Visual Novels

[Godot]

Are they video games? or are they animated mangas? Feel free to discuss them here.

[FraRPetO]

Although it is mostly just text, I think the visual novels make the player feel involved enough to make it a video game. But not all, in my opinion.

[Godot]

Depends on the game. Some VNs absolutely will not progress or will progress differently depending on the player's input and that within itself gives it enough reason to be considered a game.

[Maelstrom]

They seem like one of those old 'choose your own adventure' books. key word being books and novel. Some might have puzzles in it I guess, but for the most part, the 'gameplay' style is multiple choice test. For the most part, I don't consider them as games. They're books with more re-read value than normal.

[Felicity]

Depends on the game. Some VNs absolutely will not progress or will progress differently depending on the player's input and that within itself gives it enough reason to be considered a game.

Debatable. Some may say that a game must have a win or lose state as opposed to actual progression. Either way, some VNs do meet this criteria with various "Bad endings". F/SN does this every so often as your decision leads to shirous death etc

EDIT: This is actually a relevant point (Yes I reread it >.<) In that progression is debatable with the various routes some VNs employ. You can progress the game. Just not the way you necessarily want

[Godot]

We use the term visual novel, rather than video game book adventure so we can sound sophisticated. Ie; justice league and x-men are comic books. But V for Vendetta and Watchmen are Graphic Novels.

[Twin Judge of Gemini]

Debatable. Some may say that a game must have a win or lose state as opposed to actual progression. Either way, some VNs do meet this criteria with various "Bad endings". F/SN does this every so often as your decision leads to shirous death etc

EDIT: This is actually a relevant point (Yes I reread it >.<) In that progression is debatable with the various routes some VNs employ. You can progress the game. Just not the way you necessarily want

ya mean the one where Saber abandon Shirou in Kotomine's church?

Yeah, we need to do things to get that bad end :3

[Godot]

You don't need a "win or lose" condition for it to be a game. A game is where something give the viewer the power of choice and complete immersion. Something is made a game if what you do is meaningful. Another example of a game without a win or lose condition is Animal Crossing or Minecraft. Those games are just plain and simple fun. There is no actual goal you are working towards. Sure in MC you can die, but the goal of the games is to present the player the power of choice. That is what makes those games, games. It is what makes Visual Novels games as well.

[Peepeepoopoo]

Am I the only person that saves at every decision point and then goes back to that save to proceed to choose every other decision?

[Godot]

Pretty sure most people do that XD

I did it in Blaz Blue's story mode to get everyone's three endings.

[Acedia]

Yep, visual novels are a sub-genre of adventure games. They're pretty much the next gen version of the old text adventures.

[Peepeepoopoo]

You mean those old DOS games?

[Godot]

Like Robin Hood or Camelot, yes. Another popular example is Sam and Max or Monkey Island.

[Nhadala]

Has anybody played "Maji de Watashi no Koishinasai!"?

Can you tell me if it has an actual good plot/story/etc... or if its just comedy?

Thanks.

[Peepeepoopoo]

Has anybody played "Maji de Watashi no Koishinasai!"?

Can you tell me if it has an actual good plot/story/etc... or if its just comedy?

Thanks.

I found it pretty funny.

[Nhadala]

I found it pretty funny.

So its just pure comedy? No story/character development, etc...?

[Twin Judge of Gemini]

So its just pure comedy? No story/character development, etc...?

this is pretty late, but....

MajiKoi got a lot of interesting character, especially with the new sequel/plus side like Majikoi S or Majikoi A, alongside a likeable main character, who isn't your generic VN MC and all, and like he said, funny as hell