BlackMage Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 So, I am just considering playing Reborn all over again and I am stuck choosing between Torchic, Mudkip and Turtwig. Also, how do I get Ditto early in the factory? I don't want to wait till 7th Street for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peepeepoopoo Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 SB Adamant Torchic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRunner Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 When you're at Blacksteam factory, if you put Makuhita under the cage with Ditto, then it breaks out and joins you. I think that you need to have finished the Day Care sidequest in order to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGJRA Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) To get the Ditto you have to complete the daycare side quest in Obsidia/Coral wards and then in the factory you put Makuhita underneath Ditto. As for the starter it's up to you, but Turtwig > Mudkip > Torchic for difficulty. Edited July 31, 2015 by BIGJRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taska Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Turtwig because I like Torterra more than overrated starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlaceon Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Torterra. Because Torterra wins everything. (Also because is you have any pre ep15 game then you can get Mudkip) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMage Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 I chose Mudkip because I don't prefer overrated pokemon like Blaziken and I never used Mudkip before. Thanks for the advice and also the Ditto answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmysticgohanx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) You guys are using overrated wrong, the word y'all are looking for is overpowered. Anyway in terms of what's better than what it's Blaziken (uber) >>> Swampert (uu without mega) >>>>>> Torterra (nu) Edited July 31, 2015 by xmysticgohanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ludo Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 You guys are using overrated wrong, the word y'all are looking for is overpowered. Anyway in terms of what's better than what it's Blaziken (uber) >>> Swampert (uu without mega) >>>>>> Torterra (nu) Torterra might not be competitively viable compared to a certain kung fu chicken with Speed Boost, but for a casual play of Reborn (or however casual Reborn can be), its still very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 You guys are using overrated wrong, the word y'all are looking for is overpowered. Anyway in terms of what's better than what it's Blaziken (uber) >>> Swampert (uu without mega) >>>>>> Torterra (nu) This guy's right. To call Blaziken "overrated" would imply that it isn't as strong as people believe it to be, which it completely is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlaceon Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 This guy's right. To call Blaziken "overrated" would imply that it isn't as strong as people believe it to be, which it completely is. Blaziken is overused. Overpowered. Overplayed. It's kinda annoying to see everywhere. I think that's what he meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostelle Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Blaziken is overused. Overpowered. Overplayed. It's kinda annoying to see everywhere. I think that's what he meant You can't blame people or call it annoying that people like using the superior starter, if it's a favored choice it's just how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlaceon Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 You can't blame people or call it annoying that people like using the superior starter, if it's a favored choice it's just how it is. I'm not saying I blame anyone. It's just that things like this get pretty old when overused. If you like Blaziken then by all means use it, but I wouldn't call it a superior starter. Not in a playthrough of a game. In playthroughs the starter is only as good as the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead account Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Blaziken used to be my favourite starter. It's sad to see just how broken and overused it became. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) Blaziken used to be my favourite starter. It's sad to see just how broken and overused it became. Why should that have any influence on whether or not it's your favorite starter? Blaziken has been my favorite starter since Ruby and Sapphire first came out, and receiving Speed Boost didn't change that. Saying "I used to like this until it became popular, now I don't like it anymore" is hipster thinking, bruh Edited August 1, 2015 by Foamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monochrome_Complex Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Competitive use =/= ingame use though. A lot of competitively great pokemon might stink in-game for Reborn because you either get them too late or can't access the moves/techs that makes them competitively viable in the first place. They're two different ball-games. TBH I thought Blaziken was pretty underwhelming in Emerald Version because a lot of gyms put him at a disadvantage compared to the other starters. Then again he didn't have speed boost or close combat back then, but he was quite disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 TBH I thought Blaziken was pretty underwhelming in Emerald Version because a lot of gyms put him at a disadvantage compared to the other starters. Then again he didn't have speed boost or close combat back then, but he was quite disappointing. Blaziken was underwhelming in Gen 3 for a variety of reasons. There was no physical/special split, so one of its STABs was physical while the other was special. It lacked a good Fighting STAB, it had no way to boost its Speed outside of Endure + Salac Berry, and it didn't have the bulk to serve any purpose other than a sweeper, wallbreaker, or revenge killer (all of which are hampered by the aforementioned inability to raise its Speed). You meant High Jump Kick, right? Blaziken could never learn Close Combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMage Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 Blaziken was underwhelming in Gen 3 for a variety of reasons. There was no physical/special split, so one of its STABs was physical while the other was special. It lacked a good Fighting STAB, it had no way to boost its Speed outside of Endure + Salac Berry, and it didn't have the bulk to serve any purpose other than a sweeper, wallbreaker, or revenge killer (all of which are hampered by the aforementioned inability to raise its Speed). You meant High Jump Kick, right? Blaziken could never learn Close Combat. Well, despite all of that, gen 3 was relatively easy. I swept through all the gyms with my Blaziken (but Norman was a bit diffucult). I think it had a modest nature and thats why Blaze Kick seemed pretty powerful to me back then. Mind you, Ruby was my first pokegame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon116 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Swampert is the start of Gen 3 starters. Sweeps gyms 1, 3, 4, 6 (ice beam/rock move), and 7 (surf). Struggles against fighting gym, but mud shot is nice, and against normal (slaking be tanking), and water. However at gym 8 you get a kyogre or groudon so it's irrelevant. Sceptile didn't have any hope until the Gen 4 move split gave it a purpose to it's high attack and speed besides seed stalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monochrome_Complex Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I Well, despite all of that, gen 3 was relatively easy. I swept through all the gyms with my Blaziken (but Norman was a bit diffucult). I think it had a modest nature and thats why Blaze Kick seemed pretty powerful to me back then. Mind you, Ruby was my first pokegame. I think Emerald by far is the hardest mainline pokemon game. Flannery and her overheat was like 12 kinds of BS. But that's my fault for not choosing mudkip I guess lol. The battle frontier's pyramid and palace and whatnot were really challenging too. Going into the game blind and it's certainly not what I'd call easy, unless again you're abusing revives and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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