used as a pure Deus Ex Machinima.

Like I said, pretty liberal. I'm basically willing to allow alot of things so long as abuse does not occur with them. If anyone ever has any questions, well... OOCs exist for a reason. And they can always bring it by me in a PM if they don't want the idea out in the open for any reason.

The point is, if in doubt, have no fear about talking it out.

EDIT: Strange though... I thought I had talked about the limits in this earlier on when we were first starting... apparently I was mistaken and it was instead for Auroral starfall that I did... and when that died from computer failure, must've slipped my mind... oh well...

EDIT2: A new tab will be added to the OP about this topic.

EDIT 3: A new tab has been finished: problem in question= rectified

[Darvan Korematsu]

Yeah Dobby, sometimes it pays to use the old noggin sometimes. Granted I've been told to write as much as possible whenever I can to prevent my skills from deteriorating, but I've got a killer idea to destroy that friggin Volcanion that could incorporate all of us. You may have heard about combination attacks in the anime, but what about this?

My Porygon-Z uses Tri-Attack on the Volcanion. The Electrode uses Thunder on top in tandem with Tri-Attack's Yellow Orb. The Red Orb could represent a Moonblast (a long shot but doable). The White Orb could represent the Farfetch'd. It would be cloaked in the other 2 orbs, and go flying like a missle toward the Volcanion. The others would have to keep it at bay in order to pull it off, but sometimes the thought counts.

What do you guys think?

[Sutoratosu]

Yeah Dobby, sometimes it pays to use the old noggin sometimes. Granted I've been told to write as much as possible whenever I can to prevent my skills from deteriorating, but I've got a killer idea to destroy that friggin Volcanion that could incorporate all of us. You may have heard about combination attacks in the anime, but what about this?

My Porygon-Z uses Tri-Attack on the Volcanion. The Electrode uses Thunder on top in tandem with Tri-Attack's Yellow Orb. The Red Orb could represent a Moonblast (a long shot but doable). The White Orb could represent the Farfetch'd. It would be cloaked in the other 2 orbs, and go flying like a missle toward the Volcanion. The others would have to keep it at bay in order to pull it off, but sometimes the thought counts.

What do you guys think?

You honestly lost me after the second half of that, so....

yeah... gonna need some better explanation of it before I can even decide if this would be plausible to allow... seems abit convoluted at the moment, to be honest

The part about possibly combining thunder and tri attack I can understand... ((Cause I've done it before...)) but after that... you just lost me as to how it would make sense.

[Darvan Korematsu]

Well what sucks about this is that we don't have a Fire or Ice move to take advantage of the idea (minus Pory-Z's Ice Beam) Tri-Attack is simply just 3 different colored orbs hitting the opponent. Again we don't really know what those orbs are made of, except of energy relating to the status moves it can possibly inflict.

The Electrode is the easiest to combine with the Tri-Attack.

Yellow Orb --> Paralysis. Close to electricity.

Red Orb we can't easily do. Unless we can derive a "pink" attack of sorts to put the energy into.

I intended to make the Tri-Attack a missile. Farfetch'd serves as the closest thing I can derive for the white-ish hue. I get it causes freeze, but you said we can get creative as long as it's within plausible limits.

Or maybe it goes down like this. Felix calls Pory to charge a Tri-Attack. It starts charging and maybe the Red Orb starts absorbing some of the fire around it as energy. Felix gets wild idea for the Electrode to maybe use Thunder on the yellow orb. Say it works. If the other 2 start working, Felix gets idea for a Moonblast (a pure pinkish white attack) or to send Farfetch'd in there toward the Volcanion with the charged and altered Tri-Attack. Or better yet, get Yuzuki to figure it out. He's technically the smartest out of everyone there.

Hope it's a little easier to digest.

[Sutoratosu]

I'm getting it now... but I'm afraid it's still too convoluted.

You could honestly cause just as much((Or rather, just as effective)) theoretical damage with far less need for perfect coordination ((which would honestly bog us down a bunch more than likely)) by simply having Pory act alone and charging up Discharge before charging up Tri Attack... channel the electricity, and fire... yeah. it's basically a normal/ elec type combo with a pretty high chance to paralyze...

I still have no idea how the farfetch'd part would work without causing at least some heavy damage to the 'missile' itself, and the moonblast for fire substitute is too much of a stretch... and I still can't see how a normal type could really be subbed for ice...

so yeah... dis just too convoluted bro.

[Hiss13]

I remember you saying that the ship was extremely durable right?

[Sutoratosu]

The overall materials comprising the frame and structure is.

It's not indestructible, mind you, but it would take a lot of force to breach the hull and sink it... far more than a normal ship

[Hiss13]

Actually, scratch my original idea…

Strat, would it be believable for me to say that there are small pieces of rubble on the ground Yuzuki can pick up and throw?

[Sutoratosu]

pieces of charred plank and the like. The deck is fairly messed up and all from the hellish fires and fighting and cases of attempted murder.

that's about all there would likely be though.

[Felicity]

@Daarv, that whole combo shtick wouldn't work with our characters anyway. How the hell would we coordinate it on top of organising ideal conditions for its use? Plus the volcanion isn't lkely to jst sit there and take it, it will launch some countermeasures.

[Darvan Korematsu]

Heh. Who said anything about coordination? If anyone remembers the following, you'll know what I mean

Edited September 2, 2015 by Darvan Korematsu

[Felicity]

Without some sense of coordination or understanding such a tactic falls under "Pulled it out of your ass" territory. Even ghostbusters foreshadowed crossing the streams before they pulled that out to be the infamous eleventh hour power that it is.

[Sutoratosu]

Heh. Who said anything about coordination? If anyone remembers the following, you'll know what I mean

Look, I'm really gonna have to go ahead and VETO this both for the reasons I've already pointed out with it being needlessly complex and what dobby expanded upon about the coordination issue, which would honestly use up time and energy that could probably be used elsewhere given that again...the proposed plan is too complex in the context of the alternatives and specifics of the situation.

And that particular youtube video honestly isn't a very strong compelling argument either.

[Darvan Korematsu]

I will however counter with this if we aren't sticking to only game logic all the way. I am also willing to drop that idea if it's so impossible. If a friggin Ice Beam can be used to freeze over the battlefield, (watch the anime, it has happened multiple times), maybe there's something we can do instead to extinguish it. For instance, maybe strike the ceiling and bring it crashing down on the thing?

EDIT: The boat is kinda messed up as it is. It's a little more plausible than the Tri-attack.

Also forgive me if the battle is taking place outside.

Edited September 2, 2015 by Darvan Korematsu

[Hiss13]

pieces of charred plank and the like. The deck is fairly messed up and all from the hellish fires and fighting and cases of attempted murder.

that's about all there would likely be though.

That's all I needed~

[Darvan Korematsu]

Hmm...I know it may also be a stretch, but what if we tried to reroute the Hyper Beam by somehow "moving" the Pokemon? I know it's a little unlikely, but it looks like this Hyper Beam is the generic orally applied HB, like it usually is in the anime. If we could either get it to turn around, or move it's face to fire in another direction, it could give us the opening our guys and gals would need to subdue it. Moving it may be out of the question since the beast weighs about as much as all of our Pokemom combined. But there may be something....

I think I'm on to something if Hiss goes through with what I think he's gonna do

Edited September 3, 2015 by Darvan Korematsu

[Aurorix]

Murderer Lloyd

The attack did as was needed. The storm of embers parted as the telekinetic blades sliced through, creating a space barely large enough for the two to survive with just a bit of charring. The Moth was not so lucky, unfortunately. With the brunt of it's mind being focused on controlling the inferno it was causing, there was no time for it to notice the barrage before the first one hit. The second made it through as well, but as weakened as it was with such poor physical defenses, it had wised up from the pain. It smoothly flew to the side as the third and final crescent kept soaring right on past it, into the skies and disappearing.

And it's eyes turned back to Llyod... it's whole body in panic as it looked not at him, but at something behind the killer and his accomplice. something that terrified the moth...

Even if he looked back, he wouldn't have been able to grasp what in the nine hells the demon wads scared of...the area was cold though. Too cold considering the heat and flames of the battle raging on... but that didn't matter. Right now he had opportunity and means... and he had motive. there it was, the Volcarona, hovering right there in front of him, too frightened to do much other than quiver...

One good shot... that was all it would take.

I'm pretty sure whats it's inferring but I just want to make sure (I'd rather ask a stupid question then cause a misunderstanding (Or maybe it isn't a stupid question, who knows?)). My next attack may be lethal if I so choose, or will it just knock him out?