zimvader42 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 You know... the thing with the other Eeveelutions that aren't really yet... is it is super hard to think of an actual decent BST spread for them lol. Any idea on the others there Baz? I've got a few floatin' around if you need any. ((I'm not so good at designing looks myself doe...)) You mean... steel, rock, ground....all of those? I'll give it a try for the lols I guess. Ti...taneon? (steel) --> 65HP - 110Att - 130Def - 60SpA - 95SpD - 65Spe Crusteon? (rock) --> 110HP - 95Att - 130Def - 65SpA - 65SpD - 60Spe Terreon? (ground) --> 130HP - 110Att - 65Def - 60SpA - 65SpD - 95Spe Cloudeon? lol (flying) --> 60HP - 95Att - 65Def - 110SpA - 65SpD - 130Spe Eeveeon? pff (normal) --> 130HP - 110Att - 95Def - 95SpA - 60SpD - 65Spe Braw...leon? (fighting) --> 95HP - 130Att - 65Def - 60SpA - 65SpD - 110Spe Dunno those would be the ones I'd do. Except the names I guess lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Chaos Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Or can also be seen as a better Flareon. EDIT: so Tomas told you about our Toxeon huh? XD had to happen to avoid confusion, I guess. Different mons, but each with their own niche could be said. we get a toxion in 7 :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Honestly... I did lol, though I'd call the Flying one Ailereon after ailerons and the aileron roll. It is a play on the small flaps or flying surfaces on the wings of small aircraft that move up and down to control how the plane moves, and a reference to a particular maneuver that is consider the basis of most advanced maneuver's used in flying. I think it is a fitting name for the Eeveelution that is first learning to fly no? I also I opted to go with putting the 95 in SpDef rather than Atk.... with the shallow level-up Pools of Eeveelutions... having mixed ones is super hard. I guess tutors could alleviate that problem some but eh... I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 You mean... steel, rock, ground....all of those? I'll give it a try for the lols I guess. Ti...taneon? (steel) --> 65HP - 110Att - 130Def - 60SpA - 95SpD - 65Spe Crusteon? (rock) --> 110HP - 95Att - 130Def - 65SpA - 65SpD - 60Spe Terreon? (ground) --> 130HP - 110Att - 65Def - 60SpA - 65SpD - 95Spe Cloudeon? lol (flying) --> 60HP - 95Att - 65Def - 110SpA - 65SpD - 130Spe Eeveeon? pff (normal) --> 130HP - 110Att - 95Def - 95SpA - 60SpD - 65Spe Braw...leon? (fighting) --> 95HP - 130Att - 65Def - 60SpA - 65SpD - 110Spe Dunno those would be the ones I'd do. Except the names I guess lol I like the name Brawleon o-o and mabe some of those should be defensive or sp defensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Personally with the Steel one ((which I would call Ferreon Ferrous... name for iron + eon or Machineon, which is machination + eon It could justify getting Shift Gear and Gear Grind that way too with that name if it'd be more machine based etc... lol.)) with 130 HP/ 65 Atk/110 Def/ 60 SpAtk/ 95 SpDef/60 Speed But that's just me lol. For the Flying one I actually am pretty sure I got a movepool worked up for it so that's interesting XD. Something I whipped up quick. Ailereon Type: Flying BST: HP 65/ Atk 60/ Def 65/ SpAtk 110/ SpDef 95/ 130 SpdAbilities: Early Bird Hidden: Gale Wings or Aerilate? I think Aerilate is more Appropriate due to Sylveon getting Pixilate. It get Hyper Voice so that;s good I suppose lol. I really like the idea of Prio Feather Dance Shinangians though XD.Level Up: Start Moves: Helping Hand, Tackle, Tail Whip5, Sand Attack9, Gust13, Quick Attack17, Twister20, Air Cutter25, Mirror Move29, Feather Dance33, Defog37, Air Slash41, Last Resort45, Hurricane TM/HM 4-Calm Mind 5-Roar 6-Toxic 10-Hidden Power 15-Hyper Beam 17-Protect 18-Rain Dance 19-Roost 20-Safeguard 21-Frustration 27-Return 28-Dig 30-Shadow Ball 32-Double Team 40-Aerial Ace 42-Facade 44-Rest 45-Attract 48-Round 49-Echoed Voice 58-Sky Drop 62-Acrobatics 67-Retaliate 68-Giga Impact 87-Swagger 88-Sleep Talk 89-U-Turn 90-Substitute 95-Snarl 00-Confide Just Fly for Hms really. Tutor Moves: Sky Attack, Last Resort, Hyper Voice, Bounce, Tailwind, Heat Wave, Snore, Helping Hand, Heal Bell, Endeavor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 You know... the thing with the other Eeveelutions that aren't really yet... is it is super hard to think of an actual decent BST spread for them lol. Any idea on the others there Baz? I've got a few floatin' around if you need any. ((I'm not so good at designing looks myself doe...)) I've got a few ideas in mind, but its always nice to hear other people's ideas too. You mean... steel, rock, ground....all of those? I'll give it a try for the lols I guess. Ti...taneon? (steel) --> 65HP - 110Att - 130Def - 60SpA - 95SpD - 65Spe Crusteon? (rock) --> 110HP - 95Att - 130Def - 65SpA - 65SpD - 60Spe Terreon? (ground) --> 130HP - 110Att - 65Def - 60SpA - 65SpD - 95Spe Cloudeon? lol (flying) --> 60HP - 95Att - 65Def - 110SpA - 65SpD - 130Spe Eeveeon? pff (normal) --> 130HP - 110Att - 95Def - 95SpA - 60SpD - 65Spe Braw...leon? (fighting) --> 95HP - 130Att - 65Def - 60SpA - 65SpD - 110Spe Dunno those would be the ones I'd do. Except the names I guess lol I'll keep these in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 A few more for ya. Sedieon Type: RockBST 110 HP/ 95 Atk/ 130 Def/ 65 SpAtk/ 60 SpDef/ 65 SpdAbilities: Sturdy Hidden: Sand StreamMoves Start: Helping Hand, Tackle, Tail Whip05, Sand Attack09, Rock Throw13, Quick Attack17, Wide Guard20, Bulldoze25, Rock Slide29, Rock Polish33, Stealth Rock37, Sandstorm41, Last Resort45, Head Smash ((Note... I gave it this because it would feel sorta shitty imo if pretty much all the Rock Type moves it got were all learned via TM. that is the only reason this is here really.)) Tutor Snore, Helping Hand, Iron Tail, Aqua Tail, Heal Bell, Stealth Rock, Last Resort, Knock Off, Iron Defense, Block, Covet, Hyper Voice. Notes: Really not sure on the Hidden on this little guy... It feels kinda weird giving him a Weather Ability, I guess I could opt for Solid Rock... but that SpDef doesn't really look like Solid Rock can help it. Sandstream at least helps to mitigate it's poor def Stat... but even then I dunno lol. It also suffers like a lot of Rock Types from "All my good moves are TMs or can be gotten elsewhere" syndrome a bit. Machineon ((pronounced Mack-a-neon... though I realize every is probably jsut going to say mah-sheen-eon... It supposed to be pun but it's sorta lost I guess XD.)) Type: SteelBST 130 HP/ 65 Atk/ 110 Def/ 60 SpAtk/ 95 SpDef/ 65 SpdAbilities: Light Metal Hidden: HeatproofMoves Start: Helping Hand, Tackle, Tail Whip05, Sand Attack09, Metal Claw13, Quick Attack17, Bite20, Magnet Bomb25, Gyro Ball29, Shift Gear33, Spikes37, Iron Head41, Last Resort45, Metal Burst Tutor Iron Tail, Snore, Iron Defense, Magnet Rise, Shock Wave, Recycle, Iron Head, Aqua Tail, Last Resort, Hyper Voice, Foul Play ((pun on Machination's true meaning. It's basically foul play.)), Heal Bell, Helping Hand. Covet. Superpower, Hyper Voice Notes: Metal Burst is probably the strangest move as the Final Slot, but it's pretty fitting with the low Attack Stat of this little Steel Guy. He pretty damn bulky on both sides, though it is clear which is his weaker one. Eeveelutions tend to air towards SpDef though so I thought it best to aim him more in a Defensive direction. I honestly went with Heatproof since it is a somewhat lesser used ability as it is only on Bronzong. Filter would be better I guess... but then it would feel to much like Mega Aggron imo... and that would just make it shine even less. It's main ability I really didn't know what to do with. It just doesn't have a lot of things I can work with can feel good about giving it ability-wise. I might just switch the base Ability to Sturdy much like the Rock one. (that's why it isn't Sturdy currently.))Brawleon ((I actually really like the name there Zim lol.)) Type: FightingBST 95 HP/ 130 Atk/ 65 Def/ 60 SpAtk/ 65 SpDef/ 110 SpdAbilities: Steadfast Hidden: ScrappyMoves Start: Helping Hand, Tackle, Tail Whip05, Sand Attack09, Double Kick13, Quick Attack17, Bite20, Low Sweep25, Low Kick29, Bulk Up33, Quick Guard37, Final Gambit41, Last Resort45, Close Combat/HJK Tutor Last Resort, Snore, Iron Tail, Zen Headbutt, Low Kick, Superpower, Heal Bell, Aqua Tail, Bounce, Helping Hand, Covet, Hyper Voice. Notes: As well... Eeveelutions are four legged creatures this one was pretty tough. Couldn't use anything but kicks really. Wasn't sure whether to go with HJK or Close Combat either. The Hidden Ability was a pretty easy choice though for a fighting type... but that's imo I guess XD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I HAD SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT THE CONTENT OF THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN ME AND RAINBOW DASH DIDN'T HAVE TO BE MADE PUBLIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Going to be honest... I voted Flying cause actually kinda like the one I whipped up XD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimvader42 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 In moments like these, with so many types available and so many possibilities, I'm glad to be able to do eeveelutions myself XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Voted Steel because it was the most voted: I want the winner to be a type we are not making in Se7en... So yay for Steel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted July 27, 2015 Veterans Share Posted July 27, 2015 Tomas you just confirmed more eeveelutions zzz Voted Flying cuz it'd be interesting :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Just a note from le~Bazarino~ Since there are 6 main stats and a convenient number of 18 types, every stat will have 3 types as its #1 stat. For clarity, just look below... HP: Vaporeon, ???, ??? Atk: Flareon, Toxeon, ??? Def: Leafeon, ???, ??? SpA: Espeon, Glaceon, Shenreon SpD: Umbreon, Sylveon, ??? Spd: Jolteon, Zephreon, ??? Speculations, speculations... yes I have everything planned out Edited July 28, 2015 by Bazaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Guesses: Personal picks: What I would do. HP: Steel and Normal. Both types that enjoy being generally bulky. Having a High Health Base really helps their defensive capabilities and allows them to take a more utility role which both the types are pretty well suited for. Steel Types tend to get access to a lot of hazards so the bulk would be greatly appreciated as it allows them to set them up multiple times in a match and more easily take on both spectrum of attack. Normal Types tend to really enjoy being support mons as while they might not have resists, they have no exploitable weakness other than Fighting. ((it's a crap one to have, but oh well.)) so HP is probably also the preferred Def stat. Atk: Fighting, Fighting is the most physical type and it really likes to flaunt it's power. Fighting Types are also know to generally have an average of over 100 attack and are one of few types that has an average stat over 100. Fighting Type exploit that well too, being able to really bash a foe's head in. Def: Rock and Bug, Really, Rock is just due to it normal tendency to be high defense, but it goes in tandem with Rock being able to increase their SpDef naturally through Sandstorm. Bug's also... weirdly tend to have a higher than average Def stat as it is their highest average stat at 70.08 included all Bug type mons ((as a lot of the cacoons have the high defs.)). It barely manages to eek out past attack by 3 points, but every other stat is a near 20 difference. Removing babies Attack is higher now by two points, but Defense is still a high up there stat for buggles. Bugs aren't the best candidate for stomaching Phys moves, but they aren't too horrid either. They resist both Fight and Ground two suuuuper commonly Phys attacking types. The third type they resist is grass, which is usually Special in Nature but is alos a pretty uncommon attacking option outside of STAB. Basically I think the Bug Eon could be pretty good at soaking phys hits as a bug type, it jsut faces" Stealth Rocks are the pits" syndrome. They rain all over the poor bug's day. SpDef: Ground, While it might seem an odd choice at first... think about it. Ground has a weaknesses to a majority of Special attacking types The high SpDef helps mitigate it somewhat but gives Groundeon a bit of stability. Ice, Grass and Water have some Phys variants too, but are usually heavily based in Special. Anyway, when you think SpDef Ground Type... think Hippowdon. Spe: Flying and Ghost, The two are both very offensive types in Ghost and Flying. Both would love the speed to outspeed threats to their types as there are a shitload of common one for these birds. Knock Off for Ghost and Rock Type moves for Flying. As such they need to be fast as possible to make sure they can do something with their somewhat omnipresent weaknesses in the meta. I Imagine both will also be glass canno-esque mons, but I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Just a note from le~Bazarino~ Since there are 6 main stats and a convenient number of 18 types, every stat will have 3 types as its #1 stat. For clarity, just look below... HP: Vaporeon, ???, ??? Atk: Flareon, Toxeon, ??? Def: Leafeon, ???, ??? SpA: Espeon, Glaceon, Shenreon SpD: Umbreon, Sylveon, ??? Spd: Jolteon, ???, ??? Speculations, speculations... yes I have everything planned out I'd suggest flying for speed..or fighting. Steel or rock for def P.S. Fulmine, you make all dem complicated eevee names that I can't even pronounce xD that said... lets also start suggesting possible names for types I think we all agree Brawleon is pro I also think Cloudeon is proper I wouldn't wanna have Ferreon and Terreon so I'd change one of those Suggesting Spectreon for ghost Simpeon for normal? (from simple) swarmeon for bug..lol ok thats weird noclue for rock... Edited July 27, 2015 by Masquerain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cepheus Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 for Names: Normal = Evoleon (Evolution + L[eon] --- Leon from Lion = the "King of Animals" therefore is Evoleon the "King of Evolution") Steel = Mecheon (from Mech = robotic features) /// Alloyeon (from metal alloys) Ground = Gaeon (from Gaea - old writing for Gaia = Earth) Ghost = Spectreon (I agree here with Masquerain) Fighting = Brawleon (at this time it seems to be established) Rock = Obsideon (from Obsidian) Flying = Venteon (from lat. Ventus = Wind) Bug = Insecteon (obviously from Insect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Ground - Terreon, Tremeon/Tremoreon, Seismeon, Tecteon, Magneon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimvader42 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Ground > Terreon: Terra + eon. I don't like much the other possible names, except maybe Magneon, but magneon reminds me of that one brand of ice cream, so no-no. Bug > Insecteon: there aren't many choices here. I mean the body parts of a bug are too complicated to fuse with -eon to form an eevee name. Ghost > Spectreon: anything with shadow on it would be too reminescent of Umbreon, and everything else just sounds bad (the classic "aethereon", that most fans love for some reason, sucks ass imo...). Rock > Crusteon or Obsideon (good one Ceph lol). Rock is a boring type, so dunno, not much creativity can be going on for it. Fighting > Brawleon: so it seems I set this name in stone somehow huh? well good for me I guess Steel > Titaneon: like, every other metal sounds bad with -eon, and machines and gears are as bad (things like machineon and geareon for example, that I've heard in forums and DA, are quite terrible sounding at least to me). Flying > Cloudeon or Windeon: cloudeon is silly sounding, I admit it, but windeon is the only next best thing I can think of. Normal > Eeveeon: why not "normaleon", "baseon" or something else you might ask? well normal can be a lots of things, but among them, keep in mind it is the type of the one and only, eevee. If a normal eeveelution were to happen, what best than naming it directly upon its famous prevo? The rest of types are covered I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Ground > Terreon: Terra + eon. I don't like much the other possible names, except maybe Magneon, but magneon reminds me of that one brand of ice cream, so no-no. Bug > Insecteon: there aren't many choices here. I mean the body parts of a bug are too complicated to fuse with -eon to form an eevee name. Ghost > Spectreon: anything with shadow on it would be too reminescent of Umbreon, and everything else just sounds bad (the classic "aethereon", that most fans love for some reason, sucks ass imo...). Rock > Crusteon or Obsideon (good one Ceph lol). Rock is a boring type, so dunno, not much creativity can be going on for it. Fighting > Brawleon: so it seems I set this name in stone somehow huh? well good for me I guess Steel > Titaneon: like, every other metal sounds bad with -eon, and machines and gears are as bad (things like machineon and geareon for example, that I've heard in forums and DA, are quite terrible sounding at least to me). Flying > Cloudeon or Windeon: cloudeon is silly sounding, I admit it, but windeon is the only next best thing I can think of. Normal > Eeveeon: why not "normaleon", "baseon" or something else you might ask? well normal can be a lots of things, but among them, keep in mind it is the type of the one and only, eevee. If a normal eeveelution were to happen, what best than naming it directly upon its famous prevo? The rest of types are covered I think... Id agree with the normal one if it wasnt for the fact that eevee was named after the fact it has tremendous potential for evolution..and a normal eeveelution would no longer fit that concept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimvader42 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Id agree with the normal one if it wasnt for the fact that eevee was named after the fact it has tremendous potential for evolution..and a normal eeveelution would no longer fit that concept Protean and a LARGE TM movepool to exploit it? Abilities I would give it would be Adaptability for huge return damage, and protean as hidden, for the effect already mentioned. That's just me at least. My first prototype normal eeveelution was called baseon (basic+eon), but I can't think of anything that sounds better than eeveeon yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Chaos Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) i voted for bug, cuz i wanna see an eevee with multiple legs :S aracheon would be cool name (arachnid+eevee) Edited July 27, 2015 by Red_Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 25 votes later, the majority speaks! Poll will be closed until after the next release, so keep posted~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) ... Double posting is bad, m'kay? CAP #3 Name: Zephreon Height: 1.0 m Weight: 25.3 kg (60 BP) Type: Flying Stats: 110/60/65/95/65/130 Abilities: Speed Boost, (HA) Aerilate LV Up: 1 - Tackle, Tail Whip, Helping Hand 5 - Sand Attack 9 - Gust 13 - Quick Attack 17 - Bite 20 - Air Cutter 25 - Twister 29 - Featherdance 33 - Defog 37 - Air Slash 41 - Last Resort 45 - Hurricane TM/HM: Roar, Toxic, Hidden Power, Sunny Day, Hyper Beam, Protect, Rain Dance, Roost, Frustration, Return, Dig, Shadow Ball, Double Team, Aerial Ace, Facade, Rest, Attract, Round, Echoed Voice, Sky Drop, Acrobatics, Retaliate, Giga Impact, Swagger, Sleep Talk, U-turn, Substitute, Secret Power, Confide, Fly Tutor: Snore, Covet, Iron Tail, Heat Wave, Last Resort, Hyper Voice, Sky Attack, Helping Hand, Heal Bell, Tailwind, Icy Wind Breeding/Pre-Evo Captivate, Charm, Curse, Detect, Endure, Fake Tears, Flail, Natural Gift, Stored Power, Synchronoise, Tickle, Wish, Yawn Growl, Baby-doll Eyes, Swift, Refresh, Take Down, Charm, Baton Pass, Double-edge, Trump Card Analysis: Zephreon is a strange mix of a support, cleric, and a special attacking pivot, all of which it can do to an extent. Its Speed is top-tier, allowing it to use Defog, Heal Bell, Wish, or any of its offensive moves first. Its high HP can make it tricky to take down, and allows it to pass massive Wishes to its allies. With a decent Special movepool, Zephreon can also serve as a sweeper or revenge killer, but faced competition with many other Flying types. If nothing else, it can Baton Pass its Speed Boost to an ally. Pros: - 130 Speed is extremely good, even if Zephreon's options are somewhat limited. - Zephreon has a lot of usable moves in its small movepool, such as Hyper Voice, Shadow Ball, and Heat Wave offensively, and Wish, Heal Bell, and Defog defensively. - Two great abilities in Speed Boost and Aerilate. Cons: - 95 Special Attack is okay, but it could be better. - 65 in both defenses for a support isn't the best thing. - A lack of boosting moves make offensive sets lacking. - Stealth Rocks. Counters and Checks: - Electric and Rock types in general are the bane of Zephreon, as it has nothing to hit those types hard enough. Jolteon has enough Special Defense to take anything Zephreon throws at if Zephreon loses the speedtie, and doesn't take a Thunderbolt too well. Even Electrode should be mentioned simply for outspeeding it. Rhyperior, Rampardos, Archeops, Probopass, Magneton... the list goes on. - Stealth Rocks chunk 25% of Zephreon's huge HP stat. Predict its Defog to get a free turn. - Paralyzing Zephreon takes away its biggest stat. Usage: RU - Fast Cleric Support Leftovers Aerilate/Speed Boost - Hyper Voice/U-turn/Icy Wind - Defog - Wish/Roost - Protect/Heal Bell 248 HP, 8 SpA/SpD, 252 Spd, Timid (+Spd, -Atk), Jolly (+Spd, -Atk) - Choice Specs Choice Specs Aerilate - Hyper Voice - Heat Wave - Hidden Power Ground/Hidden Power Grass - Shadow Ball/Icy Wind 252 SpA, 4 SpD, 252 Spd, Timid (+Spd, -Atk) - Baton Pass Leftovers Speed Boost - Baton Pass - Protect - Wish/Substitute - Hurricane 248 HP, 8 SpA/SpD, 252 Spd, Timid (+Spd, -Atk) - Rain Support Damp Rock Speed Boost - Rain Dance - Hurricane - Wish/Roost/Protect - Protect/Baton Pass/U-turn 248 HP, 8 SpA, 252 Spd, Timid (+Spd, -Atk) W.I.P. Edited August 14, 2015 by Bazaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Baz, you'd probably want to go with around RU for this one. It has the weird issue that well... Offensively it is really outclassed by Tornadus-Incarnate ((and by extension Tornadus-T)), and Moltres both of which are UU and have similarish stats offensively. While Zephreon is faster, it hits muuuuuuch less hard. ((it does have a more reliable Flying Move in Aerilate Hyper Voice, BUT, it still lacks a bit of oomph compared to Hurricane. Defensively.... theres a butt ton of Defoggers. It take me awhile to figure out what's it's got over all fo them. It does have hgue speed allowing it to outspeed and pretty much get it off first. It big HP stat allows it to decently pass wishes. But as soon as they find out your a Wish Set... you're probably never getting off another one. Zephreon's SpAtk uninvested is going to tickle.... and it might not even get close to doing good damage to something it is SE on. It's not like Vaporeon who threatens Burns with it's Scald ((and has a better SpAtk Stat to boot.)) It got a high amount of competition from lower tiered mons... therefore at a glance I'd say it's RU material. It seems right to me. Also... Cloud Nine actually has some anti-Synergy for Zephreon. It doesn't allow it to use Hurricane under the Rain. It is a weird awkward spot where it could be a Rain Setter for it's team, but would have to go with Aerliate, which means Hyper Voice is a better option. It's a small thing, but it is there so I think I should mention it. Otherwise... Cloud Nine isn't a very appealing option imo... it doesn't really threaten a lot of mons that enjoy the benefits of weather other than Steel Types that might try to hide under rain with it's access to Heat Wave. It's... jsut kinda an awkward ability on it that doesn't help nearly as much as one would think lol. It could be a Sun Buster as a lot of Chlorophyll mons are well... they are all actually grass type pretty sure lol.... but Sun teams were rare even when 5th Gen was a thing. I dunno... it be worth exploring, but Zephreon is going to have trouble with most weather mons as it's SpAtk is barely passable so Neutral hits aren't going to exactly knock things over. It's... strange. EDIT: Torn-I and Moltres are BL2 by the way. This is why I saying that Zephreon should probably be under them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 I appreciate the extra analysis Huk, I was too tired to think much at the time of writing. I went ahead and updated a few things for Zephreon (Speed Boost > Cloud Nine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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