Might Gai Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 catch a prankster perish song murkrow ( impossible to lose against any boss ) it can help with charlotte with prankster rain dance perish song mean look and tailwind it's a beast ( and focus band for lucky 1hp ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 You do realize that you just signed Murkrow's sentence to death being axed in next release right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsundereQueenZephi Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 See - there are alternate routes for passing such difficulty. I don't find this topic is needed, as you don't really offer much of a contribution - you have given something that worked for you and your play style. Garchomp and Arceus can be overcome - it isn't that hard if you think outside the box, and perhaps let people solve their issues for themselves. Defeating them is more significant that way and doesn't cheapen the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Might Gai Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 See - there are alternate routes for passing such difficulty. I don't find this topic is needed, as you don't really offer much of a contribution - you have given something that worked for you and your play style. Garchomp and Arceus can be overcome - it isn't that hard if you think outside the box, and perhaps let people solve their issues for themselves. Defeating them is more significant that way and doesn't cheapen the experience. yeah i know but when you restart and find yourself beaten 10 times you can skip it's an option but i did beat them on my way the first time and now in my ''gotta catch em all'' challenge i didn't care about my way to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmysticgohanx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I beat both pretty easily. The first was with cofag's power split an will-o-wisp, the second was with Sharpedo's screech and blaziken's blaze kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peepeepoopoo Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Thanks for the tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Might Gai Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Thanks for the tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monochrome_Complex Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Garchomp kicked my butt but that's because he had an insane type advantage I had nothing to answer for. This time I actually beat Arceus though via toxic and patience, plus the new field making it slightly easier. Didn't even need to heal! But alas, got no experience from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 yeah i know but when you restart and find yourself beaten 10 times you can skip it's an option but i did beat them on my way the first time and now in my ''gotta catch em all'' challenge i didn't care about my way to win "I don't care if the victory is completely hollow and devoid of any feeling of accomplishment, I just wanna win!" But hey, that's fine. More power to ya, friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masquerain Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 There's also a perish song igglybuff right at the start of the game but wellp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There was only one Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Mhmmm Perish song why not why not why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMage Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Arceus is beatable even without Perish Song. I lead with my Dragalge called Redeyes and made him use Toxic on the Dittoceus. When Elias used Full Heal, I just used a Dragon Pulse and the field boosted the attack's power. My Dragalge mainly tanked the hits from Dittoceus and kept using Toxic until Elias didn't have anymore full heals left. After that, I brought out my Arcanine called Lionqueen (I know both of their names are not original lol) and spammed Close Combat to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Might Gai Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 There's also a perish song igglybuff right at the start of the game but wellp yeah but no prankster "I don't care if the victory is completely hollow and devoid of any feeling of accomplishment, I just wanna win!" But hey, that's fine. More power to ya, friend! well i did beat them in my old file but now i just wanna catch em all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm planning on using Destiny Bond Phantump w/ Focus Sash to win. As for Arceus, Prankster Meowstic will be Godly here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odybld Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Last time I beat Arceus, to make sure my usual strategy wasn't toast, I went: Prankster Murkrow Tailwind, Mismagius outspeeding and getting two Mystical Fires to get it to SpAtt -2, and then Vanilluxe with Mirror Coat. I cheesed Garchomp with some Intimidate + Babydolleyes drops but it still was a tough twelveletterexpletitive. Some cheese is necesarry, but I prefer the thrill over just getting of a Curse or Destiny Bond or Perish Song etc. Sidenote: Mismagius is crafty as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMage Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Last time I beat Arceus, to make sure my usual strategy wasn't toast, I went: Prankster Murkrow Tailwind, Mismagius outspeeding and getting two Mystical Fires to get it to SpAtt -2, and then Vanilluxe with Mirror Coat. I cheesed Garchomp with some Intimidate + Babydolleyes drops but it still was a tough twelveletterexpletitive. Some cheese is necesarry, but I prefer the thrill over just getting of a Curse or Destiny Bond or Perish Song etc. Sidenote: Mismagius is crafty as hell. Well, what else do you expect of witches other than being crafty ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monochrome_Complex Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Arceus is beatable even without Perish Song. I lead with my Dragalge called Redeyes and made him use Toxic on the Dittoceus. When Elias used Full Heal, I just used a Dragon Pulse and the field boosted the attack's power. My Dragalge mainly tanked the hits from Dittoceus and kept using Toxic until Elias didn't have anymore full heals left. After that, I brought out my Arcanine called Lionqueen (I know both of their names are not original lol) and spammed Close Combat to death. Trick with Arceus is finding a way to outspeed/incapacitating it(relying on status make sure you know about the 2 full heals), and/or having something that can can a hit while either setting up buffs or debuffing Arceus so that he actually feels whatever hurts you're dealing to him. Again, the new field makes him easier since it increases the chances Judgement won't one shot you by being not very effective. It actually works against him more than it does for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Mirror Coat Gothitelle/Magnezone on an appropriate move works sometimes. You just got to survive one hit, which is, well, possible unless you're really squishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazySheriff Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Both of them can be beaten with many different strategies, from Pokemon with good abilities (stuff like Prankster,Static and similar stuff that put an effect on them, etc), Pokemon that can take hits without Focus Sash( Torterra for example vs Garchomp), Pokemon that can setup with stuff like bulk up, and all the way to Pokemon that can just stall the crap out of the opponent till the Toxic or something kills them ( Swalot toxic+ Sceptile detect ftw ). You just need to think a bit outside of the box and think some other way to beat them then you may usually do. For a casual player like me to see how useful its to use status effect was like a miracle. Now I always have a Pokemon just for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Or there's Blaziken. In mono fire there's no prankster, destiny bond, perish song. So I just tried with the pure strength of fire. Blaziken survived the first it thanks to ineffective judgment, then hi jump kicked it twice (attacked first on the second turn with speed boost). Bye Arceus ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasKiss Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I always used Curse for these tough fights but I guess Prankster Perish Song works too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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